Taxpayers hit with penalties on tax-free savings accounts


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sudesingh   
Member since: Jul 04
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-06-10 18:08:36

Here is a nice article, on how you can dinged with a heavy penalty for playing around with your TFSA or more popularly known as Tax-Free Saving Account.

Canadians are being penalized for excess contributions, even though they kept their balances under the $5,000 annual limit.

If you have contributed the maximum to a TFSA and you withdraw any of your money, you must wait until the following year to contribute again.

Removing and replacing money in a single year means you’ll get dinged for 1 per cent of the amount you contributed over the initial $5,000.

http://www.thestar.com/business/article/822383--roseman-taxpayers-hit-with-penalties-on-tax-free-savings-accounts?bn=1


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pratickm   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 12-06-10 19:56:49

Geez man, trust people to screw up such a near-perfect scheme of tax sheltering.
The rules were very clear at the begining - you must wait until next year to re-contribute any withdrawals.
Doing things like this simply give the govt. an excuse to clawback the scheme or abolish it altogether.
Next elections, another political party comes in and says that TFSA is being abused by people so we are dissolving the scheme.
People have been using it as a day trading account, as an alternative chequing account and whatnot.
We all will suffer for the follies of some.


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benparsad   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-06-10 01:58:21

Hi;

I feel, I am not getting all the benifit of a TFSA account. In my opinion, this TFSA has edge over any simple saving account for following only-

Assuming 2 % interset, tax bracket of 27 %, a saving of 0.27*0.02*5000 =
which is saving of $ 27 in first year, $ 54 in second and so on ...

Is there more than that?

-Ben



Iceberg   
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Posts: 919
Location: GTA and beyond

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-06-10 09:15:24

yes, the rules were very clear and people have just goofed. however many institutions have also reported incorrectly. they have reported transfers of tfsa from one institution to another as contributions which should not be the case.

secondly, day trading was always ok. cra never objected to that. the problem came up when people abused the tfsa to transact swaps between tfsa and rsp account and in turn transferring all the wealth from rsp to tfsa and withdraw from tfsa and pay zero tax to cra. those people i am sure are in big trouble with cra.

p.s. the 'shift key' has gone 'cuckoo'. so no caps.


Quote:
Originally posted by pratickm

Geez man, trust people to screw up such a near-perfect scheme of tax sheltering.
The rules were very clear at the begining - you must wait until next year to re-contribute any withdrawals.
Doing things like this simply give the govt. an excuse to clawback the scheme or abolish it altogether.
Next elections, another political party comes in and says that TFSA is being abused by people so we are dissolving the scheme.
People have been using it as a day trading account, as an alternative chequing account and whatnot.
We all will suffer for the follies of some.



Iceberg   
Member since: May 05
Posts: 919
Location: GTA and beyond

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-06-10 09:16:54

please do not buy gic's in tfsa. what are you saving in terms of taxes. buy stocks - good dividend paying ones or mutual funds.

Quote:
Originally posted by benparsad

Hi;

I feel, I am not getting all the benifit of a TFSA account. In my opinion, this TFSA has edge over any simple saving account for following only-

Assuming 2 % interset, tax bracket of 27 %, a saving of 0.27*0.02*5000 =
which is saving of $ 27 in first year, $ 54 in second and so on ...

Is there more than that?

-Ben



DesiTiger   
Member since: Aug 03
Posts: 1205
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-06-10 10:10:08

Quote:
Originally posted by benparsad

Hi;

I feel, I am not getting all the benifit of a TFSA account. In my opinion, this TFSA has edge over any simple saving account for following only-

Assuming 2 % interset, tax bracket of 27 %, a saving of 0.27*0.02*5000 =
which is saving of $ 27 in first year, $ 54 in second and so on ...

Is there more than that?

-Ben



As far as I know, this is it. Just another way for the Govt. of Canada to pull wool over people's eyes. What surprises me is how many people go giddy over the so called "tax savings" but can't get the simple math above :(


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Pramod Chopra   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 1284
Location: Pickering, ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 13-06-10 11:18:06

Quote:
Originally posted by pratickm

Geez man, trust people to screw up such a near-perfect scheme of tax sheltering.
The rules were very clear at the begining - you must wait until next year to re-contribute any withdrawals.
Doing things like this simply give the govt. an excuse to clawback the scheme or abolish it altogether.
Next elections, another political party comes in and says that TFSA is being abused by people so we are dissolving the scheme.
People have been using it as a day trading account, as an alternative chequing account and whatnot.
We all will suffer for the follies of some.



Hi Pratick,

You are right that it is a very good vehicle for savings and improving your net worth slowly over time if used properly.

However, I believe that the name should have been TAX FREE SAVINGS PLAN instead of TAX FREE SAVINGS ACCOUNT. It gives the impression to people at large that it is a savings account which can only be opened with banks and can be used freely and that is causing confusion with general public and I believe the banks do not do a good job educating people when they open this account. I do not think they generally tell them that this is a very sophisticated investment vehicle where in they can have all those investments which generally can be held in an RRSP account and may be the people do not understand the rules attached with withdrawals and contribution for this type of account.




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