best not to marry from abroad


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new_comer   
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Location: toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-03-07 10:30:16

Regardless, This is always going to happen, as for example, if one goes to India, they do stand a chance of exploring unlimited opportunities in making the big decisions, compare to Canada..also within my knowledge, all the cases of overseas merriage have been successful, including myself..and of course, marriage is always a gamble, don't know what u r getting into until u r in!!! So, do not generalize, this may prove misleading to the generation who is yet to explore the horizon...In my opinion, it is upto you and us to carry on as best as you can!!



kublakhan26   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-03-07 11:43:30

Hi new_comer,

The Canadian Immigration System is allowing people to come here. That is why it is happening. If the rules are enforced and investigated, more people will not attempt to commit fraud. Secondly, the law is one-sided, and it leaves the Cdn sponsor crippled. Many people are aware that spousal ponsorship is one of the quickest ways to get into Canada, and a lot of uneducated people know that it will be difficult to get through the points system, so they make up fake degrees and pretend like they're educated and smart, but once they come to Canada, they leave. This type of things are occuring weekly. Laws can also be strengthed to ensure that this type of fraud doesn't occur.

Secondly, I am not generalizing, and I am not trying to say that all marriages occur this way. And, there's nothing better that I like, than for Indians to go abroad and marry some nice, traditional girls and live happily ever after. So many people, including outside of South Asia, are being taken advantage of.



kublakhan26   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 18-03-07 11:47:07

Many people are very ashamed, so that is the main reason why you have not heard about this type of fraud.

There are thousands of victims in Canada. Things ae being done about this problem slowly. There have been many newspaper stories and headlines:

http://stopmarriagefraud.ca/articles.html
http://fraudmarriage.com/RelatedNews.htm

You will hear about this problem on TV, sooner or later.

Generally speaking, I think arranged marriages can still work internally within the country between citizens of the same country, but as for marriages abroad, one has to be careful, and from the monsterous stories that I heave heard, I do not recommend marrying abroad. Some people want to come to Canada, so that they will be able to get immigration and bring their parents, work, etc. This is a different issue than marriage fraud, but you know, I would not feel good if I knew that my wife married me for her own pesonal gains. That, itself, is fraud also.

I am happy for you. You might be one of the luckiest people. I wish I could find a girl from India, who has moral values, and can assure me a lifetime of happiness. Indian girls in Canada are a different entity of their own, for the most part.



aum_2006   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 01-04-07 15:57:10

Hi Kubla,

The issue of marriage fraud / 498a has definitely caused a great deal of concern for our community, as there have been so many horror stories. As Canadians, we should still be able to protect ourselves when going abroad to marry. If you are going to ever go to India or any other country to get married, I feel it is best to go through a lawyer, and have the sponsored person sign an affidavit / pre-nuptial agreement to protect yourself. The 3 year undertaking agreement from the Immigration rules still holds, but according to the agreement, if the sponsored person leaves the relationship within 3 years lets say, the person must agree to pay back all of the expenses + emotional damages. If the Canadian sponsor was abusive, that is an exception. But, stipulations, like these in the prenuptial agreement / affidavit can scare off the fraudulent person - if they may have intentions of commiting fraud. It is difficult to tell what the foreign partner may have in mind, since so many are commiting frauds nowadays. There are groups in Canada who are trying to stop this inhuman practice. One of those members is close to getting his wife deported, as she only lived with him for such a short time period.



kublakhan26   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-05-07 19:52:32

Very sad video on Immigration fraud:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BMAIueUB-o



morning_rain   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 19-05-07 20:40:50

Quote:
Originally posted by kublakhan26

I am happy for you. You might be one of the luckiest people. I wish I could find a girl from India, who has moral values, and can assure me a lifetime of happiness. Indian girls in Canada are a different entity of their own, for the most part.



Yet if you look at this thread itself, isnt it women from india with the so called "moral values" and the automatic assurance of "a lifetime of happiness" the ones who also marry for convenience?

As a "indian girl from Canada" i take offense to your comment. What is the difference pray tell in morality between Indian and Canadian born women?


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Manjeet   
Member since: Aug 03
Posts: 283
Location: Toronto ON Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-05-07 10:34:12

Typical perception by Indians of Indo-Canadian girls (Born and Brought up in Canada etc) is of more of westernized attitude. Which generally doesn't have respect for Indian traditions. In other words loose ties because of demand for "personal space". Which is not a great ingredient for successful marriage.

This perception is also shared by men brought up in Canada etc. Any girl who is brought up here and has true family values is exception and man who is married to her is considered "lucky" as he has best of both worlds.


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Originally posted by morning_rain


Yet if you look at this thread itself, isnt it women from india with the so called "moral values" and the automatic assurance of "a lifetime of happiness" the ones who also marry for convenience?

As a "indian girl from Canada" i take offense to your comment. What is the difference pray tell in morality between Indian and Canadian born women?


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