Is $ 90K a excellent salary in Ottawa for 8 year exp single guy.


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brown_bear   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-01-09 19:52:23

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Originally posted by cool girl

I think its a shame!!!
We are in 2009......living in North America.....and still talking about dowry!
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I think it is also a shame that most women want to marry men who are in a comfortable job. Why don't you marry a poor guy from India and sponsor him to Canada if you hate people who take dowry? (That way you can get a guy who don't take dowry)

Shame on you all who want to marry only those who is good looking, who is not physically handicapped or who has good job :D



ayush_007   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-01-09 21:20:23

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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
Welcome to Canadian Desi.
90K is a subjective salary. For example, if you were receiving 100K Euro in Europe, it is a poor salary here. OTOH,if you were receiving 45K Pounds in UK, it is a very good salary.
In Canada, 90k is a very very good salary and only the cream of the soceity (you also not being in IT) will ever get it. Ottawa is a place where all govt. offices of Canada are (federal). Cost of living is average and not a place where you can find another work if your current job is gone. You will find that the cost of living / cost of goods is a fraction in Canada when compared to UK./Europe. For a 90K salary, you will receive around 55K to 60K in hand and if you leave 10K for rent (yearly) and another 7K -10(yearly) for groceries/ bus pass / internet/ phone / dress, you can save 40 K annually (provided your main aim is saving and you live by cutting corners and look at the gbig picture in the future). 40K is around 16 lakhs Indian Rupees.
Does this sound good to you?
Winters are wild here, though not as bad as in Hudson bay or Edmonton. snow will be here for 4 - 5 months a year and Winter is around 7 months. The max low temp will be around -25 for a couple of days for a few months. As long as you will be in an office job, this is very managable.
once you join for job, you can apply for PR and if that comes in 2-3 years, then after 4 years you will get the passport in your hand.Then you can go to the USA as a king and no one can stop you.
regarding marriage, if you prefer to be here, you can register in Shadi.com / tell your parents to look for a bride and then short list 10-20 people whom you can see by taking a short vacation to India. you can get engaged / married and then sponser them to Canada. Normally as per Indian traditions, the bride's family will give a lot of money (dowry and otherwise ) during the marriage which you can use for flight tickets / initial set up / sponsering costs etc...
Hope this helps .

Peace by TK



Very good , very informative post.

I am making more or less around 70-75K Euro, so 90K don't look very big salary as in Europe there is always mis conception that North america provides extra ordinary salary.

what making me frustrated is my all the friend in California doing the same job and earning 120K +and more with handsome stock option.

so the other point is I will not be given any stock option and stock purchase plan in Ottawa.

but according to your calculation saving looks good,

and I am not planing to own a car as I am used to European strong public transport system, I don't know how good is public transport in Ottawa verses extreme cold there but so far no plan to buy a car.

Regarding shaadi.com I did tried from here wasn't fruitful so far, I will give a try again. The process of arrange marriage is more complicated then what a thought and girls expectation/constrains also rocket high now a days(thanks to IT boom), so no success so far with 3-4 week trip to india once a year.

another thing is so far no significant saving(my poor planing and stupid life style), now when I look the apartment/villa price in Delhi/Noida or Bangalore. they ask 70 lakh - 1 crore+ and I am so frustrated that how much time it will take when I can buy a reasonably good accomodation there thats why very concern about saving now.

this is me
but nice information from you side which will certainly help me.




ayush_007   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-01-09 21:40:51

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Originally posted by sville

Ottawa is for sure a nice place. It's the best place to live in Canada http://list.canadianbusiness.com/rankings/bestplacestolive/2008/prosperity/Default.aspx?sp2=1&d1=a&sc1=6&sub=n1&df=bestcities
Other CD's can provide inputs for cost of living.

