Learn maths, else Indians will take your job


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Mishtar India   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-04-06 16:35:19

Nice to hear these words of endorsement from the President.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1496994.cms

To most of us it should be a matter of pride that we got our math & science education in India. And I always felt that our maths and science skills are much better than those who study it here. Right from early days the habit of cramming tables, and not using calculators in school has made us inherently much smarter with numbers .
In day to day life when we are faced with a calculation, while others rush to the calculator we have a pretty accurate answers in our head and at times one would blurt out the number and while other do their calculation and confirm what we said was right !!! it makes one feels soooo good ....
This ability is something which is going to stay with us always, and we should thank our indian education system for that.

It is nice to see that our gruelling sessions with calculus , integration ...derivatives, statistics etc is now being appreciated.

For the entreprenuers, maybe this is a good opportunity to start maths , science tutoring in north america ...something like brilliant and aggarwal classes of India. Endorsement from the President is already there !!


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Garvo Gujarati   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-04-06 11:02:09

MI,

It is good to read about this. For centuries we have been good at math. We have to be proud about this. But what about innovations? Why our country is not good at it. I am trying to figure out any good reason for this and couldn't find any. We have been using wheel for a long time, however if you look at the use of wheel here (shopping carts, travelling bags, stroller...) it is amazing how they are using it. Even a smaller item like construction trolley. We have seen people carrying 40-50 kg (may be more) on their back in India. Why? What is a rocket science in inventing a small trolley with a wheel similar to scooter tire? But no, we don't want to do anything on their front. Rather we use to say we are a great country, everything was invented in India centuries ago and we lost it, but it is OK.

The best part of western world is they want to learn. When a person like Bush accepts the fact the we are becoming week in Math, it is a sign of great country. Don't live in past, live in present, look at the future.

On the Bush statement, India will take pride for decades, without doing anything, and one day Americans will be at par on Math with us. At least they are trying for it.

Why do we do not look at our deficiencies and try to improve?


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rajuu   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-04-06 22:12:10

When Arjuna got Matya yantra down in the Dhrupad’s Sabha for the prize of Draupadi , all the kshatriyas present in the court protested . Brahmins present in the court went on rampage in counter protest and in support of Arjuna who was in disguise of a Brahmin (I don’t know the veracity of this act- my grand father told me this story)

In no way India will be benefited. We need not feel like those Brahmins of Dhrupad’s court
Bush has timely warned his country men not to loose the top jobs for the Indians. However West is too pride to tell the world that they want to be/ are the knowledge based societies, as if they don’t have ( have nots )stupids .

Bush himself was in camera of BBC/ CNN (I have forgotten), while contesting for the presidency for the first time , admitting his ignorance of names of the president and prime minister of Pakistan and India respectively. One need to be a presidant in America to know about India.



ramrao   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-04-06 13:06:09

Guys we have long way to go.
Americans have habit of fighting with imaginary target where they consider India as competition in technology.
Do you think we are even close to 1%?
Compare products available in North America with that of India.
Compare innovation new ideas in North America with that of India.
We still have big school dropouts and our normal graduates (B.A, B.Com, B.Sc ) don’t get good jobs as they don’t get any job oriented education.
We need to work very hard as a country.

Ram


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tamilkuravan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-04-06 13:14:21

Ram,
I agree with you 100% . Also remember that USA has around 1/3 rd. of the population of India/ China and not like Canada which has 1/33 rd. of the Indian population. We have a very long way to go except for IT and IT support facilities. We need to give decent jobs to Arts and Science grads. and we need to remove poverty. To me it seems like the impossible but hey! who would have thought of the IT boom in india 12 years back? Where are we in just 12 years with the same corrupt govt.., red tape, govt. policy's etc...
Just see b'lore airport? it is a very worst airport. Very small with just one baggage check line and B'lore is the silicon valley of India. We need to upgrade, spend on essentials etc...
Just my peeve and views.
TK


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ramrao   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 22-04-06 14:24:19

I am hopeful as now government is also doing something.
Indian Government signed an agreement with Hyderabad based company to upgrade Mumbai and Delhi airport and I think they will upgrade all other important airports as well.
Government should also improve railway infrastructure. You may post your suggestions if you have any regarding railway infrastructure at http://www.irsuggestions.org/
You may also write to PM at http://pmindia.nic.in/write.htm
I see we have opportunity to make money in Pharmaceuticals area, medical outsourcing, tourism, automobile and off course Engineering goods.

Ram


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Mishtar India   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 23-04-06 22:27:52

Quote:
Originally posted by Garvo Gujarati
Why do we do not look at our deficiencies and try to improve?



Yes we must look at our deficiencies and continue to improve always. Sometimes with even small small achievements we start gloating in pride and that marks the end of any efforts for improvements.

Having said that, I feel that just as we have to learn a lot from the west , those here have a lot to learn from our Indian or say eastern cultures. I do think Indians are very innovative in their own ways. With the limited resources that we have to share with a billion people and the way we do it in really innovative ways is also commendable.

The innovative-ness of indian minds should not get overshadowed by poverty which we see everywhere. I agree that simple things like a luggage trolleis , or wheel barrow are not used but then how will the coolies or majdoors get their jobs. If tea at railway stations is served in clay "kullars" and not polysterene cups it is because there are millions of potters who earn their livelihoods from it . India's huge population is standing in its way of improvement in many feilds.

But even in the face of illeteracy and poverty there is plenty of innovation in ways and means in which people find their livelihoods , wether is the dabbawalas in mumbai to the millions of handicrafts workers across the country producing beautiful craft items with their bare hands....I feel indians are very good at making the est of the resources we have without wasting it.
The way indians manage with limited water, electricity, money and every other resource if a person in the west is made to face a similar situation i dont think they can manage as well as indians do.

I hope and pray that with econimic prosperity we will begin to see improvements all areas of life.
Remember the great maths guru Ramanujan, he could write his work on scraps of papers but it does not reduce his genius in any way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramanujan


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