Forbes magazine has put out a list of the world’s 1,210 billionaires. Fifty-five of them are Indians. A billion dollars is Rs. 4,500 crore. A Baniya is a member of the Vaish caste, originating mainly from Rajasthan and Gujarat.

They are under 1% of India’s population.
India’s richest man is a Baniya (Lakshmi Mittal, world’s sixth richest with $31.1 billion), India’s second richest man is a Baniya (Mukesh Ambani, $27 billion), India’s third richest man is a Khoja (Azim Premji, $16.8 billion), India’s fourth richest men are Baniyas (Shashi and Ravi Ruia, $15.8 billion), India’s fifth richest person is a Baniya (Savitri Jindal, $13.2 billion), India’s sixth richest man is a Baniya (Gautam Adani, $10 billion), India’s seventh richest man is a Baniya (Kumar Mangalam Birla, $9.2 billion), India’s eighth richest man is a Baniya (Anil Ambani, $8.8 billion), India’s ninth richest man is a Baniya (Sunil Mittal, $8.3 billion). India’s 10th richest man is a Parsi (Adi Godrej, world’s 130th richest with $7.3 billion).

Score: Baniyas 8, Rest of India 2. If we consider the Gujaratis Godrej and Premji (from the Lohana caste) as coming from mercantile communities then actually Rest of India wasn’t playing this match so far.

India’s 11th richest man is K.P. Singh of DLF ($7.3 billion). He is the first departure from our trend of mercantile castes. Singh is a peasant, the most populous caste grouping of India, about 50% of our population. From numbers 11 to 20, there are five Baniyas. They are Anil Agarwal of Vedanta ($6.4 billion), Dilip Shanghvi of Sun Pharma ($6.1 billion), Uday Kotak ($3.2 billion), Subhash Chandra Goel of Zee, ($2.9 billion), and Pankaj Patel of Cadila ($2.7 billion). The non-Baniyas are Shiv Nadar of HCL ($5.6 billion), Malvinder and Shivinder Singh of Ranbaxy ($4.1 billion), Kalanithi Maran of Sun TV ($3.5 billion), Mukesh Jagtiani of Landmark ($3 billion)

Between 21 and 30, there are five Baniyas. They are Indu Jain of The Times of India ($2.6 billion), Desh Bandhu Gupta of Lupin ($2.1 billion), Sudhir and Samir Mehta of Torrent ($2 billion), Aloke Lohia of Indorama ($2 billion) and Venugopal Dhoot of Videocon ($1.9 billion). The five non-Baniyas are G.M. Rao of GMR ($2.6 billion), Cyrus Poonawalla of the Serum Institute ($2.3 billion), Mumbai builder Rajan Raheja ($2.2 billion), Narayana Murthy ($2 billion) and Gautam Thapar of Avantha ($2 billion). Of the non-Baniyas, three are from mercantile communities: Poonawalla (Parsi), Raheja (Shikarpuri Sindhi) and Thapar (Khatri). Murthy is Brahmin.

Between 31 and 40 are two Baniyas: Rahul Bajaj ($1.6 billion) and Ajay Piramal ($1.4 billion). The non-Baniyas include three Brahmins: Nandan Nilekani ($1.8 billion) and S. Gopalakrishnan ($1.6 billion) of Infosys, and Vijay Mallya ($1.4 billion). Three of the others are from mercantile castes: Chandru Raheja ($1.9 billion), Brijmohan Lall Munjal of Hero Motors ($1.5 billion) and Vikas Oberoi ($1.4 billion). The last two are K. Anji Reddy ($1.5 billion) (from Andhra’s dominant peasant community) and Ajay Kalsi of Indus Gas ($1.7 billion).

Between 41 and 50 are five Baniyas. They are R.P. Goenka ($1.3 billion), Rakesh Jhunjhunwala ($1.2 billion), Brij Bhushan Singhal ($1.2 billion), B.K. Modi ($1.1 billion) and Mumbai builder Mangal Prabhat Lodha ($1.1 billion). The non-Baniyas are Baba Kalyani of Bharat Forge ($1.3 billion), Keshub Mahindra ($1.2 billion), K. Dinesh ($1.2 billion) and S.D. Shibulal ($1.1 billion) of Infosys, and Yusuf Hamied of Cipla ($1.1 billion).

The last five, from 51 to 55, include two Baniyas: Mumbai builder Mofatraj Munot of Kalpataru ($1 billion) and Ashwin Dani of Asian Paints ($1 billion). Two of the others are from mercantile castes: Parsi Anu Aga of Thermax ($1 billion) and Khatri Harindarpal Banga of Noble ($1 billion). Delhi builder Ramesh Chandra of Unitech ($1 billion) ends our list of Indians with a billion dollars or more.

