Rs 500 and Rs 1,000 notes pulled out of circulation immediately in India !


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Delhite   
Member since: Nov 04
Posts: 938
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-01-17 09:52:05

Around 97% of demonetized notes are deposited in the banks. It indicates, unless government put strict anti corruption measurements with strict execution, it is not possible to clean up the economy. No political leader or bureaucrat trapped with very few exception of 2 or 3 incidents. Does it mean that all others are clean?

On the other hand, from benefits point of view, the people forget about the black money of off shore tax heavens and started worrying about their few thousand unchanged demonetized notes. What a joke.

The cleanliness drive should have started from top to bottom and not from bottom to top.


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rajcanada   
Member since: Jul 03
Posts: 2713
Location: Kitchener, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-01-17 14:41:00

Quote:
Originally posted by Delhite

Around 97% of demonetized notes are deposited in the banks. It indicates, unless government put strict anti corruption measurements with strict execution, it is not possible to clean up the economy. No political leader or bureaucrat trapped with very few exception of 2 or 3 incidents. Does it mean that all others are clean?

On the other hand, from benefits point of view, the people forget about the black money of off shore tax heavens and started worrying about their few thousand unchanged demonetized notes. What a joke.

The cleanliness drive should have started from top to bottom and not from bottom to top.



+1.

Amount of black money in other forms such as property, gold and offshore accounts would be much greater. Compared to that in cash would appear very small. Not sure why Modi is interested in small fish and taking a measure with such a large impact to lives of common people. May be catching big fish is not worth the risk.


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rajcanada   
Member since: Jul 03
Posts: 2713
Location: Kitchener, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-01-17 21:12:46

Got this email today.

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NRIs who were not present in India during November 9 - December 30, 2016 and who have also not deposited the Specified Bank Notes of ₹ 500 and ₹ 1,000 (hereinafter referred to as SBNs) into their bank accounts during November 10 - December 30, 2016, are now permitted by RBI to deposit the said SBNs at the RBI offices located at Mumbai, New Delhi, Chennai, Kolkata and Nagpur.

The said SBNs can now be deposited (upto a maximum of ₹ 25,000 per NRI individual) into the NRO account only once anytime during January 2 - June 30, 2017.

In view of the same, please take note of the following important points

1. This facility of deposit of SBNs is available only at the specified RBI offices, the addresses of which are available at the RBI website (https://rbi.org.in/). The bank notes cannot be deposited at any of the ICICI Bank Branches or Offices in India or overseas
2. The account in which the SBNs need to be deposited should be KYC Compliant
3. The SBNs to be deposited should be submitted to RBI along with the duly filled Annexure prescribed by RBI. Click Here to download the same.
4. Other documents to be submitted :
• A copy of passport with immigration stamp as proof of the individual’s absence from the country during November 9 - December 30, 2016. Passport in original should be presented at the RBI counter for verification.

• A certificate issued by Indian Customs on arrival through Red Channel after December 30, 2016 indicating the import of SBNs, with details and value thereof.

• Copies of statements of all bank accounts in India evidencing that no SBNs were deposited during November 10 - December 30, 2016.

Requisite document as per provisions of Section 114B of IT Rules, 1962. Copy of PAN Card is required to be submitted in respect of the specified transaction. Where an individual does not have a PAN, and the income (Sl. No. 22b of Form 60) is below the threshold exemption limit, duly filled in Form 60 can be submitted. Where an individual does not have a PAN, and the income (Sl. No. 22b of Form 60) is above the threshold exemption limit, duly filled in Form 60 can be submitted with the PAN application details (Sl. No. 21 of Form 60) and proof of submission of such application. Click here to download the Form 60 format.
5. An acknowledgement of receipt will be issued to the tenderers pending credit of admissible amount.
6. The Bank Notes have to be deposited by the account holder in person. They cannot be deposited by a Third Party.
7. NRIs/PIOs are not permitted to send the Bank Notes through postal channels to relatives in India
8. The facility is not available to Indian residents residing in Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh and Pakistan
9. The deposit will be permitted by RBI subject to scrutiny of the documents submitted, fulfillment of the Terms & Conditions of the Scheme, and Genuineness of the notes tendered
10. Any person, aggrieved by the decision of RBI may prefer an appeal to the Central Board of the Reserve Bank within fourteen days of the communication of such refusal. Such representations may be addressed to the Central Board, Reserve Bank of India, Secretary’s Department, Central Office Building, 16th Floor, Shahid Bhagat Singh Marg, Mumbai – 400 001.

For more details, you may visit RBI website at https://www.rbi.org.in/Scripts/NotificationUser.aspx?Id=10808&Mode=0


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san-hugo   
Member since: Aug 10
Posts: 2009
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-01-17 23:07:48

Quote:
Originally posted by Delhite

The cleanliness drive should have started from top to bottom and not from bottom to top.



Exactly. Though intention of PM is right, act is totally convoluted. People would have supported demonitisation if only few months in advance some big fish including politicians were caught in action and jailed. If visible measures were taken to show case that fight is on such as List of Swiss bank holders was made public (Excuse given time and again is that list is with supreme court for past 3 years , No idea why SC will keep on holding it for 3 years and do nothing) or strengthening of ACB ( Anti Corruption Bureau), CCTVs availability in offices with public dealings, Bill over transparency and RTI on party donations, Strictness over attendance of govt employees, surprise raids with live telecasts etc. etc. IF Center would have taken these steps, People would have happily accepted the DeMo and celebrated the order and supported Modi full heartedly. But this was a desperate measure taken under pressure of performance before elections in 5 states.

Lokpal bill was passed, right ? Thats why Ann Hazare was given pinapple Juice ! is it implemented ? Its been around 1.5 years now ! How many arrested ? Main idea behind lokpal was to catch the defaulting lawmakers.


