Citizenship Oath, Passport and Visa - is this doable?


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NewDesiInTown   
Member since: Dec 08
Posts: 36
Location: Toronto, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-09 12:02:35

Hi all,

I have received the oath letter for my citizenship.
But I also have plan to go to India for 2 months 2 days after the date of the oath.
so one option is to get the oath postponed.
The other option is to do the oath and then try to get everything done within 2 days.
please tell me whether this is possible or not.
for the plan to work, this is what I will have to do :
1. Take the oath (8:00 am)
2. Apply for Canadian Passport using the 24-hr. urgent service $75 (10:00 am)
3. Next morning, collect passport by 10:00 am
4. Apply emergency India visa by 11:00 am
5. Collect passport back from Indian consulate by 4:00 pm
6. Travel next day

I already have my tickets so I can prove urgent travel for both Cdn passport and India visa.

my question is whether this plan is doable or not.
does everything happen as predicted like do they actually give passport within 24 hrs. and Indian embassy gives visa same day?



cdn_dude   
Member since: Dec 05
Posts: 942
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-09 13:20:04

You might not be able to get the passport within 24 hours. May be or may be not, because it is upto the passport officer's discretion whether it is an emergency or not. (I am having a first hand experience). Having said this, they have a 48 hr service for $35 (as of 2 years back) which is easily possible. You might want this as your plan B.

I do not know about the Indian visa timeline.

Quote:
Originally posted by NewDesiInTown

Hi all,

I have received the oath letter for my citizenship.
But I also have plan to go to India for 2 months 2 days after the date of the oath.
so one option is to get the oath postponed.
The other option is to do the oath and then try to get everything done within 2 days.
please tell me whether this is possible or not.
for the plan to work, this is what I will have to do :
1. Take the oath (8:00 am)
2. Apply for Canadian Passport using the 24-hr. urgent service $75 (10:00 am)
3. Next morning, collect passport by 10:00 am
4. Apply emergency India visa by 11:00 am
5. Collect passport back from Indian consulate by 4:00 pm
6. Travel next day

I already have my tickets so I can prove urgent travel for both Cdn passport and India visa.

my question is whether this plan is doable or not.
does everything happen as predicted like do they actually give passport within 24 hrs. and Indian embassy gives visa same day?



NewDesiInTown   
Member since: Dec 08
Posts: 36
Location: Toronto, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-09 14:25:54

Quote:
Originally posted by cdn_dude
You might not be able to get the passport within 24 hours. May be or may be not, because it is upto the passport officer's discretion whether it is an emergency or not. (I am having a first hand experience). Having said this, they have a 48 hr service for $35 (as of 2 years back) which is easily possible. You might want this as your plan B.

The express service says 2 to 9 days :
http://passport.gc.ca/cdn/service.aspx?lang=eng

Is it guaranteed to be within 48 hrs?
But that still cuts it too close because then I will have to get passport and Indian visa on the same date, which is the last working day before my travel date.
Same day Indian visa can only be applied between 9:00 am and 11:00 am.

coming back to the urgent service, if I have tickets to prove travel date and a valid reason will they not accept it and give me passport within 24 hrs?
what can I do to convince them?



cdn_dude   
Member since: Dec 05
Posts: 942
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-09 18:21:16

It is risky to buy a ticket without having your passport. What if they do not get convinced? Buy it if you are willing to take chances.

The service time seems to have changed. Two years back it was 48 hours guaranteed! Ask them in person, they will tell you ifthey can do it in 48 hours.

Quote:
Originally posted by NewDesiInTown

Quote:
Originally posted by cdn_dude
You might not be able to get the passport within 24 hours. May be or may be not, because it is upto the passport officer's discretion whether it is an emergency or not. (I am having a first hand experience). Having said this, they have a 48 hr service for $35 (as of 2 years back) which is easily possible. You might want this as your plan B.

The express service says 2 to 9 days :
http://passport.gc.ca/cdn/service.aspx?lang=eng

Is it guaranteed to be within 48 hrs?
But that still cuts it too close because then I will have to get passport and Indian visa on the same date, which is the last working day before my travel date.
Same day Indian visa can only be applied between 9:00 am and 11:00 am.

coming back to the urgent service, if I have tickets to prove travel date and a valid reason will they not accept it and give me passport within 24 hrs?
what can I do to convince them?



rajcanada   
Member since: Jul 03
Posts: 2713
Location: Kitchener, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-09 19:01:31

If you are coming back for sure, then your oath can wait (if you have finalized all your travel arrangements).


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NewDesiInTown   
Member since: Dec 08
Posts: 36
Location: Toronto, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-09 19:30:31

Quote:
Originally posted by cdn_dude
It is risky to buy a ticket without having your passport. What if they do not get convinced? Buy it if you are willing to take chances.

I already have the ticket. It was booked last week, before I got the oath letter.
I wasn't expecting the letter for at least another month or so and I though I'll come back by then.
It was a pleasant surprise, but has put me in this dilemna.
So given the fact that I have ticket, will that be enough to convince PPT office for 24 hr passport?

Quote:
Originally posted by rajcanada
If you are coming back for sure, then your oath can wait (if you have finalized all your travel arrangements).

Yes, I am coming back for sure.
If I don't take the oath, what do I tell citizenship office?
Do they normally postpone oath ceremony if someone is going on vacation?
Should i fax and write them a letter?
Do they need any proof?
Thanks for your help cdn_dude and rajcanada



Pramod Chopra   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 1284
Location: Pickering, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-02-09 19:36:49


I would also endorse Raj Canada's views.

Instead of doing all this hassle and spending extra money, just delay the oath and enjoy your trip to India.


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