Posted on: 07-01-13 20:27:54
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Originally posted by dhaval
Blaming the girl is not the right thing to do.
Completely agree!
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But one needs to understand
that everybody around us does not have the same level of education, culture,
consciousness and evolution. Hence to preserve and protect ourselves we
need to develop a higher sense of discrimination, so that we remain alert,
not drop guard and are prepared and planned to deal with situations in life.
India needs an universal basic education system for all which should include
religious philosophy to focus on human character and human value development.
Alongwith religion, some music and culture should be taught to all as well.
We need to become vigilantees so that we all can keep a watch for troubles.
Couldn't disagree more!
You don't need religion to be vigilante and to keep up with troubles.
In my opinion, religion should never be taught in schools and in the public educational institutions. If one needs to teach their kids about their respective religions then it either be home or the religious schools, e.g. Sunday Schools, Madrasah, temples, or alike. Religious education should not have any place in educational institutions, workplace, and Govt. machinery. It's a private matter and should be kept as - at all costs.
Teaching kids the human character, values, ethics in schools is FOR SURE. However, these very traits have nothing to do with religion. The former could well be tought at home by the parents alongwith the balanced upbringing. Religion, on the other hand is much a private affair and how one practices it is all upon oneself and is discretionery.
I have seen enough fights, feuds, and arguments at the religious places to highly doubt if it's solely religion that teaches one to be humane and peace-loving?
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Originally posted by febpreet
Another joker (Asaram) just stood up and thought to take advantage of the situation to keep himself in limelight. I wonder if these people are really that fool to spew such statements without even an iota of a thought process? Greater fools are the people that follow them blindly.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-news/NewDelhi/Gangrape-victim-should-have-begged-for-mercy-Asaram-Bapu/Article1-986079.aspx
Media! Why give them a front-page coverage?
Media is giving its own color to what he has said during a satsang. The whole context is missing, they are just stuck to translated English version of 3-4 sentences he has said. Now they have got masala for 4 days and everybody will be interviewed. Asaram has said this, what do you have to say on this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2P_DIrgnbI
Owaisi can say anything, media does not care!
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Originally posted by febpreet
Quote:
Originally posted by dhaval
Blaming the girl is not the right thing to do.
Completely agree!
Quote:
But one needs to understand
that everybody around us does not have the same level of education, culture,
consciousness and evolution. Hence to preserve and protect ourselves we
need to develop a higher sense of discrimination, so that we remain alert,
not drop guard and are prepared and planned to deal with situations in life.
India needs an universal basic education system for all which should include
religious philosophy to focus on human character and human value development.
Alongwith religion, some music and culture should be taught to all as well.
We need to become vigilantees so that we all can keep a watch for troubles.
Couldn't disagree more!
You don't need religion to be vigilante and to keep up with troubles.
In my opinion, religion should never be taught in schools and in the public educational institutions. If one needs to teach their kids about their respective religions then it either be home or the religious schools, e.g. Sunday Schools, Madrasah, temples, or alike. Religious education should not have any place in educational institutions, workplace, and Govt. machinery. It's a private matter and should be kept as - at all costs.
Teaching kids the human character, values, ethics in schools is FOR SURE. However, these very traits have nothing to do with religion. The former could well be tought at home by the parents alongwith the balanced upbringing. Religion, on the other hand is much a private affair and how one practices it is all upon oneself and is discretionery.
I have seen enough fights, feuds, and arguments at the religious places to highly doubt if it's solely religion that teaches one to be humane and peace-loving?
Nice lecture on role of religion which can be copy/pasted from any blog of Obama lover. As I said before, your mind is warped. You would have no guts to go to a muslim or a hardcore christian and give your lecture, though I agree with you that religion need not necessarily inculcate human values, especially if it is not the Hindu religion. Lol! Hindu never did the Jehad or Crusade and hence your lecture is not of much relevance.
However, you did skirt the main issue here. Your MMS/Sonia, after 60 years of rule have totally failed to provide the security to girls and women. Do you, in all honesty think that it is the RSS workers who rape the women or disrespect them? These rapist are your brothers in arm goons of Kangress and cultureless vultures of Mulayam/Nitish? Maya followers, I know Puttoo and you have no sense of proportion and may be you would quote some BJP/RSS guy who would have rape charges. However, people of India know that RSS workers are decent and honest guys. It is beyond your warped mind to understand culture and its nuances.
