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indian59   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-01-10 20:17:55

Having figured prominently in the inaugural edition, the Pakistan players were absent from the second season in in South Africa, after their government did not allow them to travel to India - where the tournament was originally to be held - for security reasons.
I think if they can pull their players sighting security reason we can also do the same.
But it is not fair for the franchises to ask initially to include Pakistani players in the auction and later ignore them completely. If this was going to be the decision of all franchises then there was no need to include these players in the auction.



Vandematram   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-01-10 21:17:20

The real undertone in the NON SELECTION of Pakistan cricketers into the Indian Premier League is the first sign of the revolt of Indian people after the November 26, 2009 terrorist attack on Republic Of India.

The IPL teams are owned by corporates.

Other than the team of Calcutta and also that of Mission Girl(ex girlfriend of Nusli Wadia's son and great grandson of Mohammad Ali Jinnah) all the other teams are owned by Corporate India.

To name a few:

1.Mumbai: Mrs.Nita Ambani(Reliance),

2.Chennai: Mr.Srinivasan(India Cements),

3.Delhi: GMR group of Andhra Pradesh

4.Rajasthan: Shilpa Shetty


and the list goes on.

The corporate India does not need to be secular but address the real feelings of the people.

This also shows the ascendance of the corporate India over the political parties of India.

This is most important shift in power equation in India. The Indian people needs jobs and this is from corporate India.

Hence the corporate India will reflect the feelings of the people of India.

This is the first backlash and this will trigger more to come.

Don't believe me wait what will happen with Amar Singh now out of SP.

The real game of corporate India through the eyes of the Ambani brothers will start.


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Vandematram   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-01-10 22:23:26

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/ipl/top-stories/Inside-story-All-IPL-teams-agreed-to-shun-Pak-players/articleshow/5482239.cms

Inside story: All IPL teams agreed to shun Pak players
Indranil Basu, TNN, 21 January 2010, 12:04am
NEW DELHI: What was suspected after Tuesday’s auction of the Indian Premier League (IPL) is now confirmed - there was indeed a consensus among the Day in Pics: January 20


Underlying this consensus were ambiguous signals from officialdom. Union sports minister MS Gill went on record on Wednesday insisting that neither his ministry nor the government had in any way nudged IPL teams to treat Pakistani players as untouchables. However, sources in the Indian cricket board (BCCI) gave TOI details of what transpired in the run-up to the auction, which suggest a more nuanced reality.

According to the sources, the BCCI initially told the franchisees that they could bid for Pakistani players and treat them just like cricketers from any other part of the world. Around the middle of December, the board also assured the teams that it would chip in with help for visas and other diplomatic clearances from the government.

However, when team owners asked the board \"what guarantee will the franchisees have?\", the board spoke to some government officials in the last week of December and reverted with the message that the government - understandably - couldn’t give \"any guarantee\". The prospects of possible terror attacks clearly contributed to this message.

Hence the IPL teams ignored the Pakistan players in auction as there was \"no guarantee\" from the government that these players would get visas and other clearances.

Also adding to the jitters of the IPL teams were apprehensions of possible disruption of IPL matches by parties like the Raj Thackeray-led Maharashtra Navnirman Sena (MNS) and Shiv Sena in the event of Pakistani players participating. With Mumbai slated to host a major chunk of IPL matches in the forthcoming season - including seven home matches of the Mumbai Indians in the league and some knock-out matches - this became a major concern.

In fact, team managements said they were already getting calls from Australian players asking how seriously they should treat the threat by the Shiv Sena that it would not allow Australians to play in India in retaliation for the racist attacks on Indians Down Under.

\"Security is a huge factor and it’s only the team owners who will have to take up the responsibility. BCCI is not responsible for internal security in the IPL. The board had asked the government if the Pakistanis would be safe in a place like Mumbai. The answer wasn’t too convincing with a senior state government functionary pointing out that barely a year had elapsed since the 26/11 terror attack in Mumbai,\" a BCCI insider told TOI on Wednesday.

\"There was no direction from the board. The indication from the board was that the Pakistani players are shortlisted and you guys can bid for them. But they may not be welcomed in a place like Mumbai,\" a team official added. That, it appears, was enough to spook the franchisees into steering clear of Pakistani players.

The reputation of some of the Pakistani cricketers who had participated in the first season of the IPL in 2008 didn’t help either. The Delhi Daredevils were put off by Mohd Asif’s antics, while Shahid Afridi did not have a great relationship with Deccan Chargers.

