What went wrong with Immigration Policies of Canada
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Posted on: 23-09-04 09:56:54
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Orginally posted by infocan
Hi Canadian Desi Chaps
As prospective immigrant reading this post . I have to say one thing. Canadian Govt should make passing laws stricter lest many duffers get passed that immigration skill test. They simply do not value the privilege rights of being part of developed world. Let these educated engineers/professor etc come back home and earn so called good money. I am sure these people are good for nothing back home. Else would have come back.
Recently I applied for UK under point system ( hsmp) & got failed. Here the detail
Education: They gave me 15 points for my degree.
Work experience: 0 point for my work experience. Reasons not written on the experience letter that job requires graduate experience. & What kind of experience I showed to them? A letter showing all duties what a Technical leader in embedded software (engineer) is expected to do in a MNC. Going to onsite in US for discussion with client. (Even showed 10 year multiple entry B1 visa) Leading 4-member team of engineers back home in India. Design , developing software working in cmm level 5 company.
Earnings: I earn now around 7 lakhs gross per annum. Again what is listed on form 16 they look for. No considerations on HRA tax benefit, Provident fund money etc. Again got 0 point for not warning 7500 pounds.
Spouse Earning: Despite giving original marriage certificate, kid’s birth certificate, joint bank account statement, They were not convince that we live together for more than 2 years. Want some kind of utility bills that showed we live together in same house. Again got 0 points. Many people get shock of their life after getting evaluated from hsmp uk. The success rate is 40 % only these days
Just giving you chaps idea as what other countries valued our system or how they evaluate us. Thanks Canadian Govt for atleast giving prospective immigrant a chance to prove himself in developed world with equal rights. All these Duffers that want to go to UNO or want to sue Canadian govt ,should be slammed & asked to come back home. Start living Dream life in India that they fail to get in Canada.
Who are you calling duffer.....if you can suggest immigrants in Canada to go back to successful career in India, why are you dissapointed by the selection decision. You have stated your success in India and you are expecting similar treatment in Canada.........man you are lucky for getting rejected by UK , atleast they dont want to fall in same trouble as Canada...........
You must have noticed in my thread and nobody dared touch that point...if you are interviewed for a software position and asked to clean washrooms (toilets as known back home) what will be your reaction???
Your immigration process is based on qualification and experience & on reaching here you are asked to pack boxes, sweep floors, clean washrooms etc.........by people less qualified then you and have only credential on their side of being in Canada for more years than you......understood team leader.......
There are job agency they take your math, english and problem solving test to offer you janitorial work................what high standard selection for a bhangi position..............dont be over confident.......every immigrant coming to Canada thinks the same way you are thinking......"baki sabh duffer thay eak hum hae joe waha par jakar dekha denge success kya hae".............
You are a absolute duffer to overlook the message and blow your own trumpet...........................7 lakhs you are earning there is just $21000, less than a janitor(bhangi) makes here...........wake up man and dont talk cheap languange....it is not going to be accepted in Canada....
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Orginally posted by Gapodi
Mansavi
Fools can "dream " of anything
No body has told them that a wonderful cushy life is guaranteed for them.
And if after coming here they do realize that they are not likely to make it big what the hell stops them from leaving??????????????
If anyone wants to see the success stories on immigrants from India and Pakistan, just go to Toronto downtown in the mornign rush hours. Tens of hundreds have got emplyment in very good jobs.
But then duffers dont understand, do they????
Did you ask everyone at downtown where they are off too.......or just a shot in dark.....they are successful
I know a pakistan having a shop in China Town spadina downtown......he never calls himself successful.....escape from labour for him...................Gapodi......apde koi divas serious thavu joiye.....aa soo bakwas tu kare cha, just because you get down at downtown you are successful..........Dholk-Dholki you must have got the hidden formula of success now......should recommend to CIC, everybody off to work (labour job) via DOWNTOWN
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Orginally posted by Gapodi
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Orginally posted by dhokla-dhokli
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The matter of shame is that the skilled immigrants trying to settle themselves should be asking and learning form thsoe who have been succesfull. But instead of that they are indulging in cheap personal attacks and useless rambling.
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Can anyone tell me that Why Indians are not so successful whereas in rest of world Indians are very very successful. What Canada has so special for failure of many Indians? Can we have Kalpana chawla , here in Canada with Canadian backup?
But canada would only patronize, assist stip clubs, dancers, outcall escort agencies which can support their economy well . What they need is immigrants and their money. my impromptu survey of meeting 10 desi's everyday , not even one said that he is really happy with present situation.
So what does all positive thinkers think about it? The same questions were raised yesterday and the thread was deleted and handle was removed.
Just because you have not found a job does not mean other Indians have failed as well.
