Time to change title : Narendra Modi will be the next PM of India....India won..

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Poll:Time to change title : Narendra Modi will be the next PM of India....India won..
Choice Stats
Narendra Modi 100% (13)
Rahul Gandhi 0% (0)

metouk   
Member since: Feb 05
Posts: 220
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 27-03-14 23:55:52

Asking Money in the form is not corruption
Asking media person anchor to edit and show only part which help image of AK49 and AAP don't any other part
Giving 372 crores to Anil Ambani Power Discom when they were in power
Taking money for Ford Foundation to dis-stablize india is not corruption
Not paying income tax for 9 yrs is not corruption
Get his transfer stopped by Sonia Gandhi not corruption
Not puting up Candidate against Sonia Gandhi is not corruption
Taking help of biased and paid media is not corruption
Over staying the CM Bungalow is not corrutpion
Wah Re Blind AAP followers



JRF   
Member since: Jul 04
Posts: 1853
Location: GTA, Ontario

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-03-14 07:08:20

Quote:
Originally posted by BlueLobster

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Originally posted by JRF



I again and again ask the same question,
Why NM runs away from any debate, interview ?





What does that even mean? He's probably not debating Kejriwal because he does not consider him worthy (Kejriwal has already proved his nautanki ability with the stunt in Delhi).



That way Modi considers everyone Nautanki, hope you watched his latest CNN-IBN interview.
How many different angles one could ask question on a particular issue ? why not prepare a straight solid answers than responding with rudeness.

Well, many like Modi because he represents their state, language, culture and even principles. Its natural.

I am very confident that AK would fail miserably (if he forms a govt with 1 in billion probability), the Govt staff will bring him to roads if he tries to eliminate corruption as it is very deeply rooted in the veins (thanks to the brits who purposely spoiled the society as they wished, they knew they will leave one day, they did their best to leave a mess aligning with their other European counterparts). It is not like some one seeks bribe for their better lifestyle, it has been seeded in the brain, very very few will stick out of it. Lying, backdoor pursuit for any work is quite a part of thinking. Modi is well aware of this and the Govt staff knew well that he would let them live where as AK likely would not.

More over, if the progress in Gujarat is what you think the rest of the India should follow, you should also know that many other states might not like the ideology of Gujarati principles, it might not match their lifestyle. Again, I am not judging anything but just highlighting the undeniable incompatibility.


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Delhite   
Member since: Nov 04
Posts: 938
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-03-14 08:54:32

Quote:
Originally posted by metouk
Asking Money in the form is not corruption


AK is asking white money from common people who support him for his party funding – not black money as BJP and Congis are taking from crony capitalists. AK’s 100% money is accounted for and clean. I feel pity on your thinking that taking white money for party work is a corruption and taking black money from foreign agencies is okay. See the latest HC order for BJP and Congis foreign funding –
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/bjp-congress-guilty-of-accepting-foreign-donations-from-vedanta-delhi-hc/article1-1201404.aspx " target="_blank"> http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/bjp-congress-guilty-of-accepting-foreign-donations-from-vedanta-delhi-hc/article1-1201404.aspx
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Giving 372 crores to Anil Ambani Power Discom when they were in power


This is an excellent example of rumor spreading tactics of Sanghis for which they are famous for. This money was given to Discom to provide relief in electricity bills, to consumers, which are inflated by these Discom and who’s investigation is pending.
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Taking money for Ford Foundation to dis-stablize india is not corruption


Now ready to die with shame – the NaMoona has taken funds from Ford Foundation for his government. Please apply the same logic to NaMoona. AK has taken the fund for NGO – a long time ago when he was not in politics. NaMoona has taken the funds as a CM of state government. Do you still want to talk about it or want to hide somewhere?
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/nagpur/Guj-govt-taking-Ford-Foundation-funds-is-ok/articleshow/32573211.cms " target="_blank"> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/nagpur/Guj-govt-taking-Ford-Foundation-funds-is-ok/articleshow/32573211.cms
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Not paying income tax for 9 yrs is not corruption


Again wrong information for which you guys are proficient. His income tax was deducted at source.
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Get his transfer stopped by Sonia Gandhi not corruption


Another example of classic rumor. Now listen to me to understand who has hands in glove with whom. Sonia Gandhi blackmailed Atal Bihar Bajpayee – to get out Rahul Gandhi from mess. It is not from horse mouth – it is from Dr Subramanian Swamy who is a senior leader of BJP. It proves that BJP and Congies are the two sides of same coin. Read Dr Subramanian Swamy’s blog –
http://subramanianswamy.blogspot.com/2013/04/dr-subramanian-swamy-explains-how-sonia.html " target="_blank"> http://subramanianswamy.blogspot.com/2013/04/dr-subramanian-swamy-explains-how-sonia.html
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Not puting up Candidate against Sonia Gandhi is not corruption


