I hear that a lot of Kenyan Indians lost their lives in this assault. Five indian expatriates died. Canadians also died in this attack. This was indiscriminate barbaric shootings against civilians which included women and children.
Link:
http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/22/20632904-most-of-the-hostages-rescued-from-kenyan-mall-siege-as-fbi-begins-investigating-claims-of-americans-involvement?lite
Other news are bombings of Pakistan christian churches where 75 innocent people lost their lives. How can this fanaticism be so brutal?
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Tourist bhai:
This fanaticism is justified because, each one of these followers think that "a good Muslim is not capable of killing, Quran does not justify killings, blah blah blah blah...".
They truly believe that once sharia is implemented, all the violence will simply vanish into thin air.
But, they have no answer as to why they are fleeing Muslim majority countries to live in non-Muslim majority countries.
And then 76 Christians killed in a church in Pakistan ... by 2 suicide bombers ..
Trying to think pragmatically and do not intend to be biased but every time such attacks happen - 911 , 26/11 , Algeria Refinery hostage crisis , bombings in India and now these ....
One needs to wonder .. thinking pragmatically --- is there some degree of extremism / fanaticism that is there is the Muslim religion ... ?? If yes , then where does it originate ??
Even centuries later , we are seeing the same blood shed , same intolerance same ceaseless fighting and violence as existed then with in the religion ..
One is bound to think what are the teachings in the religion which promote such extreme levels of hatred and intolerance that a person is so much brain washed that he dis regards his own life and that of others and indulges in such violence / suicide bombings ....
Without fear or love , as a human being if we think - religion was made by man to help man and then the same religion creates so much senseless violence / hatred and loss of lives .
Why does this religion teach to fight and kill - OK people misinterpret it but there s no smoke without fire - why is it most of the times so easily interpretable so as to create the same results of violence and blood shed .....
Is Islam a religion of peace or intolerance where there is no place for infidels ?? ... And now that I say this .. is there no place for such a discussion or should I run for cover for some one with a sword or a gun is coming for me ??? Why is there such a phobia created by the perpetrators and so called strong practitioners of the faith .
Clearly there s some thing amiss in the teachings / faith ... Think about it !!!
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Fido.
Existence of any religion teaches one thing to humans - That we are not equal until unless we follow the same shit.
Religion is outdated concept, in case YOU still believe and follow some religious rulings consider yourself a slave who was hypnotized into your current shit when you were so small and incapable of making your decisions and then you never matured to take an independent decision.
Personally I blame no Islam, existence of any of the religion is curse to humanity.
Guru Nanak in his times after wandering half the world , studying multiple religions, lived in makka for 10 years, went to east , west , then finally said God is one , got no shape, no name, its everywhere and one need no religion no temple no mosque, no stone, no book to be with God. Irony is even he was misinterpreted and an another religion was born. He never meant to start one. Same case with Sidhartha (Budha). Somehow Humans are fond of making religions.
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Originally posted by san-hugo
Existence of any religion teaches one thing to humans - That we are not equal until unless we follow the same shit.
Religion is outdated concept, in case YOU still believe and follow some religious rulings consider yourself a slave who was hypnotized into your current shit when you were so small and incapable of making your decisions and then you never matured to take an independent decision.
Personally I blame no Islam, existence of any of the religion is curse to humanity.
Guru Nanak in his times after wandering half the world , studying multiple religions, lived in makka for 10 years, went to east , west , then finally said God is one , got no shape, no name, its everywhere and one need no religion no temple no mosque, no stone, no book to be with God. Irony is even he was misinterpreted and an another religion was born. He never meant to start one. Same case with Sidhartha (Budha). Somehow Humans are fond of making religions.
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Originally posted by Fido
And then 76 Christians killed in a church in Pakistan ... by 2 suicide bombers ..
Trying to think pragmatically and do not intend to be biased but every time such attacks happen - 911 , 26/11 , Algeria Refinery hostage crisis , bombings in India and now these ....
One needs to wonder .. thinking pragmatically --- is there some degree of extremism / fanaticism that is there is the Muslim religion ... ?? If yes , then where does it originate ??
Even centuries later , we are seeing the same blood shed , same intolerance same ceaseless fighting and violence as existed then with in the religion ..
One is bound to think what are the teachings in the religion which promote such extreme levels of hatred and intolerance that a person is so much brain washed that he dis regards his own life and that of others and indulges in such violence / suicide bombings ....
Without fear or love , as a human being if we think - religion was made by man to help man and then the same religion creates so much senseless violence / hatred and loss of lives .
Why does this religion teach to fight and kill - OK people misinterpret it but there s no smoke without fire - why is it most of the times so easily interpretable so as to create the same results of violence and blood shed .....
Is Islam a religion of peace or intolerance where there is no place for infidels ?? ... And now that I say this .. is there no place for such a discussion or should I run for cover for some one with a sword or a gun is coming for me ??? Why is there such a phobia created by the perpetrators and so called strong practitioners of the faith .
Clearly there s some thing amiss in the teachings / faith ... Think about it !!!
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Originally posted by Nightmare
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The terrorists reportedly asked the people to recite either a Koran verse or name of mother of Prophet. Those who could, were let go. The lesson is that it is time that schools introduce Muslim prayer in the school. Such kids, when they grow up nd are faced with similar situation can survive. I hope TDSB and Catholic School Board heeds to the message for the sake of safety of our kids.
For a second i thought, you were being sarcastic. If you are being serious with the above quote, Please explain your logic in below situations:
1) If the Islamists ask you to recite an entire Quran, what good is learning just the Islamic prayer? You might want to think of converting to be on the safe side.
2) But, still that is not going to help you, if you are found belonging to a minority sect of Islam e.g: Shia or sunni(depending on your country), ahmadi, alawaite etc. You will still get killed just for not being the "purest of the pure".
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