The sources also said the ‘boycott’ of Pakistani players was likely to continue for similar reasons till such time as India and Pakistan resume bilateral cricketing ties. In other words, despite the homilies often trotted out about separating sports and politics, this is one case where politics will remain a determining factor.


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DesiBabu70   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-01-10 15:35:52

I don't see what is wrong with boycotting Pakistani players.
IPL is, after all, Indian Premier League.
It is not ICC World Cup.
and IPL is not cricket so it is wrong to say that cricket is losing as a result of this.
IPL is purely an entertainment program designed to leverage the cricket madness of 1B population of India and make money for the sponsors.

also when India has been the victim of terrorism sponsored by Pakistan for over 20 years now (starting with Punjab, then Kashmir and now all over the country) and everyone keeps saying why can't India do something so now when India is doing something, why say no politics in sport, no politics in arts, no politics in trade etc.
So when they do bomb blast and shooting all over our country, then politics is ok but when it comes to sport and culture and trade we should not do politics.
Excuse me, but bomb blasts and shooting is not politics it is terrorism.
And since terrorism has no rules and no exceptions, when we respond to terrorism, we must not have any exceptions and "ifs" and "buts" either.

If India cannot or will not go to war, then other means must be adopted to counter terrorism like boycott of sports, boycott of all trade, boycott of all cultural relations.

It is not enough for us Indians to worship our Gods like Ram and Krishna, we must emulate them in action as well.
Both Ram and Krishna were avatars of Vishu, the preserver.
They were peace loving.
However, when the situation arose they did not hesitate in taking up arms and fighting for the righteous cause.

I am not saying that we should immediate declare war and drop nuclear bombs on Pakistan, but we must impose sanctions, boycotts and other kinds of punitive politices on Pakistan.

"Peace loving" has no value and no meaning if you cannot respond when needed.
Peace must be a result of your will, not a result of your cowardice.
We are seen by other nations as cowards, always turning the other cheek to let them slap us and humiliate us all over again every time.
China knows this and the US knows this.
That is why they make mockery of us by paying lip service to peace and keep selling arms to Pakistan.



Vandematram   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-01-10 18:44:25

Look who is talking.

Father in law of Dawood's son.

One mafia talking about another mafia !.

He is not able to fix matches and earn the betting bonanza.

The stove calling the pot black!.

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http://cricket.rediff.com/report/2010/jan/21/javed-miandad-interview-indian-premier-league-ipl.htm

The IPL is becoming a big mafia: Miandad
January 21, 2010 19:28 IST


\"The Indian Premier League is becoming a big mafia that wants to control world cricket; it is not only endangering the existence of the International Cricket Council [ Images ], but also the rest of the cricketing nations.

\"It is my message to all cricket boards around the world that the IPL is the biggest danger for their future; if it is not controlled timely it will engulf all boards.

\"India is trying to control the world of cricket through the IPL and wants to become a super power; India is trying it and India is doing it,\" the Pakistan cricket icon told rediff.com in an exclusive interview, shortly after the players' auction for the third edition of the IPL in Mumbai [ Images ] on Tuesday.

His reasoning is that \"a number of players have refused to play for their own countries because they can earn more money overnight than they could throughout their careers\".

Saying the players are receiving money more than they are worth, he urged the ICC [ Images ] to form rules to curb the League's expansion.

\"I can smell that everyone will have a problem in future. A time will come when there will be no player available to play for his country. Under such circumstances the ICC should form rules to control the IPL. At the moment the IPL is doing what it wants and no one is there to interfere. Time is not far when, due to the IPL, the ICC and world cricket boards will be finished.\"

Asked whether the IPL is a threat to Indian cricket itself, Miandad replied: \"Not at all; the IPL will help Indians only, but it will weaken the rest of the teams. India will get the best players of the world and weaken other teams.\"

Giving an example, he said, \"In the past India had better teams than the current Dhoni-led one, but, more often than not, they were defeated. The reason was that other teams were stronger than India. Due to the IPL, superstars like Shane Warne [ Images ] and Glenn McGrath [ Images ] retired from the Australian cricket team.

\"They could easily play for another couple of years, but rushed to the IPL, as the amount was very attractive; so when the Indian team visited Australia [ Images ], who were without senior players like Warne and McGrath, it was easy for the Indians to control the opposing team.\"

Miandad was unhappy about the power an individual player enjoys at the moment and suggested that every player should be controlled by his own cricket board.

\"Nothing should be individually done; if every individual player is allowed to make a decision, without any interference of his board, the situation would turn bad for all other boards. All boards should handle their own guys and it is unjust that every player individually negotiates his case with the IPL.

