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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
The Link lies here - > http://in.rediff.com/news/2006/aug/04look1.htm (Rediffmail)
Chennai-based devotee has offered two diamond ear coverings (karunapathras) worth Rs 1.1 crore to the Sri Venkateswara Temple at Tirupati.
The devotee, who preferred not to disclose his identity, handed over the jewels to Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanam's Executive Officer A P V N Sarma on Thursday night.
The jewels will adorn the lord during Brahmotsavam in August.
The same devotee had offered 'Lakshmi Sahasranamakasula Haram' in gold worth Rs 37 lakh to Sri Padmavathi Temple at Tiruchanoor on Thursday.
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While in no way do i want to interfere in this devotee's wish, would it have served a better purpose if this money had been given to the upliftment of the poor in India? Wouldn't Lord Venkateshwara have preferred it this way?
TK A
Afternote :
Loyola college and MCC are christian colleges but they accept everyone based on merit. Sankaracharya studied in Loyola colege and soe he can tell the exact story. The reasonwhy many christians are there is b'cos in Tamil nadu , majority of christians do well in their exams an d get good marks. Since Christian colleges are some of the best educational institutions, you find them more there. Everyone pays the same fees and hence there is no concession if you are a Hindu, sikh or an athist.
Since i am from Trichy, i can list the following organisations in Trichy :
Campion higher sec. school- Boys only (Catholic) - 90 % of students are Hindu's
Vestry (protestant) - 98 % of students are Hindu's
St. Joseph's convent (for girls only)- 90% are hindu;s
Bishop Heber college - > 80-90% of students are Hindu's
St. Joseph's college -> 80-85% are Hindu's.
I have seen that the faculty/ teachers are predominantly Christian. This has nothing to do with prejudice. When these teachers were recruited in the 1950's , there were a few Hindu teachers/ facuulty only and hence the reason for the low Hindu faculty population. I have seen many christian boys / girls being admitted to these schools/ colleges by recommendation by the christian faculty/ teachers. This has to do w/ friendship/ corruption etc.. and nothing else.
Hope Desi Raja gets more clear.
I completed from New College. After scoring 97% , I got the admission on the last day as they can even consider my application only after all the muslims were admitted.. Now don't ask me why I didn't apply anywhere else.. I did but being a Brahmin has its own disadvantages even if you are from a Middle class family !!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Desi Raja
Nice stats but not relevant !!!!!!
To what? I was not trying to be relevant to the OP. I dont care where someone puts their money...a church cross or temple dieties earrings. Its their wish and I dont think anybody has the right to second guess/judge that.
You were right in calling out our resident evil
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Originally posted by Desi Raja
Easiest name coming to my mind.. Loyola College , Madras Christian college and The New College for muslims - all in Chennai.. 99% of the seats are for christians and Muslims and only a few seats for other religions..
Please provide links...I dont think the 99% Christian reservation is economically or politically sustainable in India. Like Crenshaw points the links pointing to the alumini shows a majority of hindu names within. Now you are going about using Christians and muslims interchangably like you did with Christianity and the vatican. AGAIN...most protestants and other sects reject the Pope and the vatican.
http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=20610
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Originally posted by Desi RajaWhy not the Vatican consider giving money to the upliftment of the poor instead of building fancy churches , building colleges exclusive for christians and paying organisations to buy the poor to join Christianity????
You are asked to pay donations to get admitted to these catholic schools. This is particularly true for schools for ahmedabad, rajkot and bhuj which I know personally. (No I dont have relevant links to prove this).
Apart from the above, the quality of education is far better in my opinion at these schools, I went to a catholic school myself and there is no school in gujarat that has 99% christians in them, so whoever's claiming that is smoking something funny. The only advantage is christians dont have to pay donations to get in.
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Originally posted by Azazf
You are asked to pay donations to get admitted to these catholic schools. This is particularly true for schools for ahmedabad, rajkot and bhuj which I know personally. (No I dont have relevant links to prove this).
Apart from the above, the quality of education is far better in my opinion at these schools, I went to a catholic school myself and there is no school in gujarat that has 99% christians in them, so whoever's claiming that is smoking something funny. The only advantage is christians dont have to pay donations to get in.
I studied in a catholic run institution as did my brothers. My parents had to pay a donation for all of us(inspite of us being catholics). In some parishes Non-catholics have to pay higher donations in others the amount is standard. Hindu run schools have a donation system too. The more reputed the school the higher the donations.
Its bollocks that the vatican funds any such educational institution nowadays. It cannot afford to. Catholic churches depend on their parishes/donations for survival. Due to low attendance rates and catholic churches are closing down in NA. Dioceses(administrative territorial unit administrated by a bishop) are filing for bankruptcy all over the place(google 'catholic church and bankruptcy').
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TKji
By asking the subject question, you have already interfered with the devotee's wish. It is the devotee's money and devotee's God, and I do not wish to make adverse comments about it. But I do wish to remind you of a famous Tamil saying "Kuzhandayum Dheyvamum Kondaadum Idathile" (can roughly translate as children and God prosper/flourish whether they are celebrated). Do we count on money when we buy some toy for our small children? When God is celebrated the land prospers. The returns may be intangible like good rains, good crops, good harvest and generally good thoughts and deeds among the people of the land, irrespective of their religion.
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Posted on: 08-08-06 11:39:07
Desi raja,
I have heard that Islamic minority institutions have some special seats/ quota's for the upliftment of people following their faith. But there is no Islamic school/ college which takes in only 100% people from their religion. But then, these are minority institutions and they are allowed by law to cater to people from their religion. But if you are peeved by that how much more should you be peeved by Catholic schools in Canada admitting only catholics (and not anyone else) and being funded by Canadian taxpayer's money.
As another member said it , i paid Rs. 500 donation (in 1983) to get into a protestant school (Being a protestant myself) and saw other Hindu/ Muslim people come in with Rs. 50 donation or no donation at all b'cos they new a staff / VIP/ Headmaster.
There is another reason why people with high marks are refused admission in Arts college. If you have 90% marks and seek admission into B.Sc. physics , then the arts college will hesitate to give you admission ( and they maynot know if you are a Bhramin or a SC) b'cos they know that after 1 or 2 months, you willl leave for Engineering seat and the college will have to scramble a lot to have to fill in your seat b'cos after 2 months of the academic year no one will be there to join B.Sc..
When i finished my 12th. there was a rule in Bishop Heber College, Trichy (A christian institution) that people with above 85% marks will not be admitted to B.Sc. (comp. sci., Physics, Chem., Electronics, Maths., Stats.) unless the principal knows someone to vouch for you that you will not leave. If i was a Bhramin with 89% marks and subject to this rule, i should not shout that this was due to discrimination. It was more a common sense rule.
My father was kicked out from a Christian institution b'cos of his rowdyness (being a christian with a very powerful recoomendation background). He had to do his PUC (12th) from Jamal Mohd. College of Trichy (An Islamic minority institution). If my Dad says that all Christian institution are discriminating against Christians, Donot you find that to be an idiotic statement.
In India, You get admission / seats in Minority institutions, not based on your religion but more based on a combination of Marks, Donations, recommendation, cunningness etc...
Hope DesiRaja understands and backtracks his blanket statements.
TK A
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