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URGENT!!: Soft Landing in Canada




Hi,

We have a COPR and are travelling to Canada in the next week for our soft-landing. We will be returning to our home country after a 2-week stay. We may eventually migrate in 2019.

Had a couple of questions around the same:
1. At the port of entry, I will be presenting all the documentation (certificates, bank statements, etc.) to present to the authorities. Am I also required to bring in the min. reqd. forex with me?
We are visiting through a conducted group tour and the entire trip is funded. I am carrying bare minimum forex for shopping, etc. I am also carrying a 6-month bank statement, current balance and 6 payslips.
My PR agent has asked me to carry the min. forex. that I have shown during my PR application ~ CAD19200 for the 3 of us.

2. As we will be returning in 2 weeks, we won't be around to collect the PR Cards. Can I have these delivered to my contacts in Canada? Subsequently, is it safe for them to courier it to me? I have been told that couriers are scanned if a PR card is noted, it my have adverse consequences. Recommendation is that I should get it physically delivered to me.
Again, here my PR agent has asked me to stay in Canada and receive the PR cards myself; which is a ridiculous ask.

We are travelling in about a week's time. So, a quick reply would be appreciated in case we need to arrange for something.


 
Last edited by: gpkamat on 11-05-18 01:16:39
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Post ID: 237036 11-05-18 01:07:16
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Thank you for dropping in here for a Second Opinion.

This response to you is in NO particular order to your post. It will make more sense when you read it as written.

It will be nice to carry your friend's Address and Phone number and other pertinent details, which might be relevant to your entry into Canada.

Since you will be converting a large sum at the current high rate of Exchange in Rupees, I would advise you to open up an NRE A/C with an FCNR standing. You please purchase a Demand Draft for that sum. Upon your return from the conducted trip, deposit the same back into it and derive the benefit there upon your investment. It is a double whammy and might become a triple one too. You will be producing the same for your entry if asked, for the CBSA (Agent) for their requirements. Carry the same back intact and safe for your deposit into the NRE A/C., upon return. They only do it on a yearly basis. So, see if it is possible to get it for a lower period if that is what your requirements will be.

Enjoy your conducted tour as planned and also meet with your friend/s during your travels. Also, please complete the other requirements for the receipt of the PR Cards. It is a very nice time of the year to visit and it is a lot cooler than the tropics, so prepare well.

I would urge you to get a positive response from the CBSA Agent when you are submitting your papers for your PR Cards, in the affirmative, prior to leaving the counter, just to make sure that you will be receiving your Cards in the mail to the address you provide and the application and the pictures are in compliance to their requirements.

Though your PR agent is prudent in his request to suggest that you please pick the same personally, and if the travel itinerary does not permit you to do that, follow up with the procedure you are making to receive the same back home after you reach and request for the despatch of the same.

Please do provide the friend who will be receiving the same on your behalf a Postal Authorization, here in Canada to RECEIVE, Open and Verify the contents and then re-direct it to you through a Courier at your expense to your home.

It may be a fact that the current scanners do detect the contents within, the Couriers do not refuse the delivery of the same to anyone, unless they suspect some foul play. Alternately, arrange delivery through a friend to reach you personally.

Welcome to Canada.

Bon Voyage and a safe trip.


FH.

Proof funds..: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/become-candidate/eligibility/proof-funds.html

L.o.A., : https://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/22-053-126_(09-10)_d.pdf

https://www.canadapost.ca/web/en/kb/details.page?article=letter_of_authorizat&cattype=kb&cat=atthepostoffice&subcat=services

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Originally posted by gpkamat

Hi,

We have a COPR and are travelling to Canada in the next week for our soft-landing. We will be returning to our home country after a 2-week stay. We may eventually migrate in 2019.

Had a couple of questions around the same:
1. At the port of entry, I will be presenting all the documentation (certificates, bank statements, etc.) to present to the authorities. Am I also required to bring in the min. reqd. forex with me?
We are visiting through a conducted group tour and the entire trip is funded. I am carrying bare minimum forex for shopping, etc. I am also carrying a 6-month bank statement, current balance and 6 payslips.
My PR agent has asked me to carry the min. forex. that I have shown during my PR application ~ CAD19200 for the 3 of us.

2. As we will be returning in 2 weeks, we won't be around to collect the PR Cards. Can I have these delivered to my contacts in Canada? Subsequently, is it safe for them to courier it to me? I have been told that couriers are scanned if a PR card is noted, it my have adverse consequences. Recommendation is that I should get it physically delivered to me.
Again, here my PR agent has asked me to stay in Canada and receive the PR cards myself; which is a ridiculous ask.

