Posted on: 24-01-05 18:59:56
Are you sure Pratik? I always thought that PR cards were now mandatory.
There was a deadline for the existing residents (those who landed before June 28, 2002) to apply for the PR card.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pr-card/prc-process.html
Also, On December 31, 2003, the PR card became the required proof of status document for every permanent resident returning to Canada on a commercial carrier (airplane, boat, train or bus).
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pr-card/prc-about.html
Now to answer bhaumick's question, IMHO,
To enter Canada, u need a PR Card. That's all. U might be asked for additional proof like other photo IDs, like ur SIN/Medical Card, etc,etc...
Many people have dual citizenships, and they just use the passport of the country they are entering to establish their right to enter.
(Just to play it safe, I would advise u to keep ur previous passport with u, just in case they ask how and when u went to US. Though, I doubt that they will ask )
Again, that was IMHO....
bison
Bison --
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Orginally posted by bison
Are you sure Pratik?
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I always thought that PR cards were now mandatory.
PR Card is a good to have thing if someone travels out of Canada pretty often.
For others, a Travel Document serves the same purpose.
See:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pr-card/urgent-cases.html
Towards the end of the article, it talks about Travel Document.
As I said, for all new immigrants, the PR Card is applied automatically.
However, those who landed before 2003, they need to shell out $$ from their own pockets to apply for the PR Card.
A lot of people didn't want to do so (some were close to getting citizenship anyway).
For them (or for someone who hasn't received the PR Card), the Travel Document is the only option.
Quote:SIN, Medical Card, etc. do not prove PR status.
Now to answer bhaumick's question, IMHO,
To enter Canada, u need a PR Card. That's all. U might be asked for additional proof like other photo IDs, like ur SIN/Medical Card, etc,etc...
Neither does PR Card, but if someone has it, they shouldn't need any of those other things.
I carry my OHIP card with me, but I haven't taken out my SIN Card since I got it first.
They shouldn't ask for it when you are re-entering Canada.
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Many people have dual citizenships, and they just use the passport of the country they are entering to establish their right to enter.
How will the immigration officer know whether they are PRs or simply visitors?
I think they will be required to show PR Card or TD if they are landed immigration, even if they have a passport that doesn't need visa.
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PR Card is a good to have thing if someone travels out of Canada pretty often.
For others, a Travel Document serves the same purpose.
See:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pr-card/urgent-cases.html
Towards the end of the article, it talks about Travel Document.
I dont agree with that...
I dont think Temporary Travel document here implies ur IMM1000 record of landing document. They explicity say that its a \"Temporary Travel Document\", which they issue only if it is not possible for them to issue a PR Card before u travel (from http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pr-card/urgent-cases.html). Its issued only on urgent basis.
U cannot travel just on the basis of ur IMM1000 recor d of landing anymore.
Check http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/applications/guides/5529E.html#wp288137
It states there : \"
Note to holders of a:
- Record of Landing (IMM 1000)
- Confirmation of Permanent Residence (IMM 5292)
- Returning Resident Permit
These documents are not valid for travel back to Canada. You require a permanent resident card or a travel document to re-enter Canada by train, plane, boat or bus. \"
Hope that clarifies.
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As I said, for all new immigrants, the PR Card is applied automatically.
However, those who landed before 2003, they need to shell out $$ from their own pockets to apply for the PR Card.
Ur right here.
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A lot of people didn't want to do so (some were close to getting citizenship anyway).
For them (or for someone who hasn't received the PR Card), the Travel Document is the only option.
Ur right in the first line, not in the second
. I think u've confused the temporary travel document and the record of landing to be same.Quote:
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Now to answer bhaumick's question, IMHO,
To enter Canada, u need a PR Card. That's all. U might be asked for additional proof like other photo IDs, like ur SIN/Medical Card, etc,etc...
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SIN, Medical Card, etc. do not prove PR status.
Neither does PR Card, but if someone has it, they shouldn't need any of those other things.
