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Posted on: 18-03-08 05:58:42
hi, everyone and good day to you all!
i was looking for a forum like this for ages, especially one with desi's dealing with desi problems.
i need urgent advice and wondered if any one here can help me?
i obtained PR status in 2004 with my family, and we landed the same year.
we stayed in toronto for 1 year and then due to family problems in the uk, we flew back to the uk.
our PR is due to expire in 2009, but my wife and kids do not want to go back, until their studies are finished in the uk.
so i only have 2 choices--go back to canada myself on my own and retain my PR, then once the kids studies are finished, re-sponsor my family from canada.
or, and this is the real question i wanted your advice for -- can i purchase a small property in canada while i am in the uk, and use that property as evidence of my stay in canada?
i have heard this being done and wanted to know if it really is possible?
any sensible advice will be most welcome!
many thanks to you all. 
G'day Mate,
This has been asked before. Since you do not know about it or did not read the forum with hundred's of letters, it is O.K. to ask one more.
You say you landed here in 2004 and spent an year here. You will have to fill in at-least 730 full days here with your royal presence 'just to renew' your PR card. For this we need your physical presence. A house will not substitute it for you. If that did, a lot of people from Bogota would have bought the whole of Toronto and all of us together with it.
You can certainly come down and get the required time filled 'Before the end of FIVE years', and if you know the exact dates, then calculate and see if you will be able to complete the 730 days before the five years are up. If not you are out of luck there and no one can help you in this on the Canadian Desi website. You will have to see a GOOD Lawyer and work with him, then again you take your chances there too. "They will flog you and they will flay you by the living GOD that made you, GUNGADIN!" (Rudyard Kipling)
NOW YOU KNOW that you only have ONE CHOICE. (Hobsons)
You can surely purchase a property, but I will strongly advice against it till you get your count of the days and see if you will fulfill the required 730 days FIRST. If you do, then, surely go for it. Otherwise, it will be just a waste of money.
If you are able to get those many number of days before the five years are over, then surely buy a nice house and the family can come down any time and join you and stay here, and live along with you. Only time will tell if anyone will question their absence. And if they do, bring in all of the sorry tales and your woes and the difficulties that you have gone through there in the U.K.
You cross that bridge when you come to it.
Hope this helps.
Freddie.
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Originally posted by ftfl
You say you landed here in 2004 and spent an year here. You will have to fill in at-least 730 full days here with your royal presence 'just to renew' your PR card. For this we need your physical presence. A house will not substitute it for you. If that did, a lot of people from Bogota would have bought the whole of Toronto and all of us together with it.
Freddie.
Not necessary Freddie .....if he manages to get a job with a Canadian bussiness in UK , there is a "technical "possibility of him & his family being able to maintain their PR status.
As for those Bogotians .... they should get a good consultant ... if they have money, they should be able to get in without the physical presence clause .... and it is all legal.
thank you puttoo and ftfl!
i do realise that i need 730 days there to preserve my PR.
I have worked out, including my days when I have gone there for short periods, that i need roughly 1 year and 1 month to qualify for PR, before 2009.
what i meant with my orginal question regarding property, was that as the property will be my residence when i am in canada, cannot that property purchase count towards part of my 730 days?
i really do not want to lose my immigration, as it is a very valuable commodity indeed, and once lost, i will not be able to qualify for it, as my age will not allow me to get maximum points (i am in my late 40s).
however, some people say that the PNP immigration would still be available to me?
any ideas or views, guys?
PS where are those posts you mentioned about this subject? i searched this forum but nothing similar came up!!!
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Originally posted by ftfl
G'day Mate,
This has been asked before. Since you do not know about it or did not read the forum with hundred's of letters, it is O.K. to ask one more.
You say you landed here in 2004 and spent an year here. You will have to fill in at-least 730 full days here with your royal presence 'just to renew' your PR card. For this we need your physical presence. A house will not substitute it for you. If that did, a lot of people from Bogota would have bought the whole of Toronto and all of us together with it.
You can certainly come down and get the required time filled 'Before the end of FIVE years', and if you know the exact dates, then calculate and see if you will be able to complete the 730 days before the five years are up. If not you are out of luck there and no one can help you in this on the Canadian Desi website. You will have to see a GOOD Lawyer and work with him, then again you take your chances there too. "They will flog you and they will flay you by the living GOD that made you, GUNGADIN!" (Rudyard Kipling)
NOW YOU KNOW that you only have ONE CHOICE. (Hobsons)
You can surely purchase a property, but I will strongly advice against it till you get your count of the days and see if you will fulfill the required 730 days FIRST. If you do, then, surely go for it. Otherwise, it will be just a waste of money.
