'Unfortunate' is an understatement....


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jake3d   
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Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-10-06 11:00:43

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Originally posted by Surti


Some anti-Gujarati people are interesting in keeping things live those are five years old. Have you heard about any violence in Gujarat after that?

Do remember, that Akshardham was attacked by terrorists, about 18 people have been killed?????? Did Gujarat reacted after that? Not a single incident!! Itsn't it a sing of responsible state? But no, you guys will prefer to speak about Godhara but not Akshardham...... It was only after 6 months of Godhra.



The ram mandir existed centuries ago but it still elicits passions for reconstructing the same.

Its been 50 years since the Holocaust. For people who suffered and lost their loved ones in the same, its not long enough. Germany is now on a different path. Remembering the holocaust, does not take away from Germanys current credibility NOR its achievements since then.

Its important to remember so it does not happen again. If you do not think so, you will have good company like that of Ahmednejad and others who say that its time to forget the holocaust OR even deny that it happened.


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Maharaj   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-10-06 11:40:04

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Originally posted by jake3d

Its important to remember so it does not happen again.




Yes, its good to Remember for the Reason. I haven't forgot it.

But that doesn't mean, we discuss that. Nobody can Justify - we will hear Excuses. This happened because of that - that happened because of that - and story continues. Nobody has learnt so far. There are so many things that people have not understand.

I can't Join them - I can't Beat them ... I try to Ignore them. I try to make a point to loved ones who wants to understand. But beyond that I have no energy.


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BlueLobster   
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Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-10-06 19:43:59

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Originally posted by jake3d

Its important to remember so it does not happen again.




I'm with you on it. I saw the whole documentary and was moved tremendously, I think GG removed it because of Maharaj's passionate plea. For the record, I would not have. (Hey, we can disagree too :) )

The truth, however painful, needs to be told. Its a very well made documentary. Horrific crimes were committed and there's no justification whatsoever. This is a face of Gujarat that I had never seen before, despite being a Gujarati.

I emailed the link to a friend who replied with a question "When will a muslim guy make such a documentary on Kashmir?". And I can understand that sentiment too.

I don't have any hopes of this vicious cycle ending....as tragic as it is.







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jake3d   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-10-06 19:53:46

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Originally posted by BlueLobster

I emailed the link to a friend who replied with a question "When will a muslim guy make such a documentary on Kashmir?".



OR on the abduction and killing of innocents in various places including Iraq in the name of their religion.

Unfortunately, this documentary is probably going to be used more as a propaganda weapon to blame the hindus. Likewise, Some Hindus are going to react defensively with billegerent justification and other defensive methods.

However, as long as a few of us can use it for self-retrospection... its probably worth it. Thats what probably separates the civilized from the uncivilized.


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Thunder Desi   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-10-06 20:15:22

I would like Muslims living outside of Kashmir in other parts of India stand up and tell Islamic militants in Kashmir - that Kashmir belongs to India and to people of all religions just like every other part of India.


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Y-me   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-10-06 23:31:26

Jake, I liked your very thoughtful views/responses to the topic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IatyFUDTRAs

If one wants to give a message it must be a message of love, a message of truth....

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