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Canada - An Immigrants Mirage
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We all have dreams and we do strive to be successful in life in our own chosen and selected paths. We all want to do something important and that’s what the “struggle for existence” is.

I came from India to US on an IT job to silicon Valley . Worked there for 2 years and saw what a developed country like US had to offer. Felt the excitement in the air and the will of people to succeed in life . People worked more hours then usual because they wanted to spend more than what they could afford . Life was good and going well.

Not that I was not doing good in India. I was working in Bangalore for the Top 5 consulting firms and making good money there too. But the chance of coming to the "Land of opportunities" and making it "BIG" and attaining the "American dream" was always there . Some due to listening from friends how good USA was and some seeing the ever-increasing exchange rate of the US$ against the Indian Rupee

Life does has its good and Bad. When the IT bubble "Burst" as they say, most of the folks around lost their Jobs. Some went back to India, some like me who had filed for Canadian immigration felt lucky to move to another place close than selling everything and moving to India. So there our life started.

We sold off most of our stuff and drove up north - to US-Canada Border on I-5 feeling great that now we have our own country where we will no more be "ALIENS". We crossed the border and moved into a small place and started our life. Did not get an IT job as I did not have Canadian experience. Canadian experience for an IT job, did not understand it Term for the 1st month . I was thinking whether the computers in Canada are different from what is made all over the world or perhaps there Java, Microsoft or Oracle is different. Well , we had good savings to life was not that bad. Saw people around us doing labour jobs not that they are bad but doctors and MBA's doing labor jobs is even unseen in India.

Staying there for more than 2 months and seeing the way new immigrants around me were surviving , I was really questioning which is a developed country , India or Canada. Well, I had my part o contribute to Canada also . Took a Job at the Departmental store for $9 can per hour . That was a lot of downfall. From $65 US per hour to 9$ can per hour is a lot of downgrade. People could not understand Why I have a BMW 3 series but I am working in a departmental store.

What do I explain them . Well , stayed in Canada for 8 months and moved back to US for a Car company project and filed for my Green Card .

Enough of Canada for me for now .I guess I am not strong like other Immigrants here who are toiling their lives here for years now hoping that they will make it "BIG" one day .


My frank (personal) opinion, India is better than Canada if you have to work in the night's for 9$ can and spend your life waiting for your BIG day





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HARJIT6244   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 11
Location: BRAMPTON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-02-04 16:00:13

I AM FROM SINGAPORE. I LEFT A WELL PAYING JOB IN A MULTINATIONAL COMPANY AND I'M BLEEDINH HERE. I CAME IN FEB 2003, LOOKED FOR IT JOBS FROM FEB 2003- JUNE 2003 AND I GOT FED UP AND WHEN BACK TO SINGAPORE. I HAVE BEEN TO AGENCIES AND SEND OUT THOUSDANDS OF RESUMES BUT NO ONE BOTHERS TO CALL. I AM A GHRADUATE FROM UK ALSO. I WENT BACK TO SINGAPORE, SECURED A 6 MONTHS CONTARCT IT JOB AND WAS VERY HAPPY. SO DECIDED TO COME BACK AND TRY AGAIN THIS JANUARY 2004, AND ITS THE SAME STORY. YOU MEET ALL KINDS OF ASIANS HERE WHO HAVE THE SAME STORY. YOU WORK HERE AS A HIGHLY SKILLED AND EDUCATED LABOUR AND WAIT FOR YOUR DREAM JOB THAT NEVER COMES. MY AUNTIES HAVE TOLD ME TO BE PATIENT, OR WORK AS SECURITY GUARDS, ARE THEY GOING TO FEED ME IN FUTURE. I AM PLANNING TO RETURN FOR GOOD IN MARCH 2003. I WILL NEVER RECOMMEND CANADA AS ITS RUBBISH AND THE PEOPLE ESPECIALLY ASIANS ARE EXPLOITED. I WOULD ADVISE ANY DESI COME TO SINGAPORE AND SEE FOR YOUSELF WHAT LIFE IS. YES ITS A SMALL COUNTRY BUT THEYVALUE YOU.



chandresh   
Member since: Mar 03
Posts: 2606
Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 03-02-04 20:29:08

Harjit,

For a person who has not actually lived in Singapore, it is extremely difficult, or almost impossible to compare how life for a professional expat turned PR in Singapore with that of Canada - or USA, Germany or UK for that matter. Having travelled to many countries and lived and worked in 5 countries, I find Singapore as the best place for an Indian to live. If I could, I would go back today (and not wait for tomorrow).