The list has three Parsis, two Muslims and Sikhs in one spot (shared by the Ranbaxy Singhs). Banga is also a Sikh name but Harindarpal is clean-shaven. All of them, except Poonawalla, have inherited their wealth, though in the case of one (Premji), he took a small firm and made it global. There is nobody from the scheduled tribes or castes.

India’s large peasant castes have some representation (Singh, Patel, Reddy), but not much.

There are 26 Baniyas on our list. Many of them inherited their wealth, but just as many (Mittal, Ruias, Adani, Dhoot among others) are self-made.

The list has 16 Rajasthanis, and 13 Gujaratis. Every single Rajasthani is from one caste, Vaish, though they are from two faiths: Hindu and Jain.

Only Gujarat is capable of producing billionaires drawn from four different faiths—Hindu, Parsi, Jain and Muslim—and three different castes: Baniya, Khatri and peasant. This is unique in India and there is something about this secular mercantile culture that produces great men across communities. What is it? Three out of the four biggest leaders of the subcontinent under British rule were Gujarati, and they were drawn from these three castes: Gandhi, Jinnah and Patel. Only 5% of India’s population, Gujaratis don’t have the numbers to dominate its democratic politics. But businesses are not run in democratic fashion. And to rise, you need quality, not quantity.

The heartland of India, where our quantity resides, is missing from this list. Bihar, Bengal, Madhya Pradesh, Odisha, Uttar Pradesh have little or no representation and this does not surprise us.

On the list are 10 south Indians, in proportion to their 20% share of India’s population. The famous five from Infosys are obviously self-made. Of the others, four are first-generation wealthy. This is a good indicator for the future, and it restores some balance in favour of Rest of India.

Two final observations. India’s greatest businessman is not on this list. Why is that? It is because Ratan Tata owns less than 1% of Tata Sons. He is exceptional in every way.


And now the important , but SAD Reality

How many Baniyas in our top 20 attended the Buffett-Gates meeting to consider giving part of their wealth to philanthropy?

NONE AT ALL !!

The Baniya’s culture of focused wealth creation is very good in many ways, but not all of this culture is good.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
mor

Whenever you experience joy, peace, security, equanimity or purity, it is only because you are aligned with ALMIGHTY.

I do not think Forbes Magazine did a good analysis. It is typical of "reputed" magazines to publish garbage. Unfortunately, most people fall for such garbage and as a result people like MMS and Obama are ruling.

When I read your post, I immediately realized that this s**t published by Fortune is absolutely faulty. What is striking to me is that it does not list any politician or bureaucrat. Do you think that, for example, are not Billioners?

1. MMS
2. SONIA family members like Rahul, Priyanka, Varda etc.
3. Sharad Pawar
4. Lalu
5. Mayawati
Mulayam, Samuel Raj Shekhar Reddy, Ex Satyam Owner, All past CMs of Maharashtra, West Bengal, UP, Bihar etc.

All past Chief Cabinet secretaries

Haval operators like Hasan Ali,

Arms dealers, Mine owners like Reddy brothers of Karnataka

You can include in the list many more names.

As regards "Charity" nonsense, please Google how Canadian charities work and what PERCENTAGE of their collection actually go towards Charity.charity is a big humbug.

As regards Bill Gates, read below as to who benefits from his "charity"


Bill Gates Funds Gulen
Islamist Movement
Family Security Matters
25 May 2010
By Paul Williams, PhD

The Fethullah Gulen movement, which seeks to restore the Ottoman Empire, has found a friend and benefactor in Bill Gates of Microsoft fame. Mr. Gates is ranked the third wealthiest person on planet earth.

In 2007, through the Texas High School Project, the Gates Foundation shelled out $10,550,000 to the Cosmos Foundation, a Gulen enterprise that operates 25 publicly funded charter schools in Texas .

The Internal Revenue Service Form 990 for Cosmos shows that the Cosmos Foundation received
$41,570,721 from taxpayers.At present, there are 85 Gulan madrassahs (Islamic schools) in the United States, and all operate with public funding.At the Gulen schools, students are indoctrinated in Turkish culture, language, and religion so that they may be of service in making Fethullah Gulan’s dream of a
universal caliphate a reality. The madrassahs sponsor Turkish clubs, Turkish language societies, Turkish dance groups, and annual trips to Istanbul .



http://www.peytonwolcott.com/Charters_Cosmos.html

http://moneyjihad.wordpress.com/2011/07/14/gulen-movement-funded-by-bill-gates/

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Nightmare

I do not think Forbes Magazine did a good analysis. It is typical of "reputed" magazines to publish garbage. Unfortunately, most people fall for such garbage and as a result people like MMS and Obama are ruling.

When I read your post, I immediately realized that this s**t published by Fortune is absolutely faulty. What is striking to me is that it does not list any politician or bureaucrat. Do you think that, for example, are not Billioners?

1. MMS
2. SONIA family members like Rahul, Priyanka, Varda etc.
3. Sharad Pawar
4. Lalu
5. Mayawati
Mulayam, Samuel Raj Shekhar Reddy, Ex Satyam Owner, All past CMs of Maharashtra, West Bengal, UP, Bihar etc.

