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Posted on: 21-01-14 17:45:47
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Originally posted by Surti
There is an assembly which is suppose to pass the bill and send to central government. Have kejri at a single instant asked for it? Has he approached BJP and Congress for their support?
Instead he want instant change of law, on the road itself, in front of camera and that is what no a single wise person believing in democracy can tolerate.
I wish you could see the real agenda of Kerji - to get publicity. Honest people don't shout they simply work on making changes.
He still have an opportunity to bring the bill, if he is sincere, but I bet he will do that.
So per you , Anna Hazare's approach of Dharna was wrong ?
Dharna s have been a legacy we have received from our father of nation .. to oppose things which are not justified ...So doing a Dharna cannot be wrong by any definition as long as it is peaceful ..
Regarding using alternative means is a refrain we are hearing from all BJP / Congress leaders who are feeling the waves of AK and a threat to their own existence .
If BJP / Congress had it in their manifesto , why did they not do anything about it till now ? Why are they shouting hoarse at AK -- simply because DP has been a corrupt organization assisted and controlled by corrupt ministers who have scratched each others' back .
AK has voiced his opposition and brought this to the highlight and knowledge of common people who are fed up with law and order situation ...
Funny thing to observe is - amongst other parties / critics they are not voicing over the law & order situation of Delhi or its inefficacy or the need of bringing DP under Delhi Govt . but the common refrain is ...... ' This yesterday's wonder boy is stealing the lime light ...Lets pull him down at any cost '
And then they start citing other ways to divert attention ... 'You know why does he not do that ... why is he doing this ' ......
Exactly what Kapil Sibal dared him to do .... Don't fight from outside , form Govt. and then fight ...He took the gauntlet and won because public wanted him to win .
I think common Indian who is fed up with a corrupt law , order and working environment is looking at AK as a messiah ...
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Fido.
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Originally posted by Surti
I wish you could see the real agenda of Kerji - to get publicity. Honest people don't shout they simply work on making changes.
And more often they get lost into nothingness not being allowed to practice honestly in a corrupt environment ...
Honesty itself cannot bring change ..It needs to be supported by boldness and publicity & strategy also .... Then alone can there be victory .... Otherwise an honest person will keep on blabbering and no one will hear ...
AK is taking the correct approach -- getting himself heard by public , which forces the other party to go on defensive if they are wrong ....
Shedding others dishonesty & corruption is a good way to let the public realize whom to vote for and bring into power .
All said and done , it sure takes a brave man to do what he s done ..I do not remember a CM going against the Centre with such boldness and against such odds .. weather included ....
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Fido.
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You are suggesting old ineffective approach which never worked. and btw yes AAP went through all formal channels of writing, putting papers , pushing and prodding.
Are you sure? There is something called Vidhan Sabha. They are the law makers not a normal citizen who just sends applications and expect others to implement that.
Have formally go thru it. All the things can't be sorted out on the streets dude. Think about Lalu tried to pass a law that Buffalos should have reserve seats in Delhi Metro - the way Kejri is trying.
In Democracy the hypocrisy of few crazy individuals doesn't count. There are more formal ways of handling things.
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Hurat Honani Murat!
So many laws have been changed and improved since independence without these kind of street agitations, so don't simply say that things doesn't change without such strong shows.
Also what he is trying to protest? To save a convicted and unruly law minister? To penalized the police officers who were citing the rules that they can't raid without search warrant?
Imagine someone sends an application to Bharti that "Sharmaji's House" is involved in the Sex and Drug racket and Bharti orders few police officers to raid it without any formal process. Things can't work like that in Democracy.
This is complete insane act and can only be explained if it is a systematic approch to destabilize India like other countries.
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Hurat Honani Murat!
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Originally posted by Surti
So many laws have been changed and improved since independence without these kind of street agitations, so don't simply say that things doesn't change without such strong shows.
Also what he is trying to protest? To save a convicted and unruly law minister? To penalized the police officers who were citing the rules that they can't raid without search warrant?
Imagine someone sends an application to Bharti that "Sharmaji's House" is involved in the Sex and Drug racket and Bharti orders few police officers to raid it without any formal process. Things can't work like that in Democracy.
This is complete insane act and can only be explained if it is a systematic approch to destabilize India like other countries.
Knowing and Going by the speed @ which the laws were changed in past, there will be tons of rapes, assaults accomplished. Its a matter of hurry and in hurry the message of intolerance should go to the criminals. Ofcourse it is needed to be eventually passed through the Vsabha. So if there is will , An ordinance can be promulgated for now and within 6 months it should pass through the house. There is provision for this in Indian constitution (article 123) . Same as an ordinance can be passed when parliament is not in session .
There should be a will... You, like your masters, are full of excuses. So stop advocating for your rogue party , and start worrying about Sharmaji who is actually is worried that next year his daughter will start college.
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Originally posted by Surti
So many laws have been changed and improved since independence without these kind of street agitations, so don't simply say that things doesn't change without such strong shows.
Also what he is trying to protest? To save a convicted and unruly law minister? To penalized the police officers who were citing the rules that they can't raid without search warrant?
Imagine someone sends an application to Bharti that "Sharmaji's House" is involved in the Sex and Drug racket and Bharti orders few police officers to raid it without any formal process. Things can't work like that in Democracy.
This is complete insane act and can only be explained if it is a systematic approch to destabilize India like other countries.
Yea, right! And, everybody knows how India has become a better place since independence with all these laws that have been changed by your dear Congressi's and Sanghi's sane acts.
Congress for 60 years and BJP albeit for a few years, couldn't even make India's Capital at least, a safer place to live for women.
Say what you will, Congress and BJP are two sides of the same coin - currupt and shameless.
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Originally posted by Surti
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You are suggesting old ineffective approach which never worked. and btw yes AAP went through all formal channels of writing, putting papers , pushing and prodding.
Are you sure? There is something called Vidhan Sabha. They are the law makers not a normal citizen who just sends applications and expect others to implement that.
Have formally go thru it. All the things can't be sorted out on the streets dude. Think about Lalu tried to pass a law that Buffalos should have reserve seats in Delhi Metro - the way Kejri is trying.
In Democracy the hypocrisy of few crazy individuals doesn't count. There are more formal ways of handling things.
Democracy and India are unfortunately getting more and more divergent.
In reality, in India, by the time the process of warrant, enquiry, raid, investigation, FIR, arrest, court, case, verdict and conviction is completed a potential trafficker would have transacted tons of drugs.
However, this is the route where the moolah is for everyone including the lawyers and when the Delhi Law Minister tries to bye-pass the route for the sake of the welfare of the local residents, it raises red flag for the vested interests.
One of the reasons for criticizing AK was that he was disturbing Republic Day preparations.
What purpose but only symbolic, if all the parade of the latest missiles, arms and ammunition, if it cannot protect the ordinary citizens.
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