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Poll:Time for Change
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Strongly Disagree 8% (1)

Time for Change




I am getting bored of seeing the same thing everyday. Infact I have been noticing that nowadays most of the queries go unanswered. This is a sure sign of apathy and is not good for the website and cd members.

Could we have better topics, a better layout, and better issues to discuss than these run of the mill tales/ tales of woes which surely are coming up in substantial numbers but do not seem to do any good.

I am not averse to listening or reading them, but the stories and issues have been repeated over and over so many times, it reminds me of those hindi movies which have the same theme. (Two brothers, separated at birth and meet later on, unite and vanquish the bad man.) Remember the audience knew what to expect when they went to watch a movie like that.

I think it is high time we moved over to the next level/ platform where in we use our time' more constructively' and have ourselves better issues to address.

Lets change the way we are doing things and reposition our website.

What are your suggestions? Does anyone have any better idea or opinion / recommendation to make?

I am attaching a poll for you to help decide.

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SUDHISH

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Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 169
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: 25587 16-09-04 01:09:56
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Sudhish,

I agree we need to make at least some changes.

Since you started the topic, what are your suggestions for this?


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Post ID: 25624 16-09-04 10:09:37
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YoursTruly
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Member since: Jul 04




Posts: 274
Location: Brampton


Hi BL,

Sudhish has a valid point. I have a suggestion which can be further refined by other desis.

We do have a large knowledge bank on this website but most of it is so diffused that new desis might be finding it difficult or time-consuming to sift through it to find the answer they are looking for.

Some broad categories should be identified and each category should have FAQs. If a member wants further clarification on any of the answers then he can post his question on the discussion board.

It is, of course, recognized that everything cannot be categorized but by following this approach many of the repetitions can be avoided.




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Post ID: 25631 16-09-04 11:11:44
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SUDHISH
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Member since: Nov 03




Posts: 169
Location: Mississauga


I think we should leave discussions of post landing trauma and some other related topics ( which have been discussed over and over again with no end result) to a different page/ location - far far away.

It may not be liked by some, they may say we are trying to put a veil on the issue but that is not true. I think that this subject has been discussed enough and there have been a plethora of pros and cons and experiences which are no different that they have to be written all over again unless someone has all the time on earth and also if one needs to improve his typing skills.

Let us give all the pages a cleaner look and have a neat home page (Not so much of clutter on the home page.)

Let this not be like one of the message boards.

These are my views and I thought of penning them down. We have to move our website from an ordinary league to a not - so- ordinary league.

What do you say? Suggestions?? Recommendations - senior, Junior and not so daily CDS?

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Post ID: 25669 16-09-04 13:23:10
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SUDHISH
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Posts: 169
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Post ID: 25670 16-09-04 13:23:14
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Quote:
Orginally posted by SUDHISH

I think we should leave discussions of post landing trauma and some other related topics ( which have been discussed over and over again with no end result) to a different page/ location - far far away.


Hmmm...No. I don't think we should move the posts, or the section, of those that contain sad or sordid stories far away. That is reality and hiding it will be wrong. If you plan to retain only the posts of successful stories and happy endings on the front page, then pulling away the sad and failed ones and putting them elsewhere will be an unethical maneuver.
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I think that this subject has been discussed enough ...snip


Whether a subject has been discussed enough or not depends on the people discussing it. Simple logic dictates that when they feel that it has been discussed enough they will stop discussing it themselves. Why should someone not participating in a discussion want to stop that discussion. Not interested - do not participate!

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Last edited by: wisernow on 16-09-04 18:08:33
Post ID: 25707 16-09-04 18:07:21
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bighead
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i second teja's faq idea.. specially for the immigration section, and maybe also for citizenship... it should not be hard to identify which ones get asked the most... "how much longer"; "land, return the next day, what about pr card" and "citizenship/fingerprints" come to mind... could even be something as simple as consolidating all these questions into one post and making it a stickey...

 
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SUDHISH
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Posts: 169
Location: Mississauga


We do not want to have happy or sad endings on the front page - yes we can have a link on experiences on the home page itself. We are not been unethical by doing that.

Teja - I do agree that we cannot have black and white areas on this but relevant and obvious can be removed or deleted for repetitions.

I must mention a couple of things which I have seen in this forums:

a) Most of the discussions start on a good note, there is some revelance and logic/ thought going in it. Suddenly all hell breaks lose when someone makes an off track / silly comment and for all for us that comment becomes the topic for discussion. While I do understand that this is the way the discussion must go on, please note that the thread still continues with the same title as topic for discussion, but with a tangential reasoning, logic and to sum it up - utter chaos. No one benefits out of it. It is like Chinese whisper.

b) Another point, we have the same people under aliases making comments all over the place. Dont you think this should be discouraged?

c) Relevance, be precise and benefit out of it. That must be the mantra. We need better policing.

d) Magnetism.. Tales of woes attract similar people, and soon the website would be a website which has all negative opinions. A year ago, this was my opinion of this website even before I left India. I stopped looking at the website when I was close to landing, because I always felt that this website would shapen me with a negative outlook if I were to read it everyday. Infact I started looking at this website only after I smelt success and have been contributing Volunatrily to the cds. And as many would know, mine was a success story. ( I am not boasting about it)


e) Lets keep the mantle for discussion open. Lets make it more exciting. More relevant. I have benefitted out of the immense knowledge my cd friends have posted here. Lets keep the fire alive. But change is needed and i feel it is high time we did.

f) The threads... Most of it are redundant and repetitive.

g) It is high time Senior CD's put their Brains together and come up with something good.