Any one from Gujarat knows that girls there move freely even during the late night. I have witnessed girls in very revealing dress moving late in night without being raped. It is thanks to Gujarati culture and Modi. I am sure that your sick mind even cannit imagine that. It is in Kangress, Mulayam and Lalu culture that a girl in Burqa will also be raped.
MMS/Sonia has promoted a culture where the goons rule. It is unfortunate that MSM media is so sick that in any debate, they introduce BJP and Hindu religion and then taking some example of Asaram or RSS leader, make fun of them for their stupid statement and morons like you clap and jump and shout from the lounge chair. It is quite possible that you guys are beneficiary of MMS/Sonia corruption or you are anti-hindu guys venting your feelings here.
I can quote hundred of example of Mullas abusing women or pedophile priests violating children. I am sure you morons are aware of these sick people. But no, you would just quote Asaram and shout that he is anti-woman. You are a gutless coward who posts sick ideas here. If you have any morality, then you would be quoting passages from your religious books advocating child marriages and then condemning it. Chances are that you had a child bride or expect to have one and you better would deride Hindu. Lol!
As I said, MMS/Sonia should have assumed moral responsibility for absolute breakdown of law and order and should have resigned. But they have no moral character at all. Naturally, MMS/Sonia followers like you also are dehumanized people whose only God is money and China. Lol!
Anyway, I am happy that people of Gujarat, in spite of suffering all sorts of discrimanation and injustice have slapped Sonia very hard and kicked MMS ass. It is up to the rest of India to follow suit or else wait for some Akbarrudin Owaisi who would incite his followers to rape their women. In Dhulia, yesterday they raped 3 Hindu women. Their crime? Being Hindu. It is Modiji who taught them a lesson. Gujarat had riots every year from 1969 onwards. They stopped for good since 2002. I am sure if I dig CD website, I would find your posting ruing Modi and his rule. People of Gujarat have sent you a message. learn from it.
Sometimes, mind could have rotten beyond cure. We start thinking that we are the most knowledgeable person. Our path is the only right path – all others are on wrong path. Difference of opinion is not tolerated and others are either friends or enemies. We start hating others. It also influences our views/speech/posts. Owaisi and few posters are good examples of such mind sets.
I would like to copy from my other post as under:
“I can say – Talibanism can penetrate anywhere, anytime – in our religions, in our societies and even in our homes – unknowingly.”
प्रभु सबको सदबुधि दे
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Originally posted by Delhite
Sometimes, mind could have rotten beyond cure. We start thinking that we are the most knowledgeable person. Our path is the only right path – all others are on wrong path. Difference of opinion is not tolerated and others are either friends or enemies. We start hating others. It also influences our views/speech/posts. Owaisi and few posters are good examples of such mind sets.
I would like to copy from my other post as under:
“I can say – Talibanism can penetrate anywhere, anytime – in our religions, in our societies and even in our homes – unknowingly.”
प्रभु सबको सदबुधि दे
Lol! Now trying to occupy high moral grounds. These pseudo guys are even worst than Owaisi. Owaisi, at least is honest in speaking what he believes. These pseudo intelligent guys, when they have no arguments, resort to fakery of hurt feelings.
I do not believe in fakery. My statement may be harsh, rude or insulting but at least those are frank and clearly and unequivocally speak my point of view. By the same count, I do not feel offended by so called insulting or rude statements against me. And believe me, there have been so many. I have made quite a few “enemies” on CD.
I guess you and people of your ilk have no answer to my questions. I cannot keep repeating it. Let me pose those questions one more time.
1.) MSM takes hundreds of interviews and then they publish just a few which portrays Hindu as morons. MSM has one agenda only. To portray Hindu as bigoted , intolerant and antiquated religion.
a) Why do they not interview Narendra Modi, Smriti Irani, Jaitley or Sushma?
b) Why do they not reveal how many people from each party have been interviewed.
c) Why do they not interview Rahul and Priyanka? If these youth leaders refuse to give interview, why do they not let people know that?
d) Why do they talk to Abhishek Manu Singhvi, who was caught on tape sexually exploiting a woman?
2). Why there is no debate on failure of Kangress to prevent rape and oppression of
women after 60 years of rule ?
3) Delhi has been rape capital of the world. MMS/Sonia and Sheila are ruling Delhi for last 10 years. Why are they not being held accountable?
Now my dirty mind has asked these questions. Let me have your Non-Taliban answers.
