Conversion from Principal home to investment property


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meitsme   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-07-13 10:48:46

Hi Guys,

I am looking for some advice. I am planning to buy bigger home and would like to rent out my current home. I am looking for best and proper way to make my current residenstial property to investment property.

I would like to pay as much as downpayment for my new home and would like to borrow as much as for my old home (investment property).

For Example:
New Home Price: $400K

Current Home Price : $300K

Mortgage Remaining: $140K. I have total 160K for both houses. I would like to have $160K as downpayment for new home and then take $60K (from HELOC of new home) for down payment of old home (to claim interest on this $60K)

I am confuse about how to achieve it without selling my current home. OR Any alternative way?

Any idea?


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dhaikin   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-07-13 14:29:59

Whatever you do, maintain proper paper trail.
CRA can come after to audit your the details for clarification.



meitsme   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 15-07-13 15:05:53

Thanks but the question is how to proceed to satisfy the CRA requirement?

There is nothing wrong for claiming interest against downpayment of Investment property.

Any one knows step by step better process for this one?


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Full House   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-07-13 18:16:48

MY LOGIC IS VERY SIMPLE. YOU WILL HAVE TO DO THE MATH.
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Originally posted by meitsme

Hi Guys,

I am looking for some advice. I am planning to buy bigger home and would like to rent out my current home. I am looking for best and proper way to make my current residenstial property to investment property.

I would like to pay as much as downpayment for my new home and would like to borrow as much as for my old home (investment property).

For Example:
New Home Price: $400K

Current Home Price : $300K

Mortgage Remaining: $140K. I have total 160K for both houses. I would like to have $160K as downpayment for new home and then take $60K (from HELOC of new home) for down payment of old home (to claim interest on this $60K)

I am confuse about how to achieve it without selling my current home. OR Any alternative way?

Any idea?





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You are living in the OLD House. You have cash equity of $160K. If you move out and rent, then the Bank or the Mortgage company will ask for 40%-50% equity (Value of the house) if you are renting it out. So, leave 20% value of the house in that mortgage and draw out $100K. Now that house is loaded. If and when you start to rent, you can allocate the total interest to that property. That is O.K. CRA will understand that. Any accountant will do the juggling for you. The Mortgage company will have to acceept your equity in that house when you are moving out. For this you will have to find a friendly Mortgage agent.

The 100K will be the down payment for the new house. See if you can just use 80K and then invest the 20K elsewhere and get better returns.

Do you think it is a good time to invest in rental properties or stay in the old house and invest the 100K and pay 25% tax and live worry free for another two or three years? and think of buying after that period. Things might cool a litle bit at that time.

FH.



meitsme   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-07-13 19:32:30

Thanks FH.

What about claiming interest on $60K (20% down payment on old house - rental property)?

How can I claim it and what kind of proof I have to maintain for CRA?

I never invested in stock. Didn't notice much growth in mutual fund. I am interesting in investment in real estate. I believe real estate is good investment (less risky) for long term. Everyone has different view and different risk taking capacity.

I got really good deal for this new home. For current market value, I would never able to buy this new home and I am not expecting the same deal in future (I may be wrong but I didn't want to lose this deal now). So, I decided to jump on it. It is calculative risk. In future, I might sale my new home with profit and move back to small home.

My current home was built just 3 years before and this new home is under construction. I am taking risk for making money and enjoying stay in bigger home too.

Without risk there is no way to make money.

Do you know other places to invest which gives return more than 3.5%?


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Full House   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 16-07-13 22:28:11


Talk to a Mortgage Agent. They will help you with all of the details when they set up both your mortgages. Also discuss about the investment in properties and give him the details of the two houses that you will be owning. He will need a very clear picture of your investment criteria and your risk tolerance. ( Ability to take risks in certain fields.) (Look for Promod Chopra and see how he can help you.)

Leave stocks out of the picture for now. You seem to know about the properties that you have gotten into and stay invested in housing. It will do you good.

Yes I do know about a lot of investments that will give you risk free returns. But that is for a later date. For now you stay invested in the properies.


FH



Amadan123   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 29-10-13 18:24:23

I realize this is a bit of a late reply, but hopefully it helps you and others out.

When converting a house into an investment property, be mindful of the fact that a 'deemed disposition' occurs for tax purposes. This basically means that you are considered to have sold your house at the time you convert it into a rental property, at a price that is the market value at the time.

Then, you also have to consider things like a principal residence exemption, capital gains, second deemed disposition or actual disposition at a later date.

You should have a qualified tax accountant look at your situation and offer advice exactly to how it relates to your situation.

Madan Chartered Accountant team
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