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Posted on: 23-03-07 12:05:28
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Originally posted by morning_rain
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As for continuing lineage, I think it's a deeper issue in that you as an individual don't want to die and not leave anything of yourself behind...but if you have children, well that's your legacy isn't it? But I think that's deep biological stuff that is inbedded in us.
Hi Pink Panther,
Thanks for your reply. I think there are also other ways to leave a legacy. What about neices/nephews? What about leaving something to your community or country? What about creating something that generations of people will use/read/rely on?
just arguements for friday morning!
True, there are other ways of leaving a legacy like you mention above...I'm not sure how the average person would make a big difference in their own community that would go on after they died...that's something to think about!
I love my nephew to pieces...but I consider him to be my brother's 'legacy'. Wow this has opened up a whole can of worms for me now! If I were to die today, how would people remember me...or what would they remember me by?
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well my observation is thus ...
people who are more educated tend to marry late in their lives and also have less children
and if the female is more educated the less children she will be interested in bearing ( may be due to career reasons )
also people who are less educated tend to have more children
less educated people tend to marry early in life ....
now for poor people I guess to make babies is the only recreation ...
peopl who have enough money have other recreational activities ....
or is it too expensive to raise children in western soceities ......
OF COURSE EXCEPTIONS ARE THERE ALWAYS !!!
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Originally posted by Pink Panther
Quite right! I guess the growing trend of not having kids will have a major impact on our future.
I'm not sure what the main reason for not having kids is?
Do you think it's selfish to not want kids and to concentrate on your own career/life?
when you die nobody remembers you expect your immediate blood relatives, so it does not matter if you leave a legacy or not. Nobody remembers who their Great Grand father or the people before him where so all this talk of legacy is just bu** S**t.
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I'm not sure what the main reason for not having kids is?
Do you think it's selfish to not want kids and to concentrate on your own career/life?
I dont think its selfish if its not on ones list of priorities. It would probably be selfish if one had a kid under such conditions. As such its an individual choice. The individual will shoulder the loss or benefit of that choice now and in the future. Note that individual choices are open to reconsideration with changes in the individuals thought process and priorities.
If most individuals in society are making that certain choice out of their own freewill...that society itself is evolving sociologically to another state. In that case that society will face the consequence or chose to rectify that choice. e.g: immigration, testtube babies etc.
I dont think its good or bad until one of the choices, is defined as being universally applicable as the right choice.
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Posted on: 23-03-07 13:06:41
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Originally posted by Pink Panther
So if the social security system cannot be sustained...people will probably have to work even into their old age to care for themselves adequately.
A case of reaping what we sow OR is it not reaping what we dont sow?
Ofcourse we can always import future generations of workers...afterall, thats how we immigrants got here.
Quite right! I guess the growing trend of not having kids will have a major impact on our future.
I'm not sure what the main reason for not having kids is?
Do you think it's selfish to not want kids and to concentrate on your own career/life?
For arguements sake: isnt it selfish to want to have kids so they can take care of you???
What about those situations where one cannot afford to have children (unless they sacrifice themselves to the point of having no life of their own)??
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Posted on: 23-03-07 13:07:56
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Originally posted by Pink Panther
True, there are other ways of leaving a legacy like you mention above...I'm not sure how the average person would make a big difference in their own community that would go on after they died...that's something to think about!
I love my nephew to pieces...but I consider him to be my brother's 'legacy'. Wow this has opened up a whole can of worms for me now! If I were to die today, how would people remember me...or what would they remember me by?
there is a book out there called "Baby not on board".
Its a good light read. It talks about other ways to leave a legacy!!
Look at what Oprah's doing..of course we dont have her billions ...
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I always thought it was in India that there was more pressure from family to have kids. You have to follow the plan...2 yrs of marriage, then first kid, then 2-3 yrs, then 2nd kid.
It also seems to me that in a lot of Indian (arranged) marriages kids are a filler. What I mean is that after a few years of marriage people need something to keep them busy so kids are a good option. I saw a couple who literally didn't have much to say to each other after they'd put their kids to sleep, which was quite sad.
For those who genuinely want kids, it's great. I don't think everyone does, but such an opinion is viewed as 'wierd' in India. My wife and I have seen plenty of our friends here in North America who are delaying kids. They feel their life is fulfilling without children. I also happen to feel the same; there is no void if a couple does not have children.
Of course, family in India will do usual guilt trip....children are a gift from God etc etc. It's very difficult to resist such pressure. It's easier to escape from all this here in North America
