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parth1970   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-04-09 17:20:53

that is good so terror free life in India one BJP is in power


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RESP   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-04-09 22:02:26

What a joke.... the same BJP could not and did not do anything when Indian Parliament was attacked, it is just a vote ploitics... Indian leaders are not having guts to do anything good and bold.


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Vandematram   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-04-09 00:00:30

Honest to God, India should get its own Taliban and Sharia Law. This is the only way the Hindu's will wake up and smell the roses. Historically we hindus have been good at being Ghulam's to others. We were ruled by the Mughals for 700 years, followed by British for 300 years and now with the Congress for 62 years.

Just like the Mughals who came down to Tamilnadu in early part of 1200 to 1300 Ad and destroyed most of the Madurai MEENAKSHI amman temple which was subsequently rebuilt, while the taliban has destroyed most of the Buddha statues in Afghanistan in recent times. They should come in and play around with a few Indian temples and then we will learn. But past does not indicate that we have learnt.

When will we wake up?.

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http://news.rediff.com/special/2009/ap
r/15/-there-could-soon-be-an-indian-taliban.htm

'There could soon be an Indian Taliban'

Ahmed Rashid, one of the world's foremost experts on the Taliban [Images], has predicted that with the resurgent Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan, there could very well be an Indian Taliban in the near future.
Rashid exhorted India and Pakistan to resurrect their dialogue and cooperate in fighting terrorism and extremism together because if Pakistan fails to counter the sustained onslaught of the Taliban, New Delhi [Images] could be faced with a Taliban government as its neighbour.

\\\"If you think infiltration into Kashmir is bad now, wait until the Taliban become your neighbour. Then you will see real infiltration not only into Kashmir, but into India proper.\\\"

Rashid, who was speaking at the Woman's National Democratic Club in Washington, DC, in a discussion and book-signing of his most recent book Descent into Chaos: US Policy and the Failure of National Building in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Central Asia, under the aegis of the Asia Society, said, \\\"In 2001, we expected after the US attack (in the aftermath of 9/11) that the Taliban, Al Qaeda [Images], would be on the ropes, if not wiped out.\\\"

\\\"Today, we have the Taliban as a role model for an entire region. We have not only the Afghan Taliban, today, we have the Pakistani Taliban, Central Asian, and very soon you may have the Indian Taliban. You may have the Taliban stretching into the Caucasus and even into the Middle East,\\\" he told the gathering.

Rashid, who first wrote the seminal book on the Taliban, reiterated that \\\"it's become a role model for extremism, it is backed financially by Al Qaeda, and it's extremely dangerous. It is now controlling something like a quarter of Afghanistan and large tracts of northern Pakistan and they are coming now down into Punjab and Pakistan is faced with a very, very serious threat.\\\"

The Pakistani military, he added, \\\"unfortunately, even today, remains in a state of denial about the threat that it faces in the country. It remains in a state of denial over the Taliban who are encroaching in Pakistan with even more power and tactics. It remains in denial about the other extremist groups who've been active in other parts of Pakistan -- in the south and the center of the country. It also remains in denial of the desperate means that the military needs to be re-aligning itself on a much more modern counter-insurgency strategy that it has so far applied in its action with the Taliban.\\\"

Rashid said the situation in Pakistan \\\"is very dire,\\\" and that currently \\\"there is a fragmentation in the leadership. There is no demonstrated leadership, either being shown by the politicians or being shown by the army right now.\\\"

With regard to the Obama [Images] administration's new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, particularly its regional approach, the Pakistani author and journalist argued, \\\"The problem is all of the six neighbours have bilateral problems with each other and you cannot get them to agree on stabilising Afghanistan, unless you initiate a diplomatic process to get them to talk to each other about their bilateral issues.\\\"

Rashid said it was a no-brainer that \\\"the biggest problem here is India and Pakistan,\\\" both of whom \\\"are unfortunately now involved in a deep rivalry in Afghanistan.\\\"

\\\"I call Kabul the new Kashmir in a way,\\\" he said, and noted that \\\"Pakistan believes that the Indian presence in Afghanistan is undermining the western border of Pakistan and that the Afghan government is too close to India. There is a litany of complaints here. And, this is all being affected by the Americans, by the US military and the Indian-Afghan alliance is part of a US plan to help destabilise Pakistan.\\\"

Rashid said, \\\"This is the kind of conspiracy theory which is very prevalent in the military, the bureaucracy, in government circles, within the elite in Pakistan.\\\"

\\\"I certainly don't agree with that and Afghanistan is today a sovereign State and it has a right to have relations with every country in the world and no other country can dictate that you can't have relations with so and so and so and so.\\\"