If you are able to get those many number of days before the five years are over, then surely buy a nice house and the family can come down any time and join you and stay here, and live along with you. Only time will tell if anyone will question their absence. And if they do, bring in all of the sorry tales and your woes and the difficulties that you have gone through there in the U.K.
You cross that bridge when you come to it.
Hope this helps.
Freddie.
Hi Puttoo,
What comes to mind is 'COR BLIMEY"
You surprised me with this response. 'I could not agree but fully with you.'
That reminds me of a case in which a smoker who was permitted to smoke only one cigarette per day and was told that was the only way he will be able to give it up.
For this he asked the Doctor,: "Can I break this Smoke into two and have two smokes at the least, per day?"
I some times wonder, if I could cut the corners for everyone and suggest a few avenues or provide them with the loop holes in the law.
If I could only do that, then they will be flocking to this website like BEES TO THE HONEY.
Well,.. as long as Gungadin can get his 730 days in Five years, how you slice it or mince it or dice it, it does not matter to me. He says that he has an year under his belt, it is already March of this year (2008) and we are into the 18th day already. I can only ask him to do some arithmetic. I tried to do mine. I could not do it and so threw the ball back into his court. Now, you go and figure this one out.
For anyone to get into Canada, we need a PCC. Any one from SA is watched like an hawk. And if you mention another "C" and Bogota you will have "the riders of the lost horse" on their tail and don't forget that the Mountie will always get his man.
I think the legal beagles are sticking to their guns too. Ethics dictate that they keep away from this. That is why we don't normally see many chipping in here from the professions, because it will constitute as advice and this free part is a No No in their services.
Thank you for bringing it to my attention, lest we forget.
Freddie.
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Originally posted by ftfl
I some times wonder, if I could cut the corners for everyone and suggest a few avenues or provide them with the loop holes in the law.
If I could only do that, then they will be flocking to this website like BEES TO THE HONEY.
Freddie.
Freddie ... it is neither cutting corner nor a loop hole in law. If you check http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5445EA.asp ... it is given as an option -2. If CIC is going out of its way to announce it as an option ....... it doesn't remian a loop hole ....
funny reply though
well, ftfl..........
i dont really know how to take your response!
is it supposed to be taken as a joke or is it a sarcastic poke at my maths.....?
and what's "cor blimey" got to do with it..........!!
my original query about the property still remains unanswered.
in a nutshell, it's not as if i am living in a 3rd world country or something and desperate to get out.......i am just trying to weigh up my options.
if at the end of the day i cannot meet the 730 days, then so be it... it's not the end of the world, and i can quite comfortably carry on living and making money in the UK just as well!!!!!!
hope you guys dont take this response as a personal attack--it is not meant to be.
Quote:
Originally posted by ftfl
Hi Puttoo,
What comes to mind is 'COR BLIMEY"
You surprised me with this response. 'I could not agree but fully with you.'
That reminds me of a case in which a smoker who was permitted to smoke only one cigarette per day and was told that was the only way he will be able to give it up.
For this he asked the Doctor,: "Can I break this Smoke into two and have two smokes at the least, per day?"
I some times wonder, if I could cut the corners for everyone and suggest a few avenues or provide them with the loop holes in the law.
If I could only do that, then they will be flocking to this website like BEES TO THE HONEY.
Well,.. as long as Gungadin can get his 730 days in Five years, how you slice it or mince it or dice it, it does not matter to me. He says that he has an year under his belt, it is already March of this year (2008) and we are into the 18th day already. I can only ask him to do some arithmetic. I tried to do mine. I could not do it and so threw the ball back into his court. Now, you go and figure this one out.
For anyone to get into Canada, we need a PCC. Any one from SA is watched like an hawk. And if you mention another "C" and Bogota you will have "the riders of the lost horse" on their tail and don't forget that the Mountie will always get his man.
I think the legal beagles are sticking to their guns too. Ethics dictate that they keep away from this. That is why we don't normally see many chipping in here from the professions, because it will constitute as advice and this free part is a No No in their services.
Thank you for bringing it to my attention, lest we forget.
Freddie.
