Any take on this who thinks Stephen Harper is doing great job


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sguk   
Member since: Mar 09
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-04-11 14:50:22

Listen babu, it doesnt make sense.

Harper inherited a booming economy. When the conversatives came to power we had a budget surplus, built by the liberals through competent economic management [Paul Martin's deserves this credit]

What harper did was to waste it on gst tax cuts when most economists said that wasnt a good idea.

with regards to the canadian economy everyone knows that due to oil and natural resources that we've had good time!

Harper and conversatives are just about sound bites.

Oh, and implementing racist immigration policy.

Don't elect Harper.


Quote:
Originally posted by DesiBabu70

Quote:
Originally posted by Desi # 1
His vision for Canada is reflected here:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/04/13/cv-election-conservative-ethnic-vote.html#

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/04/12/fantino-riding-association-resignations.html


see you are just subjecting yourself to confirmation bias.
this thing with the email sent to the Arab society was just some stupid campaign recruit who has nothing to do with Stephen Harper and other true leaders.
he is like 50 steps lower in the ladder. most of these dudes are usually 16 year old school kids looking for summer jobs.
who cares about these dudes.
focus on the true issues.
if you go around looking for negative news articles about anybody in the world you will find it.
these days their are websites that say Mahatma Gandhi was a gay, Nehru was a child molestor and what not.
let's focus on the true issues.

the economic recession was not Harper's fault.
he has done the best that can be expected under such circumstances.
yes there is much more to be done and you can't support all causes at all times.
choices have to be made.
look at Obama and the US.
even though Obama is supposed to be such a learned and capable man, he has not managed the US economy well during the recession.
some of the things he did has backfired.

look at Europe and the mess they are in.

we should be hugely thankful we are better off.

you are just buying into this whole liberal left wing personal attacks against Harper as a man.
it's all political hogwash.
the opposition has nothing concrete to use against him so they resort to personal attacks and call him names like autocratic, un-democratic.
notice how he never called any names to any of the other guys and never made personal attacks.

even Layton was doing personal attacks again Ignatieff, but Harper never did.
that is because he has concrete issues on his side.

he is not perfect of course and there are many things in his policies that I do not agree with.
but we have to give him a fair and clear chance.

if for now other reason, then simply for navigating us through the recession, he deserves a full majority and a full 5 year term.
let's give him a full term as majority govt. and see where we are in 2015.
He has said he can balance the budget by then, give him a chance.

the last thing I'd say in this matter is that the things Libs and NDP are proposing are simply not doable without substantial increase in taxes.
they wanna double CPP, double GIS, huge education funding and are saying all nice feel good things.
there is no way they can implement even half of what they are promising.
and even that will require large increases in taxes.
increasing corporate taxes from 16% to 18% will not be enough.
and it will cause more damage.

we are where we are...Harper has had 2 turns as minority PM.
give him a fair and square chance as a full majority leader and see.
after that, if Iggy is still around (I doubt that), you may vote for him.

of course I'm not telling you how to vote, this is just my opinion.



Your friend   
Member since: Apr 06
Posts: 325
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-04-11 15:58:52

Quote:
Originally posted by sguk

Listen babu, it doesnt make sense.

Harper inherited a booming economy. When the conversatives came to power we had a budget surplus, built by the liberals through competent economic management [Paul Martin's deserves this credit]

What harper did was to waste it on gst tax cuts when most economists said that wasnt a good idea.

with regards to the canadian economy everyone knows that due to oil and natural resources that we've had good time!

Harper and conversatives are just about sound bites.

Oh, and implementing racist immigration policy.

Don't elect Harper.


Quote:
Originally posted by DesiBabu70

Quote:
Originally posted by Desi # 1
His vision for Canada is reflected here:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/04/13/cv-election-conservative-ethnic-vote.html#

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2011/04/12/fantino-riding-association-resignations.html


see you are just subjecting yourself to confirmation bias.
this thing with the email sent to the Arab society was just some stupid campaign recruit who has nothing to do with Stephen Harper and other true leaders.
he is like 50 steps lower in the ladder. most of these dudes are usually 16 year old school kids looking for summer jobs.
who cares about these dudes.
focus on the true issues.
if you go around looking for negative news articles about anybody in the world you will find it.
these days their are websites that say Mahatma Gandhi was a gay, Nehru was a child molestor and what not.
let's focus on the true issues.

the economic recession was not Harper's fault.
he has done the best that can be expected under such circumstances.
yes there is much more to be done and you can't support all causes at all times.
choices have to be made.
look at Obama and the US.
even though Obama is supposed to be such a learned and capable man, he has not managed the US economy well during the recession.
some of the things he did has backfired.

look at Europe and the mess they are in.

we should be hugely thankful we are better off.

you are just buying into this whole liberal left wing personal attacks against Harper as a man.
it's all political hogwash.
the opposition has nothing concrete to use against him so they resort to personal attacks and call him names like autocratic, un-democratic.
notice how he never called any names to any of the other guys and never made personal attacks.

even Layton was doing personal attacks again Ignatieff, but Harper never did.
that is because he has concrete issues on his side.

he is not perfect of course and there are many things in his policies that I do not agree with.
but we have to give him a fair and clear chance.

if for now other reason, then simply for navigating us through the recession, he deserves a full majority and a full 5 year term.
let's give him a full term as majority govt. and see where we are in 2015.
He has said he can balance the budget by then, give him a chance.

the last thing I'd say in this matter is that the things Libs and NDP are proposing are simply not doable without substantial increase in taxes.
they wanna double CPP, double GIS, huge education funding and are saying all nice feel good things.
there is no way they can implement even half of what they are promising.
and even that will require large increases in taxes.
increasing corporate taxes from 16% to 18% will not be enough.
and it will cause more damage.

we are where we are...Harper has had 2 turns as minority PM.
give him a fair and square chance as a full majority leader and see.
after that, if Iggy is still around (I doubt that), you may vote for him.

of course I'm not telling you how to vote, this is just my opinion.




