It's official - Manmohan Singh the most corrupt PM ever of India !


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BlueLobster   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-09-14 20:27:39

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Originally posted by san-hugo

Now BJ-Peons are asking for 2 years for Modi, but went impatient on a month old AAP govt. which was showing change from day 1. How biased!



Speaking for myself, the issue was never that he was not able to achieve anything in such a short time. The issue was that he quit, weaseled his way out of responsibility after taking on the mandate and showing nothing more than some theatrics. Your comparison makes no sense.

The vast majority of Indians clearly saw through this "nautanki" given the way they voted. But I guess its hard for some folks to move on.


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san-hugo   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-09-14 23:28:12

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Originally posted by BlueLobster

Quote:
Originally posted by san-hugo

Now BJ-Peons are asking for 2 years for Modi, but went impatient on a month old AAP govt. which was showing change from day 1. How biased!



Speaking for myself, the issue was never that he was not able to achieve anything in such a short time. The issue was that he quit, weaseled his way out of responsibility after taking on the mandate and showing nothing more than some theatrics. Your comparison makes no sense.

The vast majority of Indians clearly saw through this "nautanki" given the way they voted. But I guess its hard for some folks to move on.




I was talking about month one , much before AKs resignation.
In a way It was good that people were asking questions about the promises from AAP.
Too early to ask about growth, development & result oriented governance from this government I agree.
But my surprise is ( and thus comparison) that even after 100 days , there are no questions being asked on time bound promises by BJP ,such as initiative on black money, culture of corruption, women safety, shutting communal forces. Keeping silent on recent RSS and Yogi Adityanath's rants. Ministers are accused of gang rape (Nihal Chand), Also convicted ministers Amit Shah, Yedurappa are still holding leading positions, Modi keeps mum, and we are discussing MMS's silence throughout !

Janta keeping quite is Janta 's funeral. The famous Chalta hai attitude setting among masses for this govt also?? Are you also party to it BL ? I am not.



BlueLobster   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-09-14 00:13:26

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Originally posted by san-hugo

I was talking about month one , much before AKs resignation.
In a way It was good that people were asking questions about the promises from AAP.
Too early to ask about growth, development & result oriented governance from this government I agree.
But my surprise is ( and thus comparison) that even after 100 days , there are no questions being asked on time bound promises by BJP ,such as initiative on black money, culture of corruption, women safety, shutting communal forces. Keeping silent on recent RSS and Yogi Adityanath's rants. Ministers are accused of gang rape (Nihal Chand), Also convicted ministers Amit Shah, Yedurappa are still holding leading positions, Modi keeps mum, and we are discussing MMS's silence throughout !

Janta keeping quite is Janta 's funeral. The famous Chalta hai attitude setting among masses for this govt also?? Are you also party to it BL ? I am not.



No, but I am enough of a realist to know that Modi is no superman and corruption can never be completely eliminated. It does not even happen in western countries with a MUCH more robust legal infrastructure, we are talking about India here.

The goal should be to contain corruption to a degree where it does not affect the common man day in and day out, similar to how things work here. That itself is a monumental (and nearly impossible) undertaking in a country like India where this cancer has seeped into every single area and function of the country over decades. It requires not a cultural change, but a culture transformation. And cultures don't transform in days. That takes years if not decades. Modi's success will be to get the ball rolling and I believe he is taking the right steps on this. And my hope is he will be able to demonstrate tangible milestones for the same gradually - that is the best case scenario. And if he does not, the "janata" will look elsewhere come next election - this is how democracy works.






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ramar2005   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-09-14 01:04:40

One reason for the corruption of MMS/Sonia/UPA and the brazenness with which they undertook the same, is the "Secularism" astra the Congress had in its arsenal. With this weapon Congress was almost guaranteed of the 35% minority votes. Getting a majority they thought would be cakewalk. But the unimaginable economic crisis it caused made people abandon their preference for UPA even where the minorities were in large numbers except in Kerala.

Like communists, secularists too should also be defeated if India should progress and in place of secularism which is loosely interpreted by politicians, the Constitution should be strictly enforced, whether it is majority or minorities.


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DELHI INDIAN   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-09-14 09:15:30

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Originally posted by BlueLobster

( The goal should be to contain corruption to a degree where it does not affect the common man day in and day out, similar to how things work here. )


Agree but I don't see any policies and initiatives taken by new Government till now. when will they start thinking on these grounds. Can a common man or poor go to police station and government offices and get the work done easily? Can a common or poor man go to government hospitals and get the quality treatment ? Can a common man get the child admitted to school easily? If not, are there any steps or policies made and implemented by new government on theses?


(Modi's success will be to get the ball rolling and I believe he is taking the right steps on this.)

Can you please elaborate what right steps he has taken for the concerns you and San Hugo mentioned?

I understand that they cannot correct everything in short span but atleast they have to start from somewhere. India need to fix basic problems first. No doubt he is better than MMS and we have lot of expectations from him.




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febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-09-14 12:18:42

BJP has been in power at the Municipal level in Delhi (MCD) for quite a long time. The institution is the most corrupt and inefficient in the country, if not the world. Ask Delhites and you'll know first hand.

So, go figure.



Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-09-14 21:27:51

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Originally posted by febpreet

BJP has been in power at the Municipal level in Delhi (MCD) for quite a long time. The institution is the most corrupt and inefficient in the country, if not the world. Ask Delhites and you'll know first hand.

So, go figure.



Lol! Typical of a Kejri side kick.

Step1 :Pose an irrelevant question or speak about some stupid statement/act of a BJP guy
Step 2: Raise hue and cry over it
Step 3: Use whatever weird or crooked logic and link it Modi
Step 4: Blame Modi

What the hell Delhi MCD has to do with Modi?

However, once in a while, the tolerance limits are crossed and the anger of people spills over. Modi was certainly a beneficiary of that anger against MMS/Sonia. The absolute majority of Modi was because he got anti incumbency votes and votes for his development work in Gujarat.

I think the guy who posted this has a very weird sense of humor or is under stupor after consuming some drugs.





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