Here we go again .... another gem and this guy is the home minster ..... he cannot tackle rape so he blames the "stars" ...... shamefull.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/raipur/Chhattisgarh-home-minister-blames-stars-for-crime-against-women/articleshow/17938053.cms
Chhattisgarh home minister blames 'stars' for crime against women
RAIPUR: Facing flak for the Kanker rape case, Chhattisgarh home minister Nanki Ram Kanwar has landed himself in a spot by saying that crimes against women were happening as their stars were in adverse positions, a remark termed as childish and vulgar by the state Congress.
"We have no answer to this rising spate of crimes against women. Stars are not in position," Kanwar told reporters in Raipur.
"Harm can come on a person if the stars are in adverse positions...We have no answer to this, only an astrologer can predict," the state home minister said.
Kanwar's remarks on Monday came after opposition Congress in Chhattisgarh demanded dismissal of the BJP government over the issue of the alleged rape on minor inmates of a government-run residential school for tribal girls in Kanker district, which came to light following a complaint on Saturday.
Asked about the home minister's remarks, chief minister Raman Singh today quipped, "Now, what do I say on this."
State Congress chief Nand Kumar Patel called Kanwar's comments as childish and vulgar.
A delegation of Congress leaders, led by Patel, had on Monday met Chhattisgarh governor Shekhar Dutt and demanded dismissal of the state government, saying it has failed to ensure safety of the girls living in residential schools.
In a memorandum to the governor, the party said that everybody was shocked by the incident of rape of inmates of Tribal Girls Pre-matric Hostel in Narharpur area of Kanker.
Two persons, including a teacher, have been arrested for allegedly raping minor inmates of the government-run residential school, according to police.
Accused Mannu Ram Gota, 24, a contractual teacher, was arrested on Sunday night from a forest area of Narharpur, Superintendent of Police Rahul Bhagat said, adding that school watchman Deenaram had also been taken into custody in the case for sexually abusing the girls for several months.
Medical examination has confirmed rape of nine out of the 40 students, who are residing at the hostel located in Narharpur police station limits, he said. Medical tests were still underway.
The Chhattisgarh government has ordered a high-level probe into the incident and Director General of Police Ramniwas has deputed IPS officer Neetu Kamal to investigate it. Stringent action will be taken against those who will be found guilty after the probe, the DGP said.
Meanwhile, services of both the accused along with hostel warden Babita Markam have been terminated by the district collector.
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Originally posted by Nightmare
Quote:
Originally posted by Delhite
Sometimes, mind could have rotten beyond cure. We start thinking that we are the most knowledgeable person. Our path is the only right path – all others are on wrong path. Difference of opinion is not tolerated and others are either friends or enemies. We start hating others. It also influences our views/speech/posts. Owaisi and few posters are good examples of such mind sets.
I would like to copy from my other post as under:
“I can say – Talibanism can penetrate anywhere, anytime – in our religions, in our societies and even in our homes – unknowingly.”
प्रभु सबको सदबुधि दे
Lol! Now trying to occupy high moral grounds. These pseudo guys are even worst than Owaisi. Owaisi, at least is honest in speaking what he believes. These pseudo intelligent guys, when they have no arguments, resort to fakery of hurt feelings.
I do not believe in fakery. My statement may be harsh, rude or insulting but at least those are frank and clearly and unequivocally speak my point of view. By the same count, I do not feel offended by so called insulting or rude statements against me. And believe me, there have been so many. I have made quite a few “enemies” on CD.
I guess you and people of your ilk have no answer to my questions. I cannot keep repeating it. Let me pose those questions one more time.
1.) MSM takes hundreds of interviews and then they publish just a few which portrays Hindu as morons. MSM has one agenda only. To portray Hindu as bigoted , intolerant and antiquated religion.
a) Why do they not interview Narendra Modi, Smriti Irani, Jaitley or Sushma?
b) Why do they not reveal how many people from each party have been interviewed.
c) Why do they not interview Rahul and Priyanka? If these youth leaders refuse to give interview, why do they not let people know that?
d) Why do they talk to Abhishek Manu Singhvi, who was caught on tape sexually exploiting a woman?
2). Why there is no debate on failure of Kangress to prevent rape and oppression of
women after 60 years of rule ?
3) Delhi has been rape capital of the world. MMS/Sonia and Sheila are ruling Delhi for last 10 years. Why are they not being held accountable?
Now my dirty mind has asked these questions. Let me have your Non-Taliban answers.
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