CANADA: Worst Immigration System in the World


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Vandematram   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-03-12 20:06:19

TK you'll love this article.

http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/09/06/canada-worst-immigration-system-in-the-world/


A recent study by two academics states the obvious: Immigration should fluctuate with economic conditions.

Its analysis showed how poorly most of Canada’s newcomers have fared and blamed recessions. But the blame is Canada’s badly devised immigration system dating back to 1986.

The fix is simple, but politically perilous which is why it hasn’t tackled by any federal government. It’s time it was.

Immigration Canada should return to Manpower and Immigration Canada which is how it operated for the decades between the Second World War and 1986. And refugees should be handled separately because they are a humanitarian issue which every civilized nation should lend a helping hand to alleviate.

Under Manpower and Immigration, newcomers would be recruited based on economic conditions, or job needs, at the time in Canada. That resulted in fluctuations in numbers. One year, 60,000 or so would be admitted based on their skills and demand in the Canadian marketplace for them. The next year may leap to 120,000 or so because of greater demand and the availability of a pool of appropriate workers.

Before 1986, immigration applicants would have to prove their credentials. There was a point system, color and racially blind, based on education, the ability to speak English or French, skills and professional standing. These were matched to what Manpower determined was needed in the country.

If they had the requisite points, they were personally interviewed, their health and financial information was gathered and scrupulously examined.

The result was that those lucky enough to qualify and got the green light, entered a Canadian labor market that needed what they had to offer. They found employment or, in many cases, were coming here to a job that had already been organized for them.

Then in 1986, the Mulroney government drove Immigration off the rails.

In the spirit of free trade, it decided that Canada needed 250,000 immigrants annually. This quota was unprecedented and was totally decoupled from manpower needs in the economy.



The bureaucracy couldn’t process that number so the points system was more or less abandoned and to make the requisite numbers, the family reunification category was opened wide. The result is that for the past 25 years, more than half of those admitted into Canada have come in his way and would never have qualified before. So it’s little wonder their outcomes have been so abysmal, recession or no recession.

The 250,000 number was crazy and equivalent to a CEO telling his Human Resources Department to go out and hire 250,000 people in 12 months whether or not there was work or a need for their skills. Of course, many of the 250,000 are minors and elders but this has also imposed an enormous financial burden on Canada, notably its principle immigrant destinations of Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver.

Allowing people into a sophisticated economy they are not suited to participate in is unfair to them and unfair to the country. For instance, last year some 250,000 immigrants or relatives were allowed into Canada and temporary work permits had to be issued to another 150,000 skilled workers to do jobs that the immigrants couldn’t fill.

Refugees are an entirely different issue which is why a separate department would be in order. These are people in dire circumstances who must be bootstrapped when they arrived. Unfortunately, that’s not always been the case and thousands have taken places as refugees who should have been evaluated properly instead as immigrants.

Canada cannot be indifferent to the need to reform its recruitment policies around the world. Currently, unemployment is a respectable 8% nationally, but the real unemployment and under-employment situation for newcomers is shockingly high in cities like Toronto, double or worse.

A more appropriate study should be to do a cost-benefit analysis of the past 25 years of immigration from health care and education to housing, welfare and other expenses.
And another cost-benefit analysis of the previous 25 years when the government responsibly insured success for newcomers by matching them to existing and future marketplace conditions.


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febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-03-12 01:13:53

Absolutely true.

Compare this to the Australian immigration system, where actually immigrants prosper after the move. Canadian immigration system truly needs an overhaul. 250,000 quota in an year is an unrealistic number in this age and economy.

Time for a change.



tamilkuravan   
Member since: Jun 05
Posts: 5775
Location: God's own country

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-03-12 07:56:58

Compare this to the Australian immigration system, where actually immigrants prosper after the move
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Febpreeth,
Any statistics for the above statement?
I know a number of friends who have prospered greatly post 2000, but I would want to see an objective reply before I take the plunge.

Peace


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sanchita   
Member since: Nov 03
Posts: 59
Location: canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-03-12 08:21:26

Quote:
Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Compare this to the Australian immigration system, where actually immigrants prosper after the move
****************
Febpreeth,
Any statistics for the above statement?
I know a number of friends who have prospered greatly post 2000, but I would want to see an objective reply before I take the plunge.

Peace




Aren't you very happy in India?????


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spaceman   
Member since: Feb 07
Posts: 108
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-03-12 09:16:14

Quote:


Febpreeth,
Any statistics for the above statement?
I know a number of friends who have prospered greatly post 2000, but I would want to see an objective reply before I take the plunge.

Peace




Do you think anyone will care views from a person who was loser here?

Since you are in India why don't you try to make it a better place (remove corruption, lower inflation rate, stop rape every 2nd day in Delhi/Gurgaon region etc).

I don't think anyone on this form cares what you rant.

Peace



Vandematram   
Member since: Nov 08
Posts: 1448
Location: Sunny - Leone

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-03-12 09:43:49

The author of this article had visited my child's university class as a guest lecturer yesterday.

Her advice to the class was as follows:

1. Learn Chinese and if possible look for a stint in China.

2. If you are looking at jobs in Canada do the following:

A. Move to Alberta,

B. Move to Alberta,

C. Move to Alberta

If Not move to Saskatchewan.

Move out of Ontario as it is saturated, with limited resources you will stagnate. You save about 11,000 bucks more in Alberta over Ontario due it's tax policy even when the weather is harsh.

She was not so Gung Ho about India to the political leadership, corruption and the population growth.

This was the words of this immigrant from USA to Canada.


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Sunny Leone a true Canadian DESI now back in India !.


Vandematram   
Member since: Nov 08
Posts: 1448
Location: Sunny - Leone

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-03-12 09:44:59

The author of this article had visited my child's university class as a guest lecturer yesterday.

Her advice to the class was as follows:

1. Learn Chinese and if possible look for a stint in China.

2. If you are looking at jobs in Canada do the following:

A. Move to Alberta,

B. Move to Alberta,

C. Move to Alberta

If Not move to Saskatchewan.

Move out of Ontario as it is saturated, with limited resources you will stagnate. You save about 11,000 bucks more in Alberta over Ontario due it's tax policy even when the weather is harsh.

She was not so Gung Ho about India to the political leadership, corruption and the population growth.

This was the words of this immigrant from USA to Canada.


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Sunny Leone a true Canadian DESI now back in India !.




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