The whole world feels that West and specially North America is the best place to live - and it could be true for people who have not lived in Singapore. Untill you have experienced the best, whatever you see you pick the best out of that. Singapore is a place which offers advancement in technology of the west (or better still), all material facilities, culture of the east, good money, very low taxation, a system that works and where you can get govt things done in hours (and at times, in minutes), not in days or months, etc. etc....... But there is no one to blame but us for choosing to shift to Canada.

In my opinion, if you still can, you should try and return to Singapore - there is no place like that for an Indian. I have lived there for 13 years and I know it!


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DesiTiger   
Member since: Aug 03
Posts: 1205
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 04-02-04 15:55:59

My Sister-in-Law lived in Singapore for 3 years and hated it. I've heard the same for a couple of other friends too. Since I have never visited Singapore, I don't know what to belive, but I am personally convinced that regardless of where you are, your success will always depend on your own resourcefulness. Sometimes we are able to tap this potential and suceed and sometimes we are inhibited by our surroundings and fail to do so. But in the end, it all comes down to our inner strengths.

Have Faith and Fortune will find you,

DT

Sorry, that last part sounded too much like a Fortune Cookie Wrapper :D


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sanjivkumaargupta   
Member since: Jan 04
Posts: 129
Location: toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 09-02-04 00:01:13

I agree and suggest:

Fight and fortune is everywhere. Live where you feel comfortable mentally and physically.

Canada is not that bad if we compare in totality.



Smiley   
Member since: Mar 03
Posts: 1185
Location: USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-08-05 15:39:22

Just a correction

Not my Personal story. Took it from another website. Could never edit it as that functionality is not available

Thanks


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Loser   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1052
Location: Nice ,USA

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-08-05 19:02:22

If you are living in a Paradise like Singapore as you claim then why the Hell did you bother even to migrate to Canada. :D


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Orginally posted by HARJIT6244

I AM FROM SINGAPORE. I LEFT A WELL PAYING JOB IN A MULTINATIONAL COMPANY AND I'M BLEEDINH HERE. I CAME IN FEB 2003, LOOKED FOR IT JOBS FROM FEB 2003- JUNE 2003 AND I GOT FED UP AND WHEN BACK TO SINGAPORE. I HAVE BEEN TO AGENCIES AND SEND OUT THOUSDANDS OF RESUMES BUT NO ONE BOTHERS TO CALL. I AM A GHRADUATE FROM UK ALSO. I WENT BACK TO SINGAPORE, SECURED A 6 MONTHS CONTARCT IT JOB AND WAS VERY HAPPY. SO DECIDED TO COME BACK AND TRY AGAIN THIS JANUARY 2004, AND ITS THE SAME STORY. YOU MEET ALL KINDS OF ASIANS HERE WHO HAVE THE SAME STORY. YOU WORK HERE AS A HIGHLY SKILLED AND EDUCATED LABOUR AND WAIT FOR YOUR DREAM JOB THAT NEVER COMES. MY AUNTIES HAVE TOLD ME TO BE PATIENT, OR WORK AS SECURITY GUARDS, ARE THEY GOING TO FEED ME IN FUTURE. I AM PLANNING TO RETURN FOR GOOD IN MARCH 2003. I WILL NEVER RECOMMEND CANADA AS ITS RUBBISH AND THE PEOPLE ESPECIALLY ASIANS ARE EXPLOITED. I WOULD ADVISE ANY DESI COME TO SINGAPORE AND SEE FOR YOUSELF WHAT LIFE IS. YES ITS A SMALL COUNTRY BUT THEYVALUE YOU.


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goldeneye   
Member since: Mar 05
Posts: 454
Location: London, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-08-05 22:42:34

Why did you bother to migrate
If you are living in a Paradise like Singapore as you claim then why the Hell did you bother even to migrate to Canada. ...?
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May all Fellow desis note that Singapore does not offer status ( Permanent residency ) except under exceptional cases with stringent conditions. Also no matter how long you work in Middle east ( Gulf ) you are not given status and neither can a immigrant worker own any property. Also our passports have to be surrendered and yearly work visas extended to be able to stay there. So we always have found and continue to find people from Singapore and Middle east who had very good jobs there but still choose to immigrate to Canada for future. They know that after a certain stage money is not everything and move to Canada for status, safety, investment and above all childrens education. ( All these moves are done knowing fully well about Canada ) Why did you think somebody came here ,failed , and after going back why did he choose to come back and try his luck again.?
The answer is also hidden in their posts . Canada does offer something more than their well paying jobs .
Remember a fellow desi who came here twice and lost his PR and how he is thinking of trying to renew the status or still not being able to overcome the loss of PR etc..
Well , enough said on this topic. I am not criticizing anyone but we can see their intent and desperation to succeed in Canada , through their very own posts.
Good luck to all
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