Posted on: 02-02-09 12:56:23
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ou limited your choice to politicians (just 1 species of Human).
Are politicians considered a human species?
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Originally posted by hchheda
I do not understand the need for TTC to jump into this mess - what's thier problem if the people are religious? Why do they need to propagate anti-religion messages on thier buses/subway?There are way better and other pressing reasons/needs to use the money/funds available with TTC.
Hiren
TTC is not directly involved in this "mess". It is just carrying billboards/posters for an atheist group. TTC does not advocate atheism.
If religious group has a right to advocate their message, so should have the atheist groups
On a side note, some of the signs on TTC subway are more offensive than this atheist group
My view:
Mankind needs science.
Mankind does NOT need religion.
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Originally posted by blorean
Yes? I think so. Personally, I hate religion. It is the worst thing that has happened to this planet. It is more horrible than cancer, aids or anything else...
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Hi Blorean,
Kudos to you for starting this thread.
There is a popular bumper sticker I saw some time back. 'Children believe in Santa Claus. Grownups believe in God'.
1) In the past 1 billion years not a single person has seen God (in a way that qualifies as evidence). What are the chances we will see God in the next 1 billion years?
2) At the same time, religion continues to offer solace and peace of mind to billions around the world. Irrespective of whether we meet god after we die or not, religion certainly offers comfort to human beings in this lifetime. It makes us get through the dreariness of this world.
3) But where we need to draw the line is when a religion becomes a liability to humankind and cripples all our past progress and achievements. E.g.: Yesterday news, Taliban in the SWAT region of Pakistan has banned all girl children from attending schools. Banned male doctors from attending on women patients. How low can we as human race go?
Consider this Irony: A Hindu is an atheist for Muslim and vice versa. A Christian is an atheist for a Muslim and vice versa. Bring all the remaining religions into this equation. At the end of the day, we are all atheists to each other.
Cheers
Seenappa
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Originally posted by seenappa
Consider this Irony: A Hindu is an atheist for Muslim and vice versa. A Christian is an atheist for a Muslim and vice versa. Bring all the remaining religions into this equation. At the end of the day, we are all atheists to each other.
Cheers
Seenappa
That's a perfect segway to my next thought in line.
If you read some of the other reactions here, it is clear what religion does. Just pit one human against another. It is the biggest divider amongst human beings. Lets take a hindu, a muslim and a christian. If they weren't a hindu, a muslim or a christian why would they be different people? They wouldn't correct?
As humans, we seem to assert each others' supremacy in various ways. Religion is the biggest culprit that takes advantage of this facet of human nature by giving another reason to hate one another.
Its like - for example - "I don't like your face...but hey I feel like killing you now because you are also a muslim". Other than that what has religion given mankind? Nothing. It has created factions within believers and of course divided mankind into two of the biggest factions - believers and non-believers. Unnecessary.
Love, respect, honour, dignity, compassion, tolerance, contentment - all these were taught to me outside of religious context altogether. I studied in schools back in India where we had a subject "Moral science". It had no reference to religion.
And to set the record straight, I am not asking you to knock your beliefs off the planet. By all means, carry on. But can you also see that religion ONLY separates human beings? Seldom does it bring us together.
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If you have a gun, you can rob a bank.
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Now I can relax, considering CCCP and Red China were successful experiments in goddless societies.
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Originally posted by Daari_Tappida_Maaga
Now I can relax, considering CCCP and Red China were successful experiments in goddless societies.
Those are precisely the misleading arguments religionists have long given to counter Atheism. What they conveniently forget to mention is, communism is simply another form of religion.
In this case, worship of the State (country) replaces the worship of a supreme being.
Your true atheists are those thousands of scientists namely Einstein, Charles Darwin, Newton, Carl Sagan et al who have shaped the mankind to what it is today.
cheers,
seenappa
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Originally posted by seenappa
Your true atheists are those thousands of scientists namely Einstein, Charles Darwin, Newton, Carl Sagan et al who have shaped the mankind to what it is today.
cheers,
seenappa
Einstein an atheist? You must be kidding.. Albert Einstein once said, "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Newton was known to have been profoundly religious and once said "Atheism is so senseless & odious to mankind that it never had many professors"
As for Darwin, (from wiki) "In 1879 a letter came asking if he believed in God, and if theism and evolution were compatible. He replied that a man "can be an ardent Theist and an evolutionist", citing Charles Kingsley and Asa Gray as examples, and for himself, he had "never been an Atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God". He added that "I think that generally (and more and more as I grow older), but not always, that an Agnostic would be a more correct description of my state of mind."
Sagan again was not an atheist, expressing once that, "An atheist has to know a lot more than I know."
Atheism is promoted by neo-darwnists like Dawkins and other Dawkinists.