But, Rashid asserted, that \\\"at the same time, the Indians need to be much more flexible than they have been.\\\"

He acknowledged that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh [Images] \\\"has been very patient so far with the kind of strings of bomb blasts that had happened in India even before Mumbai [Images]. Mumbai was perhaps the icing on the cake and perhaps with elections looming, the Congress government couldn't really take it anymore.\\\"

\\\"Anyway, the net result has been a total breakdown in relations, but I really think, a start should be made in trying to get India and Pakistan to discuss Afghanistan and to put an end to this covert war that both sides are mounting from Afghanistan or in Afghanistan, and the bad blood that exists between both countries and are threatened by the Taliban.\\\"

Rashid warned that if India doesn't let Pakistan \\\"off the hook here,\\\" and doesn't help Pakistan out in this regard, India would be faced with two threats in the near future. India would be \\\"faced with an Indian Taliban. We already have Indian Islamic extremist groups working in India, and secondly, if Pakistan slides even further, India will be sharing a border with the Taliban. You will not be sharing a border with the Pakistan state. You will be sharing a border with a Pakistan northwest frontier province that has fallen to the Taliban and even parts of Punjab fallen to the Taliban and then what are you going to do?\\\"

\\\"There is a real need for India to assess its national security needs and to understand that it is threatened by this,\\\" Rashid said. \\\"It may be, for someone living in Kolkata or someone living in Madras, it may be an existential threat. But, it is very real and the kind of mayhem that was wracked in Mumbai recently is an example of what some of these groups are capable of doing.\\\"

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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36939┬žionid=4&issueid=101&Itemid=1

We'll have Shariah in all of Pak: Muslim Khan
Headlines Today
New Delhi, April 15, 2009

In his first exclusive interview to an Indian television network, Tehreek-e-Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan spoke to Headlines Today in Pakistan's Swat. He opened by declaring in no uncertain terms that the Taliban intended to annex Pakistan in its entirety, and convert it into a \\\"true Islamic state\\\".

Referring to the hundreds of Pakistanis who have died in the area and the atrocities that continue, Khan said, \\\"That is their fate. It is our duty to show the world what Islam really is. It is Allah's will that Pakistan be under Shariah in its true form. We have promised Allah that we will not rest until all of Pakistan is under Shariah.\\\"

When asked what the Tehreek-e-Taliban would do if it faced opposition from the Pakistani forces, he didn't lose a moment to declare that his outfit would use all means and all force available to overcome any opposition to their cause. He made it clear that the Taliban-controlled Swat, Malakand and more recently the Buner District of Pakistan's North West Frontier Province, will be used as templates that the marauding Taliban will replicate in every piece of territory they take over. The recent authentication of the Swat peace deal through Pakistan's Parliament has reportedly emboldened the group into looking towards more territory - including South East into Pakistani Punjab.

With unconfirmed reports of Taliban infiltrations into the Valley still doing the rounds, the Taliban spokesman had a warning that speaks for itself: \\\"What the Pakistan security forces could not achieve in Kashmir, the jihadis and the mujahideen will.\\\"

Khan went on to critise the \\\"Hindu government\\\" of J&K. \\\"The Hindu government in Kashmir is committing atrocities on Muslims. Security forces have been incapable of doing anything on that front. It can be achieved only by the way of Jihad. The security forces have been unable to liberate Kashmir in the last 60 years because they don't fight on the basis on religion,\\\" he said.

Then, disturbingly, \\\"Jihad does not stop in Pakistan. It does not stop for anything or anyone.\\\"




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Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-04-09 00:02:44

Quote:
Originally posted by MGupta

BJP will send troops to help Pakistan' to fight talibans..:cool:
http://www.frontierindia.net/wp-content/uploads/army/officers/genjj_gen_depak_kapoor.jpg" border="0" alt="http://www.frontierindia.net/wp-content/uploads/army/officers/genjj_gen_depak_kapoor.jpg" />

Quote:
GAYA: Striking an aggressive posture, BJP president Rajnath Singh today said if his party is voted to power then India would send troops to Pakistan to crush terrorism in the neighbouring country after taking international approval.


"If voted to power, the BJP government will ask Pakistan if it needs support of the Indian army to crush terrorism. If Islamabad is agreeable, it is all right. If not, our government will approach the global community for its endorsement to send the Indian Army to Pakistan," he told an election meeting at Airu village here.

"However, we will like Pakistan to first use its might to stamp out terrorism and dismantle all terror networks operating from its territory," Singh said.

Accusing the Congress-led UPA government at the Centre of having failed to effectively check terrorism, the BJP president said terror strikes in Mumbai and elsewhere in the country bore a 'testimony' to it.

