The point I am trying to make is that titles have no merit like manager , director expecially when you have lots of folks out there making more money with minimum responsibility and minimum involvement on the job.
Hi,
I would not read too much into the facial expressions. Unless you are an expert in that particular field there is a big chance that you may be mistaken. If you misread and get nervous it is only going to make matters worse. Having just given a client interview myself here are my 2 cents. In my case I was making a switch from development to business analyst role.
1. Your answers should suit the position you are applying for. You cannot plan to remain a techie guy if you are interviewing for a team lead role.
2. These questions are normally asked at the end of the interview because the interviewer has run out of the important things to ask you. Which means that this is not a hot button issue for him/her and any standard answer should suffice.
3. Employers on an average do not like very senior techie guys who plan to stay in the technology area. The common perception is that why should I pay extra for a programmer with 12 year experience when a 5 year experience will suffice. In that case you really need to showcase your technological superiority and convince them that you can bring much more to the table than any other guy.
All the best for your upcoming interview.
Souvik
But why would he pay extra ~ he might get an extra experienced guy coming for the same salary .
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Always have a short term (0 to 3 years)/medium term (5-10 years)/ and a long term (10-20 years) career plan. Typically in an Indian/USA situation you finish your graduation at around 22 years and a MBA by 24 years of age. Then you enter an organization and build your career so that you become a manager between the ages of 28 to 35 years; you should be a General Manager by 38 to 40 years and you should be the President/Director of your company by 45 in age. If you do not reach these land mark in your career you've missed the boat. After the age of 45 you would be an also ran, over looked and micro managed by a young MBA. This leads to lot of frustration.
The situation you described is typical for most high achievers in India (though, not the U.S, IMO) For the North American perspective you simply need to add 5-7 years to the age milestones that you described. Case in point is the MBA degree which is looked upon as an entry level position in the Indian job market, but as mid-level lateral or upward career move for most N.American professionals.
Location: British Columbia
Posted on: 26-03-07 11:48:24
I disagree that because the interviewer/employer has run out of important questions that they ask about your future goals/aspirations.
This is actually a very important question. They want to understand your goals in terms of your own career goals and how you can see yourself making higher goals within the company. If you tell them you want to remain a 'techie', what you are doing is telling them that you dont plan to grow/learn/change and aspire for anything higher. In other words - you are just going to put in enough effort to keep your job, but not reach for anything greater.
You dont have to have a set game plan ie/ I will be in a management position within 7.5 years. However you can indicate that you want to gain corporate programming experience in a large company like XYz (ie the company youare interviewing for) so that you can become a project manager or team leader.
Having goals but also being flexible and open to new experiences is what you want to convey.
If asked "where do you see yourself in five years", dont say "in your job"
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Every time we talk about growth one question often comes to my mind ~
Where does a skilled surgeon find himself after 10 years .... ??
He still remains in the same OT I guess and doesnt move to managerial positions .
Similarly why cant programmers / Sys Admins be expected to just remain that coders and admins ?? Why does the market expect them to "grow"
Cant a person just remain a programmer or DBA even after 15 years od experience and what wrong with that ? Maybe he s more skilled than others due to his experience and interest ....
A general question which often comes to my mind
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Location: British Columbia
Posted on: 26-03-07 12:29:37
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Originally posted by Fido
Every time we talk about growth one question often comes to my mind ~
Where does a skilled surgeon find himself after 10 years .... ??
He still remains in the same OT I guess and doesnt move to managerial positions .
Similarly why cant programmers / Sys Admins be expected to just remain that coders and admins ?? Why does the market expect them to "grow"
Cant a person just remain a programmer or DBA even after 15 years od experience and what wrong with that ? Maybe he s more skilled than others due to his experience and interest ....
A general question which often comes to my mind
Good question.
Growth is possible even if one wishes to remain in the same job and do it with competency and skill. A surgeon can see himself/herself growing to be a "Top" surgeon or can aspire to be 'the best of the best' in 10 years (to follow your example).
You can remain a programmer or you can go on to become a senior programmer or Chief Technical officer. You can tell an interviewer that you plan to remain on top of your trade by ensuring your skills are up to date and that you are the best you can be. You can also offer to mentor other programmers and take on additional responsibilities as required.
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