I carry my OHIP card with me, but I haven't taken out my SIN Card since I got it first.
They shouldn't ask for it when you are re-entering Canada.
I didnt say additional photo ID cards establish ur PR residence, but i have heard from lots of people that they do ask u to show some photo id cards. UR drivers license/Medical card/SIN cards are but some examples of some recognized id cards.
PR Card replaces your IMM1000, so it is what establishes ur PR Status
Whether u enter US or u enter Canada, it is advisable to carry additonal photo identity cards.
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Many people have dual citizenships, and they just use the passport of the country they are entering to establish their right to enter.
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How will the immigration officer know whether they are PRs or simply visitors?
I think they will be required to show PR Card or TD if they are landed immigration, even if they have a passport that doesn't need visa.
I was merely highlighting the fact, that when u enter Canada, u need something that allows u to enter Canada (like a Canadian passport), and they dont care about ur US visa
. i.e. U need a valid document that allows u to enter that country. If u have a French passport and a Canadian passport, When u enter Canada, u show a Canadian passport, and when u enter France, u show a French passport. This was in the context of Bhaumicks question cheers,
bisonBison --
Take the IMM100 out of the picture for now.
That document is obsolete, gone - poof !
Within the context of the present circumstances, there are two documents that can be used for re-entering Canada by a PR.
The first document is a PR Card. It is also the preferred method.
However, for those who don't have PR Card (for whatever reaso), they need to use a Travel Document to re-enter Canada.
The TD is indeed a temporary document, unlike the PR Card.
And it is valid for one time travel only.
So a person not having a PR Card can apply for a TD at a foreign consulate for a one-time entry into Canada.
It is not a replacement document for the PR Card, but it's purpose is *only* to re-enter Canada.
Quote:Right.
Orginally posted by bison
I dont think Temporary Travel document here implies ur IMM1000 record of landing document. They explicity say that its a \"Temporary Travel Document\", which they issue only if it is not possible for them to issue a PR Card before u travel (from http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pr-card/urgent-cases.html). Its issued only on urgent basis.
But it is still a valid document for entering Canada.
They may ask why you did not apply for PR Card, but they usually issue the TD without any problems on the same day.
Quote:Right - but the Record of Landing is not the Travel Document.
U cannot travel just on the basis of ur IMM1000 recor d of landing anymore.
The TD is different.
Quote:Read your own quote carefully
These documents are not valid for travel back to Canada. You require a permanent resident card or a travel document to re-enter Canada by train, plane, boat or bus. \"
It says here - permanent resident card or a travel document.
That's what I am talking about.
Does this clarify?
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"Mah deah, there is much more money to be made in the destruction of civilization than in building it up."
-- Rhett Butler in "Gone with the Wind"
I remember when I was re-entering Canada when the PR cards came out, the immigration officer told me , make sure you have a PR card before you leave Canada, because they will not let you board the plane and will not let you into Canada without a PR card.
The CIC Website clearly states that Travel Documents can be used for entering Canada.
People are using it every day (my friends did recently in November).
Go to a consulate and see the number of people applying for Travel Documents every day - those are people who don't have PR Cards.
PR Card is an important document, but it is not the only document that can be used for entering Canada.
I have posted the links in the previous message.
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"Mah deah, there is much more money to be made in the destruction of civilization than in building it up."
-- Rhett Butler in "Gone with the Wind"
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Orginally posted by pratickm
A travel document works equally well if a person does not have the PR card.
Most of the landed immigrants who landed prior to 2003 do not get PR cards automatically.
They can use a travel document to re-enter Canada.
SIN, Medical Card, etc. do not prove PR status.
Neither does PR Card,
Great, so we are talking same stuff here... Potatoes/Patatoes...
Before, u didnt mention that by travel document u mean "Temperory travel document" and that u have to apply for it for ur each visit. Go thru ur earlier posts. BTW, even Record of Landing documents have been called travel documents(permanent ones), hence the confusion.
No confusion anymore, Or is there?
bison