We are travelling in about a week's time. So, a quick reply would be appreciated in case we need to arrange for something.





 
Post ID: 237040 11-05-18 12:00:48
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Thanks for the detailed response and wishes.

Regarding the funds, I wanted to know whether it is mandatory to carry the CAD funding amount (either in DD or otherwise) for a soft landing. I would have to liquidate my investments to do that. I can do it when we migrate next year. But this is just a soft landing to get the PR cards. Wouldnt it help if I just carry a balance statement for my bank accounts here? I can demonstrate the availability of funds based on that.

NRE a/cs are only allowed for NRIs. We wont be NRIs till we stay outside India for atleast 180 days. We will be returning immediately after our 2-week conducted tour.

Quote:
Originally posted by Full House

This response to you is in NO particular order to your post. It will make more sense when you read it as written.

It will be nice to carry your friend's Address and Phone number and other pertinent details, which might be relevant to your entry into Canada.

Since you will be converting a large sum at the current high rate of Exchange in Rupees, I would advise you to open up an NRE A/C with an FCNR standing. You please purchase a Demand Draft for that sum. Upon your return from the conducted trip, deposit the same back into it and derive the benefit there upon your investment. It is a double whammy and might become a triple one too. You will be producing the same for your entry if asked, for the CBSA (Agent) for their requirements. Carry the same back intact and safe for your deposit into the NRE A/C., upon return. They only do it on a yearly basis. So, see if it is possible to get it for a lower period if that is what your requirements will be.

Enjoy your conducted tour as planned and also meet with your friend/s during your travels. Also, please complete the other requirements for the receipt of the PR Cards. It is a very nice time of the year to visit and it is a lot cooler than the tropics, so prepare well.

I would urge you to get a positive response from the CBSA Agent when you are submitting your papers for your PR Cards, in the affirmative, prior to leaving the counter, just to make sure that you will be receiving your Cards in the mail to the address you provide and the application and the pictures are in compliance to their requirements.

Though your PR agent is prudent in his request to suggest that you please pick the same personally, and if the travel itinerary does not permit you to do that, follow up with the procedure you are making to receive the same back home after you reach and request for the despatch of the same.

Please do provide the friend who will be receiving the same on your behalf a Postal Authorization, here in Canada to RECEIVE, Open and Verify the contents and then re-direct it to you through a Courier at your expense to your home.

It may be a fact that the current scanners do detect the contents within, the Couriers do not refuse the delivery of the same to anyone, unless they suspect some foul play. Alternately, arrange delivery through a friend to reach you personally.

Welcome to Canada.

Bon Voyage and a safe trip.


FH.

Proof funds..: https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/express-entry/become-candidate/eligibility/proof-funds.html

L.o.A., : https://www.canadapost.ca/tools/pg/manual/22-053-126_(09-10)_d.pdf

https://www.canadapost.ca/web/en/kb/details.page?article=letter_of_authorizat&cattype=kb&cat=atthepostoffice&subcat=services

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Quote:
Originally posted by gpkamat

Hi,

We have a COPR and are travelling to Canada in the next week for our soft-landing. We will be returning to our home country after a 2-week stay. We may eventually migrate in 2019.

Had a couple of questions around the same:
1. At the port of entry, I will be presenting all the documentation (certificates, bank statements, etc.) to present to the authorities. Am I also required to bring in the min. reqd. forex with me?
We are visiting through a conducted group tour and the entire trip is funded. I am carrying bare minimum forex for shopping, etc. I am also carrying a 6-month bank statement, current balance and 6 payslips.
My PR agent has asked me to carry the min. forex. that I have shown during my PR application ~ CAD19200 for the 3 of us.

2. As we will be returning in 2 weeks, we won't be around to collect the PR Cards. Can I have these delivered to my contacts in Canada? Subsequently, is it safe for them to courier it to me? I have been told that couriers are scanned if a PR card is noted, it my have adverse consequences. Recommendation is that I should get it physically delivered to me.
Again, here my PR agent has asked me to stay in Canada and receive the PR cards myself; which is a ridiculous ask.

We are travelling in about a week's time. So, a quick reply would be appreciated in case we need to arrange for something.






 
Post ID: 237042 11-05-18 12:40:42
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The CBSA Agent has NO discretionary powers to waive any of the rules for any Immigrant, at the time of entry. You may call a landing as a soft or a hard one. But to gain entry into Canada Proof of funds are a mandatory requirement. You have to produce the same at the time of entry and at the port of entry. ( They do not know that you are leaving after that nor what you do with it here in Canada) All of this is carried out in good faith.