I hope list is being compiled of all the accounts which got crores deposited in those PACHAASS Din. I hope we will know the true stats one day.







shobhade   
Member since: Aug 16
Posts: 57
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-01-17 05:29:46

OCI and PIO are NOT included, since they are foreign citizens with foreign passports, and have No Indian citizenship or Indian passport, as they had to relinquish that.

So basically only NRI's are included.

NRI's is a general term used for all Indians abroad, but OCI and PIO card holders are not NRI's, they are foreign citizens.

Note ban: Grace period for exchange doesn’t apply to PIOs/OCIs

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/note-ban-grace-period-for-exchange-doesnt-apply-to-pios/ocis/articleshow/56431219.cms


Quote:
Originally posted by rajcanada

Got this email today.

---------------------------

NRIs who were not present in India during November 9 - December 30, 2016 and who have also not deposited the Specified Bank Notes of ₹ 500 and ₹ 1,000 (hereinafter referred to as SBNs) into their bank accounts during November 10 - December 30, 2016, are now permitted by RBI to deposit the said SBNs at the RBI offices located at Mumbai, New Delhi, Chennai, Kolkata and Nagpur.

The said SBNs can now be deposited (upto a maximum of ₹ 25,000 per NRI individual) into the NRO account only once anytime during January 2 - June 30, 2017.

In view of the same, please take note of the following important points

1. This facility of deposit of SBNs is available only at the specified RBI offices, the addresses of which are available at the RBI website (https://rbi.org.in/). The bank notes cannot be deposited at any of the ICICI Bank Branches or Offices in India or overseas
2. The account in which the SBNs need to be deposited should be KYC Compliant
3. The SBNs to be deposited should be submitted to RBI along with the duly filled Annexure prescribed by RBI. Click Here to download the same.
4. Other documents to be submitted :
• A copy of passport with immigration stamp as proof of the individual’s absence from the country during November 9 - December 30, 2016. Passport in original should be presented at the RBI counter for verification.

• A certificate issued by Indian Customs on arrival through Red Channel after December 30, 2016 indicating the import of SBNs, with details and value thereof.

• Copies of statements of all bank accounts in India evidencing that no SBNs were deposited during November 10 - December 30, 2016.

Requisite document as per provisions of Section 114B of IT Rules, 1962. Copy of PAN Card is required to be submitted in respect of the specified transaction. Where an individual does not have a PAN, and the income (Sl. No. 22b of Form 60) is below the threshold exemption limit, duly filled in Form 60 can be submitted. Where an individual does not have a PAN, and the income (Sl. No. 22b of Form 60) is above the threshold exemption limit, duly filled in Form 60 can be submitted with the PAN application details (Sl. No. 21 of Form 60) and proof of submission of such application. Click here to download the Form 60 format.
5. An acknowledgement of receipt will be issued to the tenderers pending credit of admissible amount.
6. The Bank Notes have to be deposited by the account holder in person. They cannot be deposited by a Third Party.
7. NRIs/PIOs are not permitted to send the Bank Notes through postal channels to relatives in India
8. The facility is not available to Indian residents residing in Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh and Pakistan
9. The deposit will be permitted by RBI subject to scrutiny of the documents submitted, fulfillment of the Terms & Conditions of the Scheme, and Genuineness of the notes tendered
10. Any person, aggrieved by the decision of RBI may prefer an appeal to the Central Board of the Reserve Bank within fourteen days of the communication of such refusal. Such representations may be addressed to the Central Board, Reserve Bank of India, Secretary’s Department, Central Office Building, 16th Floor, Shahid Bhagat Singh Marg, Mumbai – 400 001.

For more details, you may visit RBI website at https://www.rbi.org.in/Scripts/NotificationUser.aspx?Id=10808&Mode=0





shobhade   
Member since: Aug 16
Posts: 57
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-01-17 11:50:21

If you are OCI or PIO holder, you can't even do that .What a foolish rule .

Only NRI's who are on Indian Passport with Indian citizenship are allowed.

Foreign citizens on Foreign passport, with OCI or PIO card are not allowed to deposit

All OCI and PIO should complain about this ! They want FDI from us, but the same rules like NRI don't apply to us.

OCI and PIO are not NRI's. Lot of people forget that and are confused. OCI, PIO, NRI, Indian resident, so much rubbish and confusion.

Note ban: Grace period for exchange doesn’t apply to PIOs/OCIs

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/note-ban-grace-period-for-exchange-doesnt-apply-to-pios/ocis/articleshow/56431219.cms



rajcanada   
Member since: Jul 03
Posts: 2713
Location: Kitchener, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-01-17 11:38:23

Quote:
Originally posted by shobhade

If you are OCI or PIO holder, you can't even do that .What a foolish rule .

Only NRI's who are on Indian Passport with Indian citizenship are allowed.

Foreign citizens on Foreign passport, with OCI or PIO card are not allowed to deposit

All OCI and PIO should complain about this ! They want FDI from us, but the same rules like NRI don't apply to us.

OCI and PIO are not NRI's. Lot of people forget that and are confused. OCI, PIO, NRI, Indian resident, so much rubbish and confusion.

Note ban: Grace period for exchange doesn’t apply to PIOs/OCIs

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/note-ban-grace-period-for-exchange-doesnt-apply-to-pios/ocis/articleshow/56431219.cms</font>


Only residents of India are allowed to take Rs. 25,000 out of India, so they are being allowed to deposit the old notes up to that limit. Foreign citizens are not allowed to take Indian Rupees out of India. It is another matter that for convenience people do take it outside India as India is still majorly cash based economy.

Edit: My above post is incorrect. Foreigners are also allowed to take Rs. 25,000 outside India and bring it to India.


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