Rs 1-crore pay not music to IIM-B graduate's ears


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morning_rain   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-07 23:57:30

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Originally posted by jake3d

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Originally posted by morning_rain

Did you know that the web definition for the word "caliber" is also the diameter of a tube or gun barrel?

:D



:D .

An unrelated aside...did you notice that my spelling of the word is from the Bards english? You are using the American way. Just thought it was interesting because whenever I read it the American way it just 'feels' wrong. For a minute I thought all of you are spelling it wrongly.



Ok now you have made me hijack this thread with a huge deviation. Please dont say i did it the american way *horrors* :D
Calibre, colour, theatre, metre.. phew.

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morning_rain   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-02-07 00:12:12

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Originally posted by Fido

As Alexm says lumanaries in any discipline leave a mark .But it depends how much valuable that mark is for humanity . We can sure live w/o a Michelangelo or Bach or Beethoven for in your own words J3D , they are pastimes best enjoyed @ leisure .

But things that make you earn bread , make the society survive and develop , medicine , engineering to name a few are critical for humanity s survival.... so which skills are superior .....?? technical of course .

I have known ppl who have had great artistic ability , but have kept it aside as a hobby in favor of a more rewarding and contributing technical career .

Of course there s no denying the fact that theres a contribution by ppl in Humanities but what Alexm and I are trying to project is that that contribution is minuscule and doesnt make a critical difference to our lives ..... an interesting example would be any form of music which one of the biggest artiste composed v/s smthing technically invented such as emails / internet ............ can there be a debate about which is more beneficial.

Most of the subjects and courses that I have known have the following order of exclusiveness .... if you are a Science guy , you are eligible for Humanities and Commerce .... but if you are a Humanities students , it is assumed by selection criterion that your calliber is not good enough for sciences ..... it may not work for exceptions , but for the majority its a norm and hence a rule.....so which is more important ?

I do not think that this issue is at all debatable as why the OP has come as a surprise is because a technical person has proceeded on with her choice of Humanities ......... raising eyebrows .




To me, these arguements sound 'all or nothing'. Is that how you meant them?

You mentioned humanity's survival. A huge part of humanity's survival is communication/community. It is parenting - it is peace in the world. For all the technology that is floating out there in the universe, our world is becoming less safe, less peaceful, more expensive, more isolated. Yes technology is very important but has not yet been able to cure cancer/diabetes etc. Its sad but mental health problems are on the rise in 1st world countries - yet so is technology. For every positive there is a down side to so much technology.

I can sit here online and communicate with virtual strangers like all of you - but I dont know who my next door neighbors are. Is this what technology has given to humanity?

The internet is a tool. It is JUST a tool. Before Internet, people used to send old fashioned letters - now called "Snail mail". I would love to receive snail mail. who has the time? I remember the excitement of getting a letter in the mailbox years ago (and im not that old). Today's society cant wait 2 minutes for a reply email (and I know im one of them).


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Fido   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-02-07 07:58:58

If ppl do not know how to use internet , they are either very old or illiterate not to be talked off........ like our average villager ...but then to him also electricity and power makes more sense than Kishore Kr or Mohd Rafi.....

And if someone feels Internet is just a tool ......... instead of saying that it is THE TOOL ...... I am afraid we are on totally different pages and I better not put any more arguments ...........Imagine ... it used to take 20 days for news to travel at one time ..... with the Internet it takes an instant ...... thats technology and its contribution to our everyday life ......

I think comparing the 2 is like comparing the pizza with the topping...... which is more important and basic to needs ....... pizza of course ..topping is an add on and just an option which can never take over the pizza and the need for satisfying hunger.

Bridge and clothes are meant for usage .... their aesthatic appeal is secondary ...... How many ppl know an Armani ..... but evryone uses season specific clothes ........who cares much for an Armani...... even for those who do .... try asking them would you wear an Armani shirt or a normal jacket in winters and its obvious what the reply would be .

Technology doesn't depend on ppl of Humanities but ppl of Humanities depend on Technology .............. an ordinary person also enjoys Internet / mp3 player but ask AR Rehman who much technology brings a difference to his work.

And to the MP3 player remark let me assure you I am an avid music buff and have an mp3 player also ......... but haven't used it for the past 6 months as that is secondary to my settling down in career and do the little primary contribution to society that my job brings ........

Humanities is secondary and can be done without unlike Sciences which are life giving and life supporting .......... We can argue and mis argue but the facts are undebatable.


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jake3d   
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Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-02-07 08:25:09

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Originally posted by Fido
Technology doesn't depend on ppl of Humanities but ppl of Humanities depend on Technology .............. an ordinary person also enjoys Internet / mp3 player but ask AR Rehman who much technology brings a difference to his work.




AR Rahman has graduated with a degree in western classical music and also studied Carnatic music. Both existed long before the internet or the Technology that Rahman currently uses. Rahman obviously knows that the technology makes his works easier. The technology is the topping...music the Pizza . He is called a musical director not a technical director. I dont think he'd consider himself a technical guy rather than a musician.
Theres a saying that Its the silence between the notes that make the music.
Similarly in computer graphics, companys give you preference if you have a bg in fine arts. The artists in video games make as much or more than the coders behind the same. They say that one can easily teach people how to use the tool...but teaching them to draw is much more difficult. I agree.

Similarly, any one who writes an e-mail is not a writer. Nor is an e-mail written over a blackberry better than one written on a laggardly i386. Technology is only a tool that makes our life better. Humanities(religion/culture/relationships/communication/arts etc) similarly makes our life worth living. Humans have always relied on the humanities to enhance our life and infuse it with meaning...our dependence on technology(computers) to such an extent is only recent. Nevertheless there is no arguing that it is now an integral part of our life and only gains more importance each passing day. However its still a tool :D ...a really good one...but still a tool. Also the lines between the tool and the user are only blurring with the use of nanotech and advances in medical implants etc.



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