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RESP   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 08-09-06 17:27:48

WASHINGTON: H-1B visa holders are "taken advantage of" and, contrary to claims by US industry, are paid less salary than similarly qualified American citizens, says a new study.

Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) vice president Phiroz Vandrevala even admitted that his company enjoys a competitive advantage because of its extensive use of foreign workers in the United States on H-1B and L-1 visas, according to the study by IEEE-USA, a unit of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Inc.

"Our wage per employee is 20-25 per cent less than US wages for a similar employee," Vandrevala said.

"Typically, for a TCS employee with five years experience, the annual cost to the company is $60,000-70,000, while a local American employee might cost $80,000-100,000.

"This (labour arbitrage) is a fact of doing work onsite. It's a fact that Indian IT companies have an advantage here and there's nothing wrong in that. The issue is that of getting workers in the US on wages far lower than the local wage rate."

IEEE-USA president Ralph W. Wyndrum, Jr. said proposals now before Congress to raise the H-1B visa cap should be scrapped until significant workforce protections for US and H-1B employees are instituted.

"Not paying market wages to H-1B holders is unfair to both foreign and domestic high-tech workers," Wyndrum said.

"H-1B employees are being taken advantage of, and some US workers' salaries are likely suppressed by the influx of thousands of additional job competitors. The wage problem is one symptom of how deeply flawed the H-1B programme is."

Findings showing H-1B holders earning less than the market wages paid to US technology workers include:

1) Immigrant engineers with H-1B visas may be earning up to 23 per cent less on an average than American engineers with similar jobs, according to documents filed with the US Department of Labor (DOL). Salary data from Labor Condition Applications (LCAs) lends credence to arguments that lower compensation paid to H-1B workers suppresses the wages of other electronics professionals.

2) In spite of the requirement that H-1B workers be paid the prevailing wage, H-1B workers earn significantly less than their American counterparts. On an average, applications for H-1B workers in computer occupations were for wages $13,000 less than Americans in the same occupation and state. Applications for 47 per cent of H-1B computer programming workers were for wages below even the prevailing wage claimed by their employers.

3) Some (H-1B) employers said they hired H-1B workers in part because these workers would often accept lower salaries than similarly qualified US workers; however, these employers said they never paid H-1B workers less than the required wage.

According to IEEE-USA vice president Ron Hira, the concept of "prevailing wages" is worthless as a safeguard for US and H-1B workers.

"Proponents of the H-1B programme say that by law H-1B workers must receive prevailing wages, but this is a legal façade so full of loopholes that it is frequently gamed by employers to pay below-market wages," Hira said.

"This is another myth of the H-1B programme, that prevailing wages are the same as market wages."

A review of the DOL's LCA database for FY 2005 shows some of the well-below-market wages employers have been certified to pay H-1B workers.

Under law, US employers have three options for determining an H-1B employee's prevailing wage. According to the DOL, an employer can request a "prevailing wage determination from the appropriate State Workforce Agency; use a "survey conducted by an independent authoritative source"; or use "another legitimate source of information".

Despite the law's intent, Hira enumerated a few ways companies circumvent the law's prevailing wage requirements when hiring H-1B workers:

* By selecting a survey source with the lowest salaries;
* By misclassifying an experienced worker as entry level;
* By giving the person a lower-paying job title than one reflective of the work to be performed;
* By citing wages for a low-cost area of the country, then sending an employee to a higher-cost area.

One reason it is so easy for employers to underpay H-1B holders is they know how to exploit the loopholes and have almost no chance of ever being investigated, the study noted.

Even if they were investigated, the loopholes are so large most of the employers would likely be found following the letter of the law.

First, DOL's automated review of LCAs is limited to looking for missing information or obvious inaccuracies; no human looks at the applications.

Second, if a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) review finds that an H-1B worker's income on the W-2 form is less than the wage on the original LCA, DHS does not have a way to report the discrepancy to DOL.

"It's a self-policing system that is never actually checked," Hira said. "The law itself is written in a way to invite exploitation. It should be no surprise that firms take advantage of the loopholes."


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naudurivsm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-09-06 12:16:40

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WASHINGTON: H-1B visa holders are "taken advantage of" and, contrary to claims by US industry, are paid less salary than similarly qualified American citizens, says a new study.
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Somehow, I do not agree with this theory, I think is only half the truth.

Here are my observations over the last seven years +

I/we have seen, most of the time the contract rates ( for the guys on Sub-contracting) are much better than the ones on (Full time salaried jobs + benefits taken together).
The issue is whether contracting company (H1B holding company) is paying the consultant reasonably. since some of these big contracitng companies with more than 100+ employees have all those benefits that is Permanent full time employee gets.
On the contrary the smaller and and rouge companies exploit their H1b employees a lot, do not pay them much and so on.

another aspect is there are many H1b guys who work on a percentage or profit sharing basis terms with their H1 holding company, and they make real good money.

On the American citizens - and Tech salaries
In most cases we have seen the Project Managers / Program Managers ( American citizens ) get paid around 120- 160k
where as the same citizens when they do the jobs of developers , programmers and analysts they get around 75-100k only.

I myself have seen this in many client places. and at the same time the H1b guys in the lead roles make even making same or better in most cases.

The case with TCS is different and as everyone knows, how it was paying earlier and how it pays now its consultants.
No comments on that .......

Why I said this as half true. The LCAs that are filed for H1 pertitions, contain the market rate of salary to be paid to the consultant (which is) reasonably
lower when compared to the Salaries of the american counterparts.

But in reality, the H1 guyes get paid better and much more than what is stated in the LCAs or Labor condition petitions.

Eg; In most ( non-TCS) LCA petitions for H1Bs, the salary for an H1 is mentioned in the range of 43k - 60k, and they are actually paid much higher than that.

So I do not think we should generalise their theory.

Any other views ?

Thanks




AlbertaAspirants   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-09-06 12:39:25

H1B Visa Holders salary is less than American and the Immigrants salary is less than Canadians. Salary Community always compares and complaints, Never satisfies......................

For example if some one earns salary of 150 K, he will expect 200 K , after he reaches that level, he will expect 250 K, ................the expectation,comparison is always growing until the retirement.

I know one friend, He started with Rs. 2,250 per month then he reached up to 50K per month before he came to Canada.

In Canada, he started with 30 K , earned 40K and 52 K,Currently with 65 K. Now He is targetting over 100 K.

Employers are always want to make huge profit (either it is owner based company or it is employee owned company) by paying less salary to the employees.

This is sure exploitation, if they pay more salary, then they will be making less profit, they did not start the company for a charity.









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