And for those who enter into Canada from areas where there are regulations for currency export, the Rupees you have are not freely convertible here and hence the requirement that you have funds that are readily available to you here upon arrival.

Hope this helps.


FH.
Most of the Bank Managers will open an N.R.E a/c for you upon you producing your COPR and will provide you with the Foreign Exchange that you require for your travels and stay to a maximum permissible amount. Please check with the higher ups.

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Thanks for the detailed response and wishes.

Regarding the funds, I wanted to know whether it is mandatory to carry the CAD funding amount (either in DD or otherwise) for a soft landing. I would have to liquidate my investments to do that. I can do it when we migrate next year. But this is just a soft landing to get the PR cards. Wouldnt it help if I just carry a balance statement for my bank accounts here? I can demonstrate the availability of funds based on that.

NRE a/cs are only allowed for NRIs. We wont be NRIs till we stay outside India for atleast 180 days. We will be returning immediately after our 2-week conducted tour.


 
Post ID: 237043 11-05-18 13:29:18
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Ok. That makes it amply clear.

A couple of follow-up queries:
1. Can I take the entire amount in CAD in travellers cheques? I already have carried some forex on a prepaid card.
2. Do I have to deposit the amount in a Canadian bank? In that case I will have to open an account in Canada and we wont have the time for that. Or I can bring the travellers cheques back with me to India and encash it again?

Regards

Quote:
Originally posted by Full House

The CBSA Agent has NO discretionary powers to waive any of the rules for any Immigrant, at the time of entry. You may call a landing as a soft or a hard one. But to gain entry into Canada Proof of funds are a mandatory requirement. You have to produce the same at the time of entry and at the port of entry. ( They do not know that you are leaving after that nor what you do with it here in Canada) All of this is carried out in good faith.

And for those who enter into Canada from areas where there are regulations for currency export, the Rupees you have are not freely convertible here and hence the requirement that you have funds that are readily available to you here upon arrival.

Hope this helps.


FH.
Most of the Bank Managers will open an N.R.E a/c for you upon you producing your COPR and will provide you with the Foreign Exchange that you require for your travels and stay to a maximum permissible amount. Please check with the higher ups.

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Thanks for the detailed response and wishes.

Regarding the funds, I wanted to know whether it is mandatory to carry the CAD funding amount (either in DD or otherwise) for a soft landing. I would have to liquidate my investments to do that. I can do it when we migrate next year. But this is just a soft landing to get the PR cards. Wouldnt it help if I just carry a balance statement for my bank accounts here? I can demonstrate the availability of funds based on that.

NRE a/cs are only allowed for NRIs. We wont be NRIs till we stay outside India for atleast 180 days. We will be returning immediately after our 2-week conducted tour.





 
Post ID: 237044 11-05-18 14:30:46
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I entered for a 3 week period and carried the funds as that's a requirement mentioned and the CBSA can put you in trouble with that.

It would be a bit of an exchange rate loss but make you feel confident while landing.

It is only the first time that they do these checks as after that you are already a landed PR.

You can carry it in TCs and can carry them back. No need to open an account and deposit money.

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Last edited by: Fido on 11-05-18 14:35:41
Post ID: 237045 11-05-18 14:34:23
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There is NO such thing as a soft landing or hard landing in Canada's eyes . That's only in our mind. The CBSA guys don't care whether your are coming here for 1 day or 2 weeks or 2 years.

For them its a your first landing at a POE in Canada as a PR/Immigrant on a COPR . That's all they care, so they will check if you have the settlement funds or not. If you are lucky they might not ask for a proof of settlement funds, but that's a chance you DON'T want to take, as usually they do check for it.

Also don't forget to fill up the necessary forms & documents for GOODS TO FOLLOW list. As 1 year from now when you DO come here permanently & bring anything with you, they might charge you customs duty on it..unless you have done a goods to follow list.



 
Post ID: 237046 11-05-18 18:42:44
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What you carry in addition to the required amount which you can take back for reconciliation, and for personal use can be in any form and in any currencies that you choose and use it prudently. Also, take good care of it.

The DD that you carry will take care of the CBSA`s mandatory requirements.

Once again, PLEASE declare the TOTAL amount you carry in person.

FH.


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Ok. That makes it amply clear.

A couple of follow-up queries:
1. Can I take the entire amount in CAD in travellers cheques? I already have carried some forex on a prepaid card.
2. Do I have to deposit the amount in a Canadian bank? In that case I will have to open an account in Canada and we wont have the time for that. Or I can bring the travellers cheques back with me to India and encash it again?


 
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