\"All the boards should discuss these issues with the IPL, otherwise their future seems dark to me. I'm surprised and astonished how people are investing and how they are going to earn money; it is commercial cricket. The ICC should watch these things and interfere before it gets too worse to be controlled,\" he said.

He was critical of the latest format of the game, saying, \"Twenty20 cricket is no cricket, but money-cricket; everybody knows that it is commercial cricket; the main cricket is moving towards destruction.\"

\"It's okay to play a match or two; that's not a problem. But if there are 40-50 matches, where will the rest of the cricket go? Clearly, it is damaging Test and One-day cricket, and the quality is going down. People have started forgetting about One-day and Test cricket. Neither the bowlers nor batsmen can learn anything here,\" he said.

Comparing the IPL with Kerry Packer's World Series Cricket, he said, \"When Kerry Packer came in, though he was doing it for a cause as his channel was ignored, it affected cricket all around the world; cricket game became mediocre. I see the same future for One-day and Test cricket due to the IPL.\"

So what does he have to say about Pakistan cricketers being snubbed by the IPL?

\"It is another issue that Pakistani players were ignored and humiliated by the Indian Premier League. I am against the existence of the IPL; this is not an issue because Pakistani players were neglected or humiliated. That decision was biased and wrong.

\"Cricket between India and Pakistan is better for relations between the two countries. Everyone says there is no politics in sport; so relations between the two countries should not come in the way of sports,\" he concluded.


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Maharaj   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-01-10 01:38:52

Media has been crying foul over this exclusion. If you read comments under the most articles then you'll find that Indian people does not want PAK players in India. Those comments are not politically corrent but does not need to be.

I was actually waiting for Harsha Bhogle's take on it. For one, I kinda had a feeling that he must be ok with the snub but at the same time he had to be politically correct.


The announcement came a day after the IPL franchises chose to ignore cricketers from Pakistan. I was looking forward to watching some fine young men in action and these cricketers have a right to feel done in. The key question, though, is: done in by whom? The franchises have a right to select the team they want, even if it is not the best possible, because they have to wear many hats. They cannot alienate fans, they don't want to create a security issue, and they do not want any more uncertainty - part of the reason some fine Australian cricketers were turned down too.

I fear these players are being done in by the cage we are imprisoned in. We live in times of violence and hatred; there are many people who seek peace but equally some who seek to deny us what we thought was given. Sport cannot exist in isolation, cannot fly free from this cage of reality. We would love the two to be separated but that has never happened. In times of peace, or relative peace, we could produce the pathbreaking tours of 2004 and 2006. Now we are all pawns in the drama our subcontinent is enacting and the cricketers are merely more visible pawns. The conspiracy that Abdul Razzaq talks about is the reality of our times. The IPL will be poorer for the absence of some extraordinarily gifted cricketers, but this is just another victory for those that infect us with hatred. To believe there is a conspiracy against cricketers from Pakistan is wrong. It is the times we live in.


http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/445330.html



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hchheda   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-01-10 12:26:12

Quote:
Originally posted by Maharaj

Media has been crying foul over this exclusion. If you read comments under the most articles then you'll find that Indian people does not want PAK players in India. Those comments are not politically corrent but does not need to be.

I was actually waiting for Harsha Bhogle's take on it. For one, I kinda had a feeling that he must be ok with the snub but at the same time he had to be politically correct.


The announcement came a day after the IPL franchises chose to ignore cricketers from Pakistan. I was looking forward to watching some fine young men in action and these cricketers have a right to feel done in. The key question, though, is: done in by whom? The franchises have a right to select the team they want, even if it is not the best possible, because they have to wear many hats. They cannot alienate fans, they don't want to create a security issue, and they do not want any more uncertainty - part of the reason some fine Australian cricketers were turned down too.

I fear these players are being done in by the cage we are imprisoned in. We live in times of violence and hatred; there are many people who seek peace but equally some who seek to deny us what we thought was given. Sport cannot exist in isolation, cannot fly free from this cage of reality. We would love the two to be separated but that has never happened. In times of peace, or relative peace, we could produce the pathbreaking tours of 2004 and 2006. Now we are all pawns in the drama our subcontinent is enacting and the cricketers are merely more visible pawns. The conspiracy that Abdul Razzaq talks about is the reality of our times. The IPL will be poorer for the absence of some extraordinarily gifted cricketers, but this is just another victory for those that infect us with hatred. To believe there is a conspiracy against cricketers from Pakistan is wrong. It is the times we live in.


http://www.cricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/445330.html





Very mature post from Harsha Bhogle (not you Maharaj..:D ) indeed.

Hiren





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