I'm assuming that you are really good at what you do. Or else why would a company pay?
I would say don't just look at the $s. 90K might look too yummy. But keep in mind Canadian taxes are considered killer by many. You might consider health benefits as advantages over higher taxes. You might even save on taxes, but consider this: you are single, young and don't wanna settle down in Canada.
No place is good or bad. It's all relative. You just don't decide to move to Agra or elsewhere just because it has good petha or no petha.

Does that job add any values to you? Do you see growth?
Do you think you can get offer from similar company and with similar job profile elsewhere?
10 years from now, do you think you would feel good about this Ottawa move?
Only you can answer.

Regarding Canada, yes I agree, winter is brutal. Jan and Feb are killer. (But hey, we all need warm vacation after job well done :D)
I've got nothing else to say against this country.
If US economy swings between 100 and 0, Canadian economy swings between 80 and 20. Indian economy swings between 70 and 30.

One final thought, we all have to settle down at some point of time and somewhere and you might find Canada be the just-right place with just right amount of "petha". Good luck.

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan
Then you can go to the USA as a king and no one can stop you.
Peace by TK


Ok, I take that as a joke.



My guess is may be quality of life would be degraded as compared to Europe but I am not an expert.

I am not very good what I do but yes I worked very hard to learn the thing at first 6-7 year of my career. when My frnd were having GF, going to night club and enjoying the life at fullest then I was working in office even in weekend even in night not for company but to gain my knowledge for other field too, which is paying me now, but I don't know I gained or lost as I donlt have GF , still single :D (no no dont mistake I look handsome, only thing was it was never a priority before).
Am I still young? I m on my 31 now ;)

Now coming back to excellent point you mentioned.

the company has small office in Ottawa so no as such real growth in terms or going high in management ladder as it is very unlikely they will grow in terms of man power there in near future, so indeed growth is limited for longer run.

as seeing current market situation I can not get similare offer anywhere may be 1 year down the line I can get in to US or can get good position in India as when market is open up american company in India will start recruitment in india, now I dont have any other offer now.

another risk is if I loose job there is very limited same job in Canada other point to be noted is I will be on work permit so not so easy to switch the job(even if i get one) and so.


A very good example of petha :D yes I need to settle down, but reading about Ottawa weather I can not settle here for long time offcourse Ottawa will also provide me limited growth as you said in terms of 10 year down the line for sure personal growth will be limited here.
heard good weather in Vancuaver but I dont hthing there will be any job in my field.

last thing is I mis my parents very much and I know they can never migrate here so sometime I also thing to go back to India, I don't knwo may be this is my weakness but its becoming hard for me living without my parents brother, bhabhi and their kids :mad:

But the good thing I can see by you guys reply is there is lots of intellectual Indian people out in Canada which I really missed in last 3 year in Europe.

Nice reply nice analysis thanks



blorean   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-01-09 22:52:23

Ottawa is a fantastic place to live on 90K.

In general, Canada is a great place to LIVE.

In general, Canada is NOT a great place to SAVE a lot of money.

You can save some money but not as much as you would in the middle-east for example.


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quest   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 10-01-09 23:10:53

live for today...tomorrow never comes!



Fido   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 11-01-09 08:26:58

Its been observed that NRIs tend to get a raw deal when it comes to arranged marriage as 3-4 weeks / year is not enough to finalize a life long most important relationship in your life which shall shape your life plus be a driver to your future income as well (stress levels etc ) .... Converted to monetary terms , I think this is the biggest constraint as if you have skills and experience , you can find suitable jobs in any part of the world ...

31 is a very comfortable bachelor age and since you have spent so many precious years in building a career , do not squander it away in a hasty marriage decision . If I were you , I would go back to India for an year at a good career position , get married comfortably and then start searching avenues in N America / else where . Jobs can be searched / switched - marriages can't .

By 2010 , the market might also start bouncing back . Though it may appear to be a 'no' decision to some (given 90K salary ) - but I m sure marriage is more important .If you are worth 90K today , you will be worth 100 tomorrow .

Canada has got a huge Indian community - another alternative is , you can do bride searching here ..... Good Luck.


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