The Manmohan Singh government has failed to instil a sense of confidence in the people about internal security of the nation, he charged.

Reaffirming BJP's 'irrevocable commitment' to protect its frontiers and providing security to the people, Singh said, "Pokhran- II and the victory in the Kargil war are two shining examples of our commitment to internal and external security." "National security is under severest threat ever. In the 50 years of Congress rule, not only the security aspect has been compromised, but unemployment has increased manifold and prices of essential commodities have spiralled out of control," he said.

http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=If+voted+to+power+BJP+will+send+troops+to+Pakistan&artid=lcT9cTyhY%7Cc=&SectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&MainSectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU=&SEO=GAYA,+RAJNATH" target="_blank">http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=If+voted+to+power+BJP+will+send+troops+to+Pakistan&artid=lcT9cTyhY%7Cc=&SectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&MainSectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU=&SEO=GAYA,+RAJNATH



Nonsense and BS. I will be happy if they can defend India!. Just a bunch of jokers. BJP can not come to power. There are quite a few good people in BJP compared to rouges in Kangress and idiots like Lalu. However, none of the BJP leaders barring Modi are capable of devising a strategy. After 30 years , they still can not shrug off "communal" tag nor can they consolidate Hindu vote bank. These jokers were in power for 5 years (NDA rule) but could not make friends with media (like NDTV and TOILET eh TOI are devoted to Kangress). They could not promote Radio channels (like republicans in southern USA) commited to their ideology. What do you expect from these guys? And lo and behold, their prime ministerial candidate is 85 years old Advani!



Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-04-09 08:17:06

And unlike Congress's 5 decades , they did send a strong signal and managed both the nuclear tests as well as the Kargil situation well . Economically also they did very well...... NDA defeat was seen as a surprise since they d done well on all accounts .

Not on communal lines , but they deserve another chance .


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Iknownothing   
Member since: Jan 08
Posts: 429
Location: Ohio

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-04-09 09:04:16

Quote:
Originally posted by MGupta

BJP will send troops to help Pakistan' to fight talibans..:cool:
http://www.frontierindia.net/wp-content/uploads/army/officers/genjj_gen_depak_kapoor.jpg" border="0" alt="http://www.frontierindia.net/wp-content/uploads/army/officers/genjj_gen_depak_kapoor.jpg" />

Quote:
GAYA: Striking an aggressive posture, BJP president Rajnath Singh today said if his party is voted to power then India would send troops to Pakistan to crush terrorism in the neighbouring country after taking international approval.


"If voted to power, the BJP government will ask Pakistan if it needs support of the Indian army to crush terrorism. If Islamabad is agreeable, it is all right. If not, our government will approach the global community for its endorsement to send the Indian Army to Pakistan," he told an election meeting at Airu village here.

"However, we will like Pakistan to first use its might to stamp out terrorism and dismantle all terror networks operating from its territory," Singh said.

Accusing the Congress-led UPA government at the Centre of having failed to effectively check terrorism, the BJP president said terror strikes in Mumbai and elsewhere in the country bore a 'testimony' to it.

The Manmohan Singh government has failed to instil a sense of confidence in the people about internal security of the nation, he charged.

Reaffirming BJP's 'irrevocable commitment' to protect its frontiers and providing security to the people, Singh said, "Pokhran- II and the victory in the Kargil war are two shining examples of our commitment to internal and external security." "National security is under severest threat ever. In the 50 years of Congress rule, not only the security aspect has been compromised, but unemployment has increased manifold and prices of essential commodities have spiralled out of control," he said.

http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=If+voted+to+power+BJP+will+send+troops+to+Pakistan&artid=lcT9cTyhY%7Cc=&SectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&MainSectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU=&SEO=GAYA,+RAJNATH" target="_blank">http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/story.aspx?Title=If+voted+to+power+BJP+will+send+troops+to+Pakistan&artid=lcT9cTyhY%7Cc=&SectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&MainSectionID=b7ziAYMenjw=&SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU=&SEO=GAYA,+RAJNATH



Crap!

Will Pakistan ever solicit India's help to solve their internal problems? A very stupid statement. Worthless try to gain some votes from uneducated people.



Daari_Tappida_Maaga   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-04-09 19:01:48

BJP brass has gone senile and keeps making rambling statements.

BJP is not about Hindutva anymore, its has become more about gerontacracy(genrontawadis, actually:D ).

Congress is getting there as well. At least MMS is not the real PM, there's a super PM behind the throne in Congress. Now, if we had somebody like PV Narasimha Rao behind the gaddhi, I would be okay with Kangress.





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