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I really want AAP to sit in the opposition and NOT AT ALL go with the coalition. This would further cement its integrity.

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This is the best result that AAP could have hoped for. Marginal responsibility as the principle opposition party, with lots of bluster and media presence. Also no requirement to show for their ability to run an administration.

A clear win for AAP party would have put pressure on them to show some results, at least for a year or so until the federal elections. They would have failed.

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All 28 of them are first timers to the state politics , while AAP's way of working would have sailed them through but they would have commited mistakes and given chances of lynching by BJP/Cong. But now it is ideal sitaution for these newbees to do intenrship before taking over full fledge responsibilties.

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I think BJP is too scared to be in the Power, merely due to AAP's presence in the opposition. They know they can't pass bills and do whatever they want unchecked without the support of the opposition. That's where the power of AAP lies. They are the power brokers without even being in Power, which is the true nightmare of the 'Bhagwa Clan'.

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AK says he doesn't want to become CM or PM. Then why at all he should contest elections and become MLA?

Obvious that AK and AAP are afraid of criticism. As long as they sit in the arm chair, it is easy for Yogendra Yadav or AK to do business (of criticizing).

Will be better for AK, YY and AAP to stake claim for forming the government and try to bring the JLP Bill. Most likely, it will be defeated, the assembly dissolved and they can go down with guns blazing for facing the next elections.

But do they have the guts?

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I think BJP is too scared to be in the Power, merely due to AAP's presence in the opposition. They know they can't pass bills and do whatever they want unchecked without the support of the opposition. That's where the power of AAP lies. They are the power brokers without even being in Power, which is the true nightmare of the 'Bhagwa Clan'.

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totally agree.

LG Delhi should invite BJP to form a govt ( BJP being the largest party --- even though not majority ), if BJP formally refuses to be able to form the govt then AAP should form a govt and try to bring anti-corruption bill etc. and let BJP, Congress, others vote on the bills.

I dont think BJP, Congress and others will be able to say no to the bills in favour of democracy and against corrution, good services to citizens etc.

best wishes to citizens of INDIA.

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A nice article analysing AAP's populist agenda. Unfortunately First Post is a mouthpiece for the globalist buccaneers. They would like to promote their(and the globalist's) version of corruption ie. crony capitalism.

However that should not negate the validity of the article regarding AAP's socialist tendencies leading to heavy corruption.
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http://www.firstpost.com/politics/dole-nomics-why-aap-is-headed-down-the-same-hole-as-sonias-nac-1278659.html






The Aam Aadmi Party (AAP) wants to change the “system” using honesty and probity as its calling cards. However, while it can impact short-term politics by the power of example and idealism, it cannot really change the system on the basis of good intentions alone. In fact, a large chunk of its policies will end up increasing the potential for corruption, not reduce it.

This is exactly why the Congress government, advised by a dole-oriented National Advisory Council under Sonia Gandhi, is sinking in corruption and price-rise. Does Arvind Kejriwal want to repeat a bad experiment? An honestly executed bad idea is still a bad idea.

For this we have to understand the role doles play in increasing corruption. A dole is, by definition, about giving someone a benefit without seeking a price for it, or at least an adequate price for it.

If it costs Rs 14-15 to procure and store a kilo of rice and you sell it at Rs 3, it is an open invitation to corruption: the people who hawk it will see a potential to sell it in the black market, and deny the poor their cheap grain. Even the people who finally get it at Rs 3 might sell it to use the money for buying something else. Put another way, long-term doles make all of us corrupt – even the poor.

If diesel costs far less than petrol, and kerosene even less than diesel, it is an open invitation to adulteration.

Surjit Bhalla of Oxus Investments notes that large parts of AAP’s manifesto reflect a Luddite tendency, as it opposes privatisation, wants the common man’s necessities (water, power, food) to be subsidised, and tax the rich and middle classes more.

Leaving aside the question of taxing the better off classes aside for a minute, the mere prospect of increasing subsidies if the AAP is voted to power should scare any sensible person. It would mean that AAP has learnt no lesson from UPA-2, where the pursuit of mindless subsidies has not only slowed down growth but increased corruption to mind-boggling levels.

