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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
I met him last month. He told me that there were a lot of oppertunities in Australia but they need you to do some basic courses in Australia (may be 2 month or 3 month courses). He did that and he is working in a small city some 1000 kmNW of Darwin. He told me that his salary was $ 110,000 per year and that he had rented a 5 bed villa. His wife is a nurse in a nearby hospital. I was shocked to hear his salary when my salary in Canada was max. 45,000 $ and that was after 9 years of working in Canada.

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we are talking about anecdotal evidence.
there will always be people on either side that will make far above or far below average salaries for the profession.
the other thing is that the demand for some professions will be different across diffrent countries.
maybe draftsmen are more in demand in Oz than in Canada.
similarly i am sure some other professions may be more in demand in Canada than in Oz.

my point is that Canada and Oz are similar in many ways (both are WASP countries, both close to large powerful economies, both have various barriers and constraints for Asian immigrants, and so on).
but there are key differences between Oz and Canada too regardless of job or professions - there is more racism in Oz, good public sector jobs are more open to Asians in Canada, political involvement is more open to Asians in Canada, future potential is more because of US economic recovery, and finally Canada is better connected to Europe, another future potential.

so the question is as follows - for any young educated person in India with some initial job experience, which is a better option to consider.
My personal opinion is that unless there is significant, proven demand for his/her profession in Australia, Canada is a better option.
if on the other hand, it can be established that Australia has high salaries and demand for this person's profession, then go for that.

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Originally posted by tamilkuravan

Febpreeth / FIDO/ SS/ Chandresh and all who are not in IT : looking for your feedback too.

Murali The Krishna

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I am in IT, but had to struggle for 2 years before I got foothold in the stream I wanted to work in and had experience. Having said that, I was fortunate enough to get into Tech Support/Call Centre right after landing. On top of it, I was single and in late 20s. So odds were in my favor to some extent.

I don't have much idea about Australian job market, except for my friend and his sister's family that immigrated to Australia some 12-13 years ago. His brother in law was in Telecom (B.Tech, M.Tech from London) when in Delhi, so he enrolled in MBA at Melbourne University right after they landed. He's now a Director at a Multinational. Friend's sister got a job as an Accountant and completed her CPA. My friend (B.Comm - Delhi University) is now working in a Bank. So, they are all doing great. Even then, I won't say I haven't met people with the same profile that are not highly successful here. My own friend circle here in BC, where everyone's a professional and not in IT (except me), but didn't have to go through the 'labour job' syndrome when they moved to Canada. I am talking about some 14-15 families. One thing is common though - they had to update their skills and knowledge in order to be where they are today. All have an excellent communication skills that matter above all else.

So, I believe Canada and Australia are the same. You need to have a plan - and the better one actually. There's no sure shot formula of success.

But, if I could turn the clock back, I would chose Australia over Canada. One for weather and second due to my close friend being in Australia. Even though weather wise, I am in a good standing by being on the West Coast. Not to tease you GTA'ians, but it's 12 degrees here today .

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Not to tease you GTA'ians, but it's 12 degrees here today .

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Yes, here too, with a pesky looking dash in front of the 12

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Originally posted by happywoman36

Non veg thali is $7.99 whre u get 2 non veg n 2 veg naan/roti rice salad pickle n one sweet dish.

Buffet is $11 (including tax) where 5-6 veg dishes 5-6 non veg salad pakora veg non veg. Pani puri fresh cut fruits and fruit salad n many sweet dishes. ..raita.

THERE IS ONE RESTAURANT WHRE U GET BUFFET $10 & HAS 150 DISHES INCLUDING MANY SEAFOOD. WL POST NME N ADDRESS LATER.

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Haaaiiiin (Amitabh style...)?

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Prr18:
What city of India are you in? That you complain of such corruption and pollution?
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Murali The krishna

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I am in Hyderabad. Corruption and pollution is there every where in India from Kashmir to Kanyakumari. One more big problem is attitude, everybody thinks that rules are meant for others and not for him.

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I am in Hyderabad(Secunderabad actually) right now. Traffic and pollution has gone from bad to worse. People are covering up their faces like the ninjitsu warriors in order to avoid fumes/pollution. There are no sidewalks, the few that we had have been removed for road widening. Secunderabad has become filthy as f#@k. I live in Cantonment, so it’s much leafier and less crowded, although amenities are lacking.

I am trying to acclimatize to the city. Commuting by your own vehicle has become a nightmare. Bus service is not so great and not too lousy either, but buses are of the lowest quality. No improvement there. There is a rail network being developed, hopefully it will mitigate the pollution and chaos and improve daily commute.

Healthcare has improved substantially. Corporate hospitals are good and are reasonably priced, at least within the reach of lower middle class and upwards. But on the downside, they have become crowded like General hospitals. I am diabetic and my tests in Canada did not include tests for B-12 and vitamin D deficiencies which I found out here.

There is more wealth and prosperity seen in middle class since my last visit. RE is somewhat frozen here. Stocks are more upbeat.

IT training looks depressed and there are fewer institutes than before at Ameerpet(the IT training hub of Hyd ), but it is still a basement bargain(some institutes are actually in basements, lol!).

Overall, there is a lot of scope for upgrading your skills/knowledge in your professional area (besides IT). Since quality is uneven, you will have to search a little extra for the right training institute. Again, commuting is a hassle to these places as they may be spread over the city.

Schools for children have become a luxury and are ridiculously expensive. Not too many open spaces and playgrounds. Quality of education is sub-par. Again my knowledge in this area is indirect, thus patchy .

There is also scope/opportunity for personal development in areas/hobbies that would be expensive in Canada eg. yoga, Sanskrit, French(yup!), fitness etc.

Food is good. Lots of organic options are now available, though not as much as in Canada. But definitely cheaper. Although, I can’t say for sure how GMO-safe they are(just as in Canada). Eating out is pretty good too. Very cheap and tasty food with lots of choice.

Overall good vibe, as you know you belong here. But if I chose to live in India, I would like to move to rural/semi-rural area, preferably close to a city for accessing amenities otherwise not available in villages. For that there are lots of “resorts” being developed-- exurban centers with organic, herbal gardens and healthcare facilities. I am visiting one such area tomorrow. Not really a rural area but not rushed lifestyle like in a city.

Will post more as my stay progresses. I am not an RTIwalla, at least not yet. The above should probably hold true and would be applicable to most cities in India, but maybe to a varying degree.

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thanks for the update, Elmer Fudd.

How is Telengana since KCR took over? do you see any signs of development?

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He has done squat. However, at least unlike his counterpart Naidu he has not been fiscally reckless(like writing off loans to farmers irrespective of their economic status). Bifurcation will be a massive bonanza for both the regimes as there will be economic packages offered to both the states from the center and we all know where(or with whom) it will all finally end up with.

I am all for smaller administrative units, but this bifurcation was done appealing to the lowest common denominator ie. alleged ethno-lingustic differences. I can already see subtle and sometimes not so subtle sub-regionalism being played out.

Already there was some ar$ehole politician(chief Minister's daughter no less) who equated Telengana's(Hyderabad state's annexation) to Kashmir. She was promptly arrested for sedition. They should arrest Akbaruddin Owaisi as well and ask both of them to go get a room, er, cell together.

Hyderabad being a large economic cluster will limp into the future, but rest of Telengana will become an economic basket case if things stand the way they are right now. AP will prosper, but will be a sub-standard place to live, even by desi standards.