I wish to mention that Continuous Improvement is the key

Best regards,

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Last edited by: SUDHISH on 16-09-04 21:48:58
Post ID: 25723 16-09-04 21:44:14
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Mishtar India
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Posts: 668
Location: Toronto


Sometimes our best critics are our best friends.

This is a great site with great potential. A fantastic effort by GG , BL and Massood and i commend their involvemt to make this site what it is today.

But i dont think that some of the so called senior desis are making the job any easier for these folks here ( i am a so called senior desi too!! unfortunately )....

is it right to just keep suggesting to them how to change the presentation of layouts of the site to attract more people ?
Thepresent layout of the site is great , it could take some cosmetic changes here and there but problem does not lie in layout at all .

We, the more active members have to create and encourage an open and tolerant environment in our discussions to encourage everyone to openly share their opinions and views. The moderation by BL in the discussion groups has been very fair and with minimal censorship and he is a voice of reason with good balance . But the moderator is not responsible for the tone of the threads ....it is the frequent users who determine the tone and unfortunately we have only a few regular users left ....20-25 out of 9000+!!!

-Have we ever wondered, why those who found this site so exciting in the beginning that people signup for membership and then refrain from speaking out in the forums?
- why some very very good writers with great backgrounds have just abandoned the forum after a few posts?
-many great contributors come back very rarely nowadays ? what drove them away ? ...remember jake3d, sridhar, kraj and many many more ....

a short and easy answer some Seniors would give that these guys maybe too busy to contribute... and look at us , how dedicated we are... despite our busy schedules we volunteer our time --if we think that this is the answer then we are fooling ourselves.

its time to wake up and smell the coffee, the writing is on the wall folks !!

the truth is in the threads for everyone to see ---- just see how many contributors with different viewpoints forum were driven away by attacks by few Senior contributors.

I asked some of my friends who have astonishing tales of career successes and very valuable experiences which they could share here to join the forum ....but not one of them posted a thing ...why ? their response ..-- eh, many people are trying to stoke their egos here.


I agree with Sudhish ..its time for some introspection , esp for the regulars contributors ..including myself.


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Orginally posted by SUDHISH

a) Most of the discussions start on a good note, there is some revelance and logic/ thought going in it. Suddenly all hell breaks lose when someone makes an off track / silly comment and for all for us that comment becomes the topic for discussion. While I do understand that this is the way the discussion must go on, please note that the thread still continues with the same title as topic for discussion, but with a tangential reasoning, logic and to sum it up - utter chaos. No one benefits out of it. It is like Chinese whisper.

tell me about it Sudhish !!.... it is hard to post a new thread these days without someone tangentially taking personal swipe at you ....in return if one responds then the cycle goes on .... if one does not repond then they will keep taking swipes at others and keep going on

b) Another point, we have the same people under aliases making comments all over the place. Dont you think this should be discouraged?

cant do much about it , unless BL can come out of a way to block it .... it is a drawback of an open forum like CD...but troll get easily identified and exposed.


c) Relevance, be precise and benefit out of it. That must be the mantra. We need better policing.

i guess the biggest volunteer on this site after GG and BL is Massood and a few others very objective contributors. ...maybe creating junior moderators for each group might help.


d) Magnetism.. Tales of woes attract similar people, and soon the website would be a website which has all negative opinions. A year ago, this was my opinion of this website even before I left India. I stopped looking at the website when I was close to landing, because I always felt that this website would shapen me with a negative outlook if I were to read it everyday. Infact I started looking at this website only after I smelt success and have been contributing Volunatrily to the cds. And as many would know, mine was a success story. ( I am not boasting about it)

Believe me guys....i have treid to bring many higly successful ...some even rags to riches people to contribute their successes on this site ....but the tone here does not appeal to many....most discussions lose objectivity and the whole thing goes into a tizzy after some personal remarks .


e) Lets keep the mantle for discussion open. Lets make it more exciting. More relevant. I have benefitted out of the immense knowledge my cd friends have posted here. Lets keep the fire alive. But change is needed and i feel it is high time we did.

Completely agree....we all have benefitted and that is why we want to stick around and contribute ..despite personal swipes and attacks .....if we dont change ...we will be left with just a handfull of us yapping around in circles....i can see that happenning ,i hope and pray it doesnt happen ...and believe me i wont be around then .....i do see a chance that we can change and we should do our best to change.

g) It is high time Senior CD's put their Brains together and come up with something good.
Best regards,




do we really want to continue in the downward spiral we are beginning to get into.?
....think about it


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