I have already written elsewhere that every single of my friends found a fantastic job. A success rate of 100%
Tens of thousands have found very good jobs. Just open your eyes and check the offices.
and finally if you think Canada only needs stripers and escorts then what exactly are you doing here???
either your circle consist of 1 or 2 guys to derive a figure of 100% success......or you ar fooling us.........and please let me know where all these thousands of immigrant in fantastic job work and what time of the day.....I have visited a lot of factories but did not find thousands of Indian or Pakistani at commanding level......is there a parrallel canada somewhere, new immigrants take down address of these province, cities, areas, road, plot numbers.......thousands of desi will accept you for what you are........
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Jago
I did not mention 1 or 2 desis
I mentioned a figure of 8.
Beyond that I know of aleast 5 more, each of whom found excelelnt jobs.
I did not follow every one at downtown to see where exactly do they go to?
But have seen personally not one but many, several dozens as a matter of fact that I have or had to to interface with in past 4 years.
And I reiterate there are seevral hundred of them who have found very good jobs.
dhokla-dhokli I am sorry if you find my post to be too personal. I am not denying that for every 1 succesful person, there are at least 5 or 10 that are still struggling. But as pointed out several times, this is a chance for you to come to Canada and prove yourself. No one has forced anyone or promised anyone to come to Canada. We come on our free will and are FREE to leave as well.
The debate or discussion should be about the resons why some have succeeded and others not so that they can do a solid introspection or learn something which they may be missing.
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Orginally posted by Gapodi
Jago
I did not mention 1 or 2 desis
I mentioned a figure of 8.
Beyond that I know of aleast 5 more, each of whom found excelelnt jobs.
I did not follow every one at downtown to see where exactly do they go to?
But have seen personally not one but many, several dozens as a matter of fact that I have or had to to interface with in past 4 years.
And I reiterate there are seevral hundred of them who have found very good jobs.
dhokla-dhokli I am sorry if you find my post to be too personal. I am not denying that for every 1 succesful person, there are at least 5 or 10 that are still struggling. But as pointed out several times, this is a chance for you to come to Canada and prove yourself. No one has forced anyone or promised anyone to come to Canada. We come on our free will and are FREE to leave as well.
The debate or discussion should be about the resons why some have succeeded and others not so that they can do a solid introspection or learn something which they may be missing.
Atleast you have pulled your figure down from thousands to dozens.....now, please try to realise people coming are not in dozens but thousands....so if dozen get jobs after a struggle of 3 -4 years do you rationalize your figure of 100%...............begning of this thread I have quoted " Success at what Cost". If you lost your kids childhood, can you get it back after 3 - 4 years.
Let us think of next step instead of proving your success and my failure....instead, propose ways to go about............ Why successful members are worried of yet to come in immigrants....if condition improves here...it is best for them to wait till then and CIC to realise importance of immigrants.......
Quote your figures with responsibility............
And for discussion limiting to the reasons why some have succeeded and other not.......come forward and give your suggestions other than HRDC and CIC idea of success....we are not here to go back to elementry education........
Some of them like:
Networking........where and when....i know of one place happen.ca they charge you for networking..........
Go to people of your field.......hw....by telemarketing......
Reference......for that you have to devote volunteer hours ( some how I like this idea of getting canadian experience and reference)
help me to grow this list other than attending to stupid HRDC programmes
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"Networking........where and when....i know of one place happen.ca they charge you for networking..........
Go to people of your field.......hw....by telemarketing......
Reference......for that you have to devote volunteer hours ( some how I like this idea of getting canadian experience and reference)"
you know what Jago
After 14 pages of discussion now you are asking the questions that any one trying to find a decent job should have asked. But instead of asking these questions right away please read the articles. read how many found their jobs. and then ask in an another thread how they managed to sneak in. What they had to do in order to get a foothold in the system.
By flaming each other no one is going to help the desis. There were so many nice people on this board who simply have stopped posting because desis dotn appreciate anyone advising them and rather more interested in cheap flaming and personal attacks.
Attending stupid HRDC programmes is terrific waste of time and money. They are meant for people with poor or no english skills, not for the brilliant ones.
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Orginally posted by Gapodi
After 14 pages of discussion now you are asking the questions that any one trying to find a decent job should have asked. .
in the absence of proposal this is the next alternative left with us.....it does not terminate the discussion..........you have wrong habit of jumping to conclusions.......
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By flaming each other no one is going to help the desis. There were so many nice people on this board who simply have stopped posting because desis dotn appreciate anyone advising them and rather more interested in cheap flaming and personal attacks.
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If they are nice why did they leave......u said this forum is also for yet to come immigrants.........fact is, everything has to come back to CIC for the settelment of new comers .........But they do not have a policy in place for that................now, I feel it was stupid for me to spare time for a forum ruled by few pre-assumption members........
Story goes like......When pigeon sees Cat, they tend to close eyes....with an assumption, if they dont see cat neither cat will see them.............
If you refuse to see the problem........things are never going to change.......cat will eat pigeon.......dead pigeon will not speak....and the alive one will think that....duffer did not close his eyes, that is why cat could kill him...........
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