The link between doles and corruption is very direct. Since doles are meant for the poor, they are easy to justify politically. This is why politicians love doles – and Kejriwal surely does not want to be thought of as any other politician. Once you commit yourself to doles, you are essentially committing yourself to a degree of corruption by interfering with market forces in the pricing of goods and services.

It is not an accident that UPA-2 saw the highest levels of corruption and highest levels of dole too.

Consider the big two scams – 2G and Coalgate. They were about helping the poor and keeping prices of power down – exactly what Kejriwal wants.

What was the justification offered by A Raja for selling spectrum in 2008 at 2001 rates? He said he wanted to make mobile services affordable to the common man. This is the argument the UPA bosses ultimately bought, since there was no other way to justify Raja’s decision which got the backing of Manmohan Singh and the UPA government.

In short, the poor are always used to justify a policy that can only result in corruption. By selling spectrum far below market prices, UPA ensured gigantic corruption. How can Kejriwal rail about 2G and then want subsidies too?

Next take Coalgate, which came directly under the Prime Minister after the exit of Shibu Soren as Coal Minister. The ministry wanted to sell coal blocks by auction, but ultimately coal blocks were given away virtually free and non-transparently – again creating scope for enormous corruption.

Why give coal blocks free? The objective was, and is, cheaper power. But did we get cheaper power or costlier corruption? Almost all state governments give electricity at throwaway prices to farmers. The net result is huge theft of cheap power from the grid. Once again, a deed done in the name of the poor farmer ends up benefiting someone else.

So when Kejriwal comes up with his cheap power and free water scheme, he can be sure that every crook will be salivating at the prospect. Kejriwal will be watering the soil of corruption further. A water mafia will develop, and power theft will become endemic.

But, no, AAP sympathisers will say, we will have a powerful Jan Lokpal who will police the administration and ensure that the right people get the cheap power and water. There will be no corruption. Will an all-powerful anti-corruption force reduce corruption or make it worse? What is the guarantee that the Lokpal’s agents will do their work diligently rather than merely accept bribes to look the other way.

Don’t the police, protectors of the law, do precisely this? Ask the Stalin-Brezhnev era Russians and they will tell you that when Big Brother is watching, corruption goes underground and become endemic. Corruption will become more systemic – precisely the thing Kejriwal is said to be fighting against. The only way forward is to make doles restricted only to the ultra needy – and self-dissolving.

Once it becomes universal and widespread, it becomes self-perpetuating and self-defeating. Consider NREGA, the rural jobs scheme, which is universal. In 1999-2004, when there was no NREGA, jobs grew by 60 million, thanks to the NDA government’s infrastructure investments. In the next five years, jobs growth vanished. Among other things, the entry of NREGA pushed rural wages up and drove women out of the workforce.

Is the purpose of a jobs scheme to help people temporarily in distress and without jobs or to destroy the market for real jobs? Atal Behari Vajpayee’s infrastructure spending created more jobs than the UPA’s make-work schemes. And NREGA is one of the most corruption-ridden schemes in the country after the public distribution system. (Read here, here and here) Kejriwal is barking up the wrong tree by mixing up old-style corrupt populism with the idea of integrity.

He should remember that the post-independence Congress, and the early BJP were honest parties run by fairly clean politicians – of the kind Kejriwal himself is promising. But by embracing statism and dole politics, both Congress and BJP descended into corruption, bit by bit. Memo to the most honest kid on the block: doles and corruption go hand in hand.

Even a Jan Lokpal cannot break that invisible link. Sonia Gandhi’s National Advisory Council has pushed the UPA government into a deeper hole with suggestions for more and more doles, and look where the economy has landed.

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I think BJP is too scared to be in the Power, merely due to AAP's presence in the opposition. They know they can't pass bills and do whatever they want unchecked without the support of the opposition. That's where the power of AAP lies. They are the power brokers without even being in Power, which is the true nightmare of the 'Bhagwa Clan'.

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totally agree.

LG Delhi should invite BJP to form a govt ( BJP being the largest party --- even though not majority ), if BJP formally refuses to be able to form the govt then AAP should form a govt and try to bring anti-corruption bill etc. and let BJP, Congress, others vote on the bills.

I dont think BJP, Congress and others will be able to say no to the bills in favour of democracy and against corrution, good services to citizens etc.

best wishes to citizens of INDIA.

