BlueLobster   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-09-07 16:01:59

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Originally posted by Fido
Try & differentiate b/w what people say and what they do especially when there is a vast difference . Everybody can claim love for their motherland , but what they do is what counts !
Difference b/w Rakesh Sharma & Sunita Williams - well one is Indian and the other American - one s credited India with his achievement and the other has not.



ok, let's try this once more.

Sunita Williams is a female astronaut who has achieved a lot at a young age, broken records, so on and so forth. Do you agree? If not, check this out
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/226239


Despite all the great progress and strides (that you claim have somehow come organically from India), India has only sent ONE person into space so far. Rakesh Sharma. That too aboard a Soviet shuttle. Do you agree? If not, read here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rakesh_Sharma


Sunita's Dad was born in India. Growing up, she would've definitely had some (or more) exposure to Indian culture. Quoting from Wikipedia, "Among the personal items Williams took with her to the International Space Station (ISS) are a copy of the Bhagavad Gita, a small figurine of Ganesha and some samosas.[3]" There's definitely SOME association to India here. You with me still? (And hopefully you don't think she took all that stuff so that later on, she would visit India and get a great reception. Stop reading further if you think that's the case.) Read more here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunita_Williams


Sunita visits India. Gets a warm reception in Gujarat. She attends the IAC in Hyderabad where she one of the first person she meets is Rakesh Sharma. She also meets and speaks to other VERY smart Indians. They don't seem to have a problem with her. The Indian PM has some great things to say about her and invites her to Delhi. With me still? Read
http://www.indiaenews.com/technology/20070928/72528.htm
AND
http://www.freshnews.in/sunita-williams-a-source-of-inspiration-for-indian-women-manmohan-singh-15614

So exactly WHAT is your problem? Can you put some bullets down on what the people in Gujarat, Rakesh Sharma, Other Indian scientists, PM of India etc etc did wrong?? And what in your opinion they should do instead of
1) Taking the opportunity to present her as a role model that would be an inspiration to Indian women?
2) Using the fact that she is keen to associate herself the India to further the positive perception of Indians in the minds non-Indians?


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BlueLobster   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-09-07 16:04:08

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Originally posted by Fido

Difference b/w Rakesh Sharma & Sunita Williams - well one is Indian and the other American - one s credited India with his achievement and the other has not.



Umm...Rakesh Sharma is one of the people who "meeted and greeted" :) her in hyderabad. He obviously does not share your view.


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BlueLobster   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-09-07 16:09:13

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Originally posted by Gapodi

They have certainly played a role in India's recent economic growth but it is NOT the only factor. Besides as I mentioned earlier it is an opportunistic role. After all NRIs did not appear on horizon in 91 or afterwards....Indians have been migrating for centuries and certainly after 1947 as well.



We're saying the same thing, I never claimed that it is the only factor.

Regarding the "opportunistic role" comment, I hate to break it to you but THE VAST MAJORITY of Americans in America, Canadians in Canada and Indians in India are in business for personal gain. NRIs are no different. It’s the nature of business and money.

On the 3rd point, will you agree that there has been a significant spike in the numbers of Indians going overseas since the 90s? And not only in numbers, but the education and influence level as well?


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RBO   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-09-07 16:11:06

Very Good reply BlueLobster,

Keep it up, "Isko bolte hey jaisa gaal vaisa tamacha"..............:clap:

"Buri nazarwale tera muh kala"..........:cheers:



BlueLobster   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-09-07 16:13:57

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Originally posted by Fido

I don't understand - a person doesnt look Indian , ...




That one remark says a LOT


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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-09-07 16:29:51

Quote:
Originally posted by BlueLobster

Sunita's Dad was born in India. Growing up, she would've definitely had some (or more) exposure to Indian culture. Quoting from Wikipedia, "Among the personal items Williams took with her to the International Space Station (ISS) are a copy of the Bhagavad Gita, a small figurine of Ganesha and some samosas.[3]" There's definitely SOME association to India here.



-- I disagree. There is an association with the Hinduism here. Nothing India specific. Reading Gita, praying to God Ganesh and eating Samosas do not make you Indian neither connects you to India.

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Sunita visits India. Gets a warm reception in Gujarat. She attends the IAC in Hyderabad where she one of the first person she meets is Rakesh Sharma. She also meets and speaks to other VERY smart Indians. They don't seem to have a problem with her.



-- I do not think anybody (including CD posters) has any problem with her. The OP and many others feel that Indians are overdoing this for her. I think what Fido wants to say is that the govt is overdoing things. The guests like Rakesh Sharma and other scientists might have been invited to greet her and they did their job. They certainly would not have come to greet her otherwise.



BlueLobster   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-09-07 16:35:23

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Originally posted by desi in ottawa

People who have average IQ can read thru her. She was there to grab attention. Why she is not in Slovania? Why her supproters on CD dont want to answer this? Dont tell me that she will be visiting Slovania next month, as if u know her itenerary.

DIO



Maybe its the "Slo" in Slovenia? Get it? :D

Jokes apart, you seem pretty obsessed with what the Sloveniens do or don't. Let me ask you a question. If she visited Slovenia and got a rousing reception there as well, would you then be ok with this whole thing?

Wait! Before you answer, the question was to make a point. Bringing up Slovenia so many times indicates a complex that starts with the letter I. It does not matter whether she goes to Slovenia or how the Sloveniens view her. We're talking about India here.


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