Can someone explain to me why Dravid did not enforce the follow-on?


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pratickm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-08-07 11:39:52

That's what I meant when I said - It's not Englad that drew the match - India drew the match for their own reasons.

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Originally posted by Maharaj
Consider some facts
1. Recent Second Inning batting of Indian Stars on 5th Day Wicket
2. Zaheer was not 100%
3. This Team had some away test victories but not Series. This time around Series was there to be taken by Sacrificing the Test (for Bigger Cause :))

I can understand the reasons and decision. Having said that, I still will say that I don't agree to it. But who on earth cares. Look at the picture- they are Happy.



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BlueLobster   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-08-07 12:44:56

With the rationale Dravid is using to defend his decision, its no wonder it took 21 years to win a test series in England. I wonder what school they teach such lame-ass defeatist complacent psychology in.

oh well, here's to Australia being the #1 team in the world for the next 300 years. And we'll win when we get lucky.


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mumdxbcan   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-08-07 22:36:24

Why everyone is Complaining about Dravid?

Just enjoy this moment. India has won Series after long time.

To understand why Dravid took decision, one has consider many things.
Just read his Interview after match. He told what was the situation of his team & in dressing room

One thing is sure, Dravid will not take any decision which is not good for team. He is real thinker..

CONGRATULATION TO INDIAN TEAM



bouy   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-08-07 06:59:12

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Originally posted by mumdxbcan

Why everyone is Complaining about Dravid?

Just enjoy this moment. India has won Series after long time.

To understand why Dravid took decision, one has consider many things.
Just read his Interview after match. He told what was the situation of his team & in dressing room

One thing is sure, Dravid will not take any decision which is not good for team. He is real thinker..

CONGRATULATION TO INDIAN TEAM



People will complain no matter what. They think Indian team in Australia or SA. In world cup didnt we see what indian team is capable of?

I still think that indian batting line up is worst in the world and as a captain you wont take any chance because you know your players.

As dravid said its easy to make commets sitting in your living room.

I think it was well deserved series victory. Cheers.

CONGRATULATION TO INDIAN TEAM


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Pramod Chopra   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-08-07 09:03:40

Now a new twist:

http://www.samachar.com/showurl.php?rurl=http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=90866&news=Zaheer%20takes%20on%20Dravid,


In case the link does not work, here is the full story


Zaheer takes on Dravid, says 'I was not tired'

Agencies
Posted online: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 at 1515 hours IST
Updated: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 at 1522 hours IST

London/New Delhi, August 15: Indian skipper Rahul Dravid, already under attack for his timidity in not enforcing the follow-on against England in the third cricket Test at The Oval, has more embarrassment with his pace spearhead Zaheer Khan contradicting his claim that the reason for his decision was that bowlers were tired.

Zaheer, who took 18 wickets to emerge as the Man-of-the-Series, said in London, "as far as I am concerned, I have given my everything to this series. I don't think I was tired or anything, not really".

Zaheer's disclosure is bound to strengthen the criticism that Dravid had not enforced the follow-on despite a 319-run lead over England because he wanted to play absolutely safe, an argument that flies in the face of any cricketing logic.

After choosing to bat a second time, India got a fright when reduced to 11-3 before Dravid consumed 96 balls to make a laborious 12 runs and Ganguly hit an excellent 57 to put the team beyond danger.

A stubborn Dravid has stood by his decision, arguing that he knew his bowlers well and that they were tired. This has now been dismissed by Zaheer in an interview to a TV channel.

In fact, Zaheer had bowled 22 overs in England's first innings, taking 3-32, R P Singh had bowled 18 overs, Sreesanth 21 and Kumble 29.1 -- a total of 103.1 overs. In comparison, England's four main bowlers Ryan Sidebottom (32 overs), James Anderson (40), Chris Tremlett (40) and Monty Panesar (45) i.e. a total of 170 overs.

Zaheer's comments prompted former India wicketkeeper and former selection committee chairman Kiran More to say that it showed there was a lack of communication in the Indian dressing room.

'I am very surprised that Zaheer made this statement after the captain took a stand in a press conference. I think there is a lack of communication in the dressing room,' More said.

'What Dravid did made history but I think it was a mistake by Dravid for not giving them the follow-on. It's a wonder to me, it would have been a greater feeling to have won the series 2-nil,' he said.

Legendary off-spinner Erapalli Prasanna was also critical of Dravid's decision, saying the excitement of the series win had been greatly diluted by not wrapping it up 2-0.

'I don't think there was any real danger of India losing the match by batting last. I don't see England having taken any big lead to put pressure. Having taken such a big first innings lead, Dravid should have enforced the follow-on,' Prasanna said.

The argument that the bowlers were tired also does not hold water. They are playing a Test match and the bowlers are expected to bowl long spells. It's not a ODI match, bowling 60 overs in a Test match is quite common.

They are professionals and they are expected to bowl whenever required. Since the bowlers were physically fit I would have expected them to bowl.


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samit_choudhary   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-08-07 11:01:40

Match fixers offer big bucks far far much higher money than what could have got by winning the game.Further Rahul Dravid didn't perform well in the series personally.He wanted to save the match and himself;at the same time earn big money from fixers.
Shame on the captaincy of Dravid,who did nothing other than doing politics within the team from the day he took captaincy.He doesn't care for the country but only interested in his personal selfish gains and money of course(black and unethical).


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Maharaj   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-08-07 12:46:48

and Still the Team Officially got 250,000$ to share between them, and that's all that matters ... isn't it?




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