Article: It’s not Pakistan that is in denial, it’s India.
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Posted on: 16-07-12 16:03:35
It is not about the act of actually letting a cricket team in, I agree that makes no difference. It is about the message you are sending. The message of utter and complete apathy to your citizens and the message of "everything's fine" to Pakistan. If someone from a neighbor's family attacked someone in your family, would it be prudent to invite them over for dinner, even though that act likely will have no bearing on future attacks? The snub is largely symbolic but necessary.
Generally, the snub is also accompanied by strategic action, but nothing of that sort is going to happen.
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Allow the Paki cricket team to come but send such an invisible team there which could take out Dawood while match is in its final over.
I wish. But this kind of stuff only happens in Bollywood movies. They can't even take care of the the tool they have in custody, who sprayed bullets and murdered scores of Indians in India (i.e. unless it is just time to move on from the Mumbai attacks like nothing happened). He might request a TV when the matches happen and they'll probably give him one.
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Originally posted by BlueLobster
If someone from a neighbor's family attacked someone in your family, would it be prudent to invite them over for dinner, even though that act likely will have no bearing on future attacks? The snub is largely symbolic but necessary.
Although these are two different things..lets talk this in detail..
you live in one of the towhomes that are in row and yours is surrounded by different neighbours and each one separated only by a common wall. Remember you do not have an option to move out anytime for generation after generation....Now this happens that a member from one of the close neighbour attacks your family member..after a while you come to know that the the member that attacked you from that family is aloof in that family and the family head also do not have control over this member. .years passed by no one can stand other one.
Now that neighbour's 3 year old daughter steps into your driveway on invitation from your 3 year old daughter would you stop that..? especially the neighbours duaghter is poor and weak and malnutritioned. would you stop them from exchanging hellos and occassionally play for a few moments under your watch? if you still stop them...for how long? if this daughter does not get to play..next generation would approach..you cannot stop it. What options do you have?
wipe out entire other family?
let neighbour wipe out your family?
you can shoo away the other little kid and scold yours but how is that going to help..the guy who is sitting aloof..the 800 pound gorilla, will still plan differnt ways to attack you. the neighbour does not have control over him, nor do you.
Focus more on your security..put up as much feature as possibly you could because you can afford to..?
you should have cameras that could cover not only your backyard and driveway but theirs as well..keep watch on that guy;s movements..moment he steps one inch outside his area all the flodlights and sirens should start to sound..if he is near your stairs you should be ready with your gun to shoot his legs..if he still knocks on your door, shower him with your assault rifle..
I am not saying YOU need to exchange hellos and be friends with neighbour also not saying your daughter should be close friend of their daughter..You do not have a choice but to calm the situation as much as you could..
India is not inviting anyone for dinner or to take away part of Kashmir or any other piece of land. There was an opportunity to retaliate during Kargil which obviously missed....26/11.event..? nah..that govt itself does not have control over things internally how will they control terrorrists there..they are worried about their a$$ else they will get toasted like Bhuttos.
Well, the article in the original post is exactly about this. The conflict is not new, it spans generations. The notion that goodwill toward Pakistan will maybe result in progress and improve relations has been tried many times and has failed every time in the past. To think this will work in the future is the "wishful" or "denial" thinking the author is complaining about.
The answer is not wiping out your neighbor, but steady and strategic defese AND more importantly offense so that you're not always reacting. And this has to be primarily diplomatic (cause nobody wants a war) but supported by intelligence activities, covert most of the time and open when required.
None of this seems to be happening. Instead what will most likely happen now is cricket and other ties will resume, then (God forbid), there is another terrorist incident, and the ties are suspended. i.e. until just enough time has passed such that people have moved on with their lives and the corrupt administrators salivating at the milliions of dollars/rupees of potential revenue/bribes no longer worry about such decisions affecting their re-election prospects.
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Originally posted by BlueLobster
Well, the article in the original post is exactly about this. The conflict is not new, it spans generations. The notion that goodwill toward Pakistan will maybe result in progress and improve relations has been tried many times and has failed every time in the past. To think this will work in the future is the "wishful" or "denial" thinking the author is complaining about.
The answer is not wiping out your neighbor, but steady and strategic defese AND more importantly offense so that you're not always reacting. And this has to be primarily diplomatic (cause nobody wants a war) but supported by intelligence activities, covert most of the time and open when required.
Who is to blame for this? Even though netizens seem to have a strong anti-Congress stance, the fact that we elected them twice in a row and now not a make a big hue and cry about this cricketing decision might prove that fault lies within us - the Indians.
Whether it is cricket or Bollywood - entertainment always trumps national pride. Why otherwise would Paki artists be so revered in Bollywood? Why is the lame argument that art crosses barriers and triumphs political differences, even though it may come indirectly at cost of several innocent lives
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Who is to blame for this?
It is a complex topic with no easy answers, but ultimately the blame has to lie with the population. This is a universal truth, you get the government you deserve and this is even more so in a democracy.
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What the Pakistanis did at Mumbai, we cannot call it conflict. It is sheer Psychopath behaviour to line up people who have come for dinner at Taj and other restaurants and shoot them point blank.
Our "invitation" to these psychopaths is baffling. They have not arrested the criminals and handed out death sentence. Nor have they accepted the heap of evidence provided by us. We may have to meet Pakistan in international competitions or occasionally passenger aircraft from either side have to land because of engine trouble. Let us be civil and be done with these. To invite them and have them as guests of honor is nothing short of suicidal.
For BCCI and the Congress it is politics and money that counts The man on the street do not matter to either of them.
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India is confused whether to call Pakistan, a friend or enemy.
Pakistan clearly knows who it's enemy is. That is the fundamental issue.
Bhootnath: Your example about “playing with neighbour’s daughter” would make sense if you are talking about neighbouring country disputes anywhere in the world. These countries have a basic human values and courtesies which they respect and acknowledge.
With Pakistan, you are dealing with a Grade A Psychopath.
Are you are going to let your kid play with your neighbour, who happens to be say, Luke magnotta?.
Consider these:
During 2005 cricket matches, many Pakistanis who came on cricket visa never went back and are presently untraceable.
ISI Major Sajid Mir, one of the handlers of 26/11, visited India to watch Mohali match in 2005. You think he was there to foster cricketing ties with India?
Rajagopal.