Well said :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:


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febpreet   
Member since: Jan 07
Posts: 3252
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-04-11 16:13:10

Quote:
Originally posted by Your friend

Well said :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:



Who said it well? You quoted three messages that are quite contrary to each other.



Your friend   
Member since: Apr 06
Posts: 325
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-04-11 16:22:41

I mean this:



Listen babu, it doesnt make sense.

Harper inherited a booming economy. When the conversatives came to power we had a budget surplus, built by the liberals through competent economic management [Paul Martin's deserves this credit]

What harper did was to waste it on gst tax cuts when most economists said that wasnt a good idea.

with regards to the canadian economy everyone knows that due to oil and natural resources that we've had good time!

Harper and conversatives are just about sound bites.

Oh, and implementing racist immigration policy.

Don't elect Harper.


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He who has not acquired one of the following: religious merit (dharma), wealth (artha), satisfaction of desires (kama), or liberation (moksa) is repeatedly born to die


Desi # 1   
Member since: Dec 03
Posts: 1420
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-04-11 16:40:04

shit harper did . ca

http://www.shitharperdid.ca/

Hey Stephen Harper, stop creeping me on Facebook
940 videos Subscribe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6hDv6gCe1I&feature=player_detailpage


It's time to stop the Stephen Harper Gravy Train
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qi86pDt30D4



Vandematram   
Member since: Nov 08
Posts: 1448
Location: Sunny - Leone

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-04-11 16:59:39

Scandal brewing at Ignatieffs household.

Liberal leader Ignatieffs wife is of hungarian origin and she has both hungarian and british passport.

Since last 3 years they have been in Canada she has not bothered to get her Canadian passport.

What will happen when he becomes the PM of Canada and his wife is not a Canadian citizen?.

Hmmmmmmmm.........smells trouble.


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DesiBabu70   
Member since: Feb 04
Posts: 213
Location: St. Catherines ON

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 14-04-11 17:39:23

Quote:
Originally posted by Your friend
Harper inherited a booming economy. When the conversatives came to power we had a budget surplus, built by the liberals through competent economic management [Paul Martin's deserves this credit]

i'm not a partisan, so i'll say this that Paul Martin was a better PM than some of the other jokers like Jean Cretin.
however, he doesn't get the credit for balancing the budget.

it was Brian Mulroney back in the early 1990s by implementing the GST.
he got a lot of crap and fire for that.
but it was the GST that allowed to economy to recover in the 1990s and get the budget in better shape.

if you don't want to give credit to Harper and want to look back, then we have to keep looking back beyond Martin back to the Mulroney days.
It was Mulroney that had to make tough decisions to recover the country from the disastrous Trudeau years of huge tax-and-spend....a policy and attitude that is reflected in Ignatiev, and his corrupt personal appointments and palm-greasing...a policy and attitude that is reflected in Jean Crechin and Dalton McGuinty.

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with regards to the canadian economy everyone knows that due to oil and natural resources that we've had good time!
oh la la...Russia has a lot of oil, but they are not doing as well.
South Africa has a lot of gold and diamons, but they are not doing well.

ironically, people that claim that Canada is doing well only because of oil reserves and not because of good govt. policy often forget what the left leaders like Ignatiev and Layton plan to do....they have said clearly that they will impose deep taxes and penalties on the oil companies.
Layton is so anti-corporation and anti-business that he has no idea what makes the wheel go round.
he has specifically named Exxon-Mobil, BP and Shell in his hate spewing anti-corporation speeches.
he's totally out to lunch.

i can guarantee you that the moment he's elected (if he is) the oil companies will simply pack up and leave.
I wonder where that will leave your oil rich economy?
Ignatiev on the other hand has a little more sense.
he knows that there is no way he can operate the country by pissing off large corporations, esp. the oil companies.
so he won't touch them.
how then will he pay for all his nice election promises?
aha....you guessed it....raise taxes

Quote:
Oh, and implementing racist immigration policy
the liberals have convinced everyone that the PCs are racist....good strategy.
but think about it.
Harper came into power in 2006.
the immigration queues were already backed up at that time.
the backup has been there for decades and decades.
they didn't create it.
in fact, they cleaned up the immigration mess.
wait times are now gone and skilled worker immigration is processed within 6 months.
I know you are thinking of family class immigration.
it is a sore point for many.
see i also have aged parents and they are waiting for sponsorship for years.
but there is nothing that any party can do about that.
no one, not even the kind hearted Ignatiev can fix that.
the best that anyone can do is increase the quota by maybe a 1,000 or so.
no party can clear the queue in 5 years.

Desi#1 is just selectively finding articles on the Internet that criticize every aspect of Harper.
who cares if he stares?
who cares about his smile?
not everyone is camera-friendly and photogenic.
if you ask me, Ignatiev looks like Count Dracula.

if you go looking on the Internet for dirt on anyone you will find it.
as I said you will find websites claiming Mahatma Gandhi was gay and Nehru was a child molestor and Abraham Lincoln had bipolar disorder.

if Harper doesn't win majority, the others will simply form a coalition govt. and he will have to resign.
Ignatiev will be PM supported by the socialist Layton and the separatist Gisseppe.
you want to imagine what will happen?
if you saw the debates you can predict what will happen.
everyone will want to implement their pet policies and the middle class will be taxed to pay for all that.
Layton's plan reads like a horror story and the Bloc's plan is a nightmare.
don't let it happen




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