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Lol! Another AAP/Khujli troll. Of course, I agree totally with you this time. However, your suggestion is TOTALLY theoretical and smacks of lack of understanding of factual position. No wonder you are AAP troll.

The Governor has to decide whom to invite first for forming government. Usually, he discusses this with the potential parties and usually invite single largest party/group. Already BJP has declined because they do not want to subject them to whims of crazy like Khujli. Still Governor can formally invite BJP though he would be perfectly fine if he skips BJP and invites Khujli. The perverse logic of Khujli is that he has not the majority. However, at the same time he exhorts BJP to form the government because he wants to prove his masculinity by proving the world that he defeated BJP Government! Lol!

You are right in suggesting that he should accept the challenge, form the Government and his first act should be to bring down power prices by 50% and introduce Lokpal bill. Either he would succeed or expose Kangress and BJP. However, his investor Prashant Bhushan is a past master of the game and is expecting much higher pay off. He would not allow his puppet Khujli to form the govt for that will shatter the bubble of falsehood and hypocrisy. Instead they would let their A team Kangress to rule through Presdent rule and take higher "moral" ground. They very well know that most ordinary people lack intelligence and the cheer girls of AAP would even scream louder in their ecstasy. AAP/Khujli has absolutely no guts or will to form the Government. they have already moved to their main target which is to contest Loksabha election in 2014. With 60 seats, they will be the king makers and extortion money would be a number unheard of. AAP/Khujli and their Master Bhushan are the best Poker players and are now aiming for the largest payoff in Indian history. Mulayam/Maya/Lalu would fade against them. Lol!

By the way, very sensible suggestion from Khujli supporter but in vain for he has failed to grasp basic or main reason for AAP's entry in politics.

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I think BJP is too scared to be in the Power, merely due to AAP's presence in the opposition. They know they can't pass bills and do whatever they want unchecked without the support of the opposition. That's where the power of AAP lies. They are the power brokers without even being in Power, which is the true nightmare of the 'Bhagwa Clan'.

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totally agree.

LG Delhi should invite BJP to form a govt ( BJP being the largest party --- even though not majority ), if BJP formally refuses to be able to form the govt then AAP should form a govt and try to bring anti-corruption bill etc. and let BJP, Congress, others vote on the bills.

I dont think BJP, Congress and others will be able to say no to the bills in favour of democracy and against corrution, good services to citizens etc.

best wishes to citizens of INDIA.

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Lol! Another AAP/Khujli troll. Of course, I agree totally with you this time. However, your suggestion is TOTALLY theoretical and smacks of lack of understanding of factual position. No wonder you are AAP troll.

The Governor has to decide whom to invite first for forming government. Usually, he discusses this with the potential parties and usually invite single largest party/group. Already BJP has declined because they do not want to subject them to whims of crazy like Khujli. Still Governor can formally invite BJP though he would be perfectly fine if he skips BJP and invites Khujli. The perverse logic of Khujli is that he has not the majority. However, at the same time he exhorts BJP to form the government because he wants to prove his masculinity by proving the world that he defeated BJP Government! Lol!

You are right in suggesting that he should accept the challenge, form the Government and his first act should be to bring down power prices by 50% and introduce Lokpal bill. Either he would succeed or expose Kangress and BJP. However, his investor Prashant Bhushan is a past master of the game and is expecting much higher pay off. He would not allow his puppet Khujli to form the govt for that will shatter the bubble of falsehood and hypocrisy. Instead they would let their A team Kangress to rule through Presdent rule and take higher "moral" ground. They very well know that most ordinary people lack intelligence and the cheer girls of AAP would even scream louder in their ecstasy. AAP/Khujli has absolutely no guts or will to form the Government. they have already moved to their main target which is to contest Loksabha election in 2014. With 60 seats, they will be the king makers and extortion money would be a number unheard of. AAP/Khujli and their Master Bhushan are the best Poker players and are now aiming for the largest payoff in Indian history. Mulayam/Maya/Lalu would fade against them. Lol!

By the way, very sensible suggestion from Khujli supporter but in vain for he has failed to grasp basic or main reason for AAP's entry in politics.

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on one hand you agree completely with me and at the same time you say that it is theoretical and I do not understand the ground realities. somebody is confused.

also we shall see what happens in delhi in coming days/weeks.

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