All past Chief Cabinet secretaries

Haval operators like Hasan Ali,

Arms dealers, Mine owners like Reddy brothers of Karnataka

You can include in the list many more names.

As regards "Charity" nonsense, please Google how Canadian charities work and what PERCENTAGE of their collection actually go towards Charity.charity is a big humbug.

As regards Bill Gates, read below as to who benefits from his "charity"


Bill Gates Funds Gulen
Islamist Movement
Family Security Matters
25 May 2010
By Paul Williams, PhD

The Fethullah Gulen movement, which seeks to restore the Ottoman Empire, has found a friend and benefactor in Bill Gates of Microsoft fame. Mr. Gates is ranked the third wealthiest person on planet earth.

In 2007, through the Texas High School Project, the Gates Foundation shelled out $10,550,000 to the Cosmos Foundation, a Gulen enterprise that operates 25 publicly funded charter schools in Texas .

The Internal Revenue Service Form 990 for Cosmos shows that the Cosmos Foundation received
$41,570,721 from taxpayers.At present, there are 85 Gulan madrassahs (Islamic schools) in the United States, and all operate with public funding.At the Gulen schools, students are indoctrinated in Turkish culture, language, and religion so that they may be of service in making Fethullah Gulan’s dream of a
universal caliphate a reality. The madrassahs sponsor Turkish clubs, Turkish language societies, Turkish dance groups, and annual trips to Istanbul .



http://www.peytonwolcott.com/Charters_Cosmos.html

---

Quote:

---

Originally posted by sguk

On a quick google search this came up:

http://moneyjihad.wordpress.com/2011/07/14/gulen-movement-funded-by-bill-gates/

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Nightmare

I do not think Forbes Magazine did a good analysis. It is typical of "reputed" magazines to publish garbage. Unfortunately, most people fall for such garbage and as a result people like MMS and Obama are ruling.

When I read your post, I immediately realized that this s**t published by Fortune is absolutely faulty. What is striking to me is that it does not list any politician or bureaucrat. Do you think that, for example, are not Billioners?

1. MMS
2. SONIA family members like Rahul, Priyanka, Varda etc.
3. Sharad Pawar
4. Lalu
5. Mayawati
Mulayam, Samuel Raj Shekhar Reddy, Ex Satyam Owner, All past CMs of Maharashtra, West Bengal, UP, Bihar etc.

All past Chief Cabinet secretaries

Haval operators like Hasan Ali,

Arms dealers, Mine owners like Reddy brothers of Karnataka

You can include in the list many more names.

As regards "Charity" nonsense, please Google how Canadian charities work and what PERCENTAGE of their collection actually go towards Charity.charity is a big humbug.

As regards Bill Gates, read below as to who benefits from his "charity"


Bill Gates Funds Gulen
Islamist Movement
Family Security Matters
25 May 2010
By Paul Williams, PhD

The Fethullah Gulen movement, which seeks to restore the Ottoman Empire, has found a friend and benefactor in Bill Gates of Microsoft fame. Mr. Gates is ranked the third wealthiest person on planet earth.

In 2007, through the Texas High School Project, the Gates Foundation shelled out $10,550,000 to the Cosmos Foundation, a Gulen enterprise that operates 25 publicly funded charter schools in Texas .

The Internal Revenue Service Form 990 for Cosmos shows that the Cosmos Foundation received
$41,570,721 from taxpayers.At present, there are 85 Gulan madrassahs (Islamic schools) in the United States, and all operate with public funding.At the Gulen schools, students are indoctrinated in Turkish culture, language, and religion so that they may be of service in making Fethullah Gulan’s dream of a
universal caliphate a reality. The madrassahs sponsor Turkish clubs, Turkish language societies, Turkish dance groups, and annual trips to Istanbul .



http://www.peytonwolcott.com/Charters_Cosmos.html

---

---

OK, Nightmare, what you are telling may be right.
But you should understand that this list contains the names whose wealth is declared officially.
There are many Politicians/Thieves/Robbers in India who may be more richer, but their wealth kept secret and not officially shown.
So don't blame the 'Forbes' magazine.

If u know a Gujarati, u will know that most of them have a hard time conforming to 9 to 5 job..

They all want to run their own business and will go to any extent to try their hand in it , which includes losing their last penny.

No wonder the Gujjus rule in the indian business world..

there is a lot for us to learn from their entrepreneurial spirit.

Quote:

---

Originally posted by dudewheresmycar

If u know a Gujarati, u will know that most of them have a hard time conforming to 9 to 5 job..

They all want to run their own business and will go to any extent to try their hand in it , which includes losing their last penny.

No wonder the Gujjus rule in the indian business world..

there is a lot for us to learn from their entrepreneurial spirit.

---

-----------------------------------------------------------------
pranav shah