This is the first time a political party (AAP) is putting strong candidates against others. Why BJP and Congies had fielded weak candidates in the past? It is AAP who started fielding strong candidates. Now BJP has backed out from its stance of fielding strong candidates - http://aajtak.intoday.in/story/uttar-pradesh-uma-contesting-from-jhansi-smriti-is-not-contesting-from-amethi-bjp-1-759226.html " target="_blank"> http://aajtak.intoday.in/story/uttar-pradesh-uma-contesting-from-jhansi-smriti-is-not-contesting-from-amethi-bjp-1-759226.html
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Taking help of biased and paid media is not corruption


Funding and accounts of AAP is transparent and clean. They don’t pay to any paid media. This is the reason AAP has been blocked out by main stream media for a long time on the directions of crony capitalists, who give huge advertisements to the media houses.
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Over staying the CM Bungalow is not corrutpion


AK is paying the market rent for his over stay. Do you want me to post here the list of BJP and Congi leaders who are illegally staying in government bungalows for years?
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Wah Re Blind AAP followers


Now think again – who is blind and who is brain washed.


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BlueLobster   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 3409
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-03-14 08:56:49

Quote:
Originally posted by JRF

Well, many like Modi because he represents their state, language, culture and even principles. Its natural.



Actually, this could not be further from the truth. The opposite is true. Many don't like him because he does NOT represent their state etc. And this may be natural, but not good for India overall.

If your above statement were true, then you would've seen Gujaratis promote a lot of other candidates with the same fervor. Secondly, you should know gujarati support alone did not make him the PM nominee. So your point about this being some gujarati thing is totally invalid.

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I am very confident that AK would fail miserably (if he forms a govt with 1 in billion probability), the Govt staff will bring him to roads if he tries to eliminate corruption as it is very deeply rooted in the veins (thanks to the brits who purposely spoiled the society as they wished, they knew they will leave one day, they did their best to leave a mess aligning with their other European counterparts). It is not like some one seeks bribe for their better lifestyle, it has been seeded in the brain, very very few will stick out of it. Lying, backdoor pursuit for any work is quite a part of thinking. Modi is well aware of this and the Govt staff knew well that he would let them live where as AK likely would not.



Therein lies the problem of a complete lack of accountability and something where I find the support for Kejriwal so frightening. So if he succeeds in something, he is great. If he fails, it is because other people are bad. A leadership position isn't about finding faults, it it about taking accountability. And Kejriwal showed a fine example of that with his "leadership" of Delhi. Agitating without any strategy or outcome is NOT leadership, India will find that out very quickly if this guy is elected. A country of over a billion people isn't a platform to run "let's just try this out and see experiments".

If Kejriwal had a solid track record of administration at the scale of a state or a country (which amounts to WAY more than removing corruption btw), I would be behind him. He has zero and he royally blew the one chance he had in Delhi. Do you really want a drama queen like this running a country like India?

You know in office when everbody's going out for lunch? And someone asks "where does everyone want to go?" And nobody says anything. And then so that someone decides "Let's go to place XYZ". Suddenly some guy jumps out and says "I don't want to go there because blah blah blah". But he does not say where he wants to go, so nothing moves forward. Kejriwal is that guy who has no clue about direction or getting stuff done. Luckily those kinds of guys don't get leadership positions - but we'll see in India.

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More over, if the progress in Gujarat is what you think the rest of the India should follow, you should also know that many other states might not like the ideology of Gujarati principles, it might not match their lifestyle. Again, I am not judging anything but just highlighting the undeniable incompatibility.



I don't understand this point. You're playing this along state lines again and I see a bit of bias. I don't see it this way at all - this is now about India. I'm under no illusion that Modi is perfect or BJP Is perfect. But it'll be a travesty if someone like Kejriwal will be able to dirupt the elections enough to create a chaotic situation. If India allows him to do that, then India deserves the ensuing chaos (similar to the one in Delhi).

Finally, this is why there are elections. The people of India will speak on what they want and I think its part and parcel of the democratic process that we have different opinions on what the output of this should be.


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BlueLobster   
Member since: Oct 02
Posts: 3409
Location: Mississauga

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-03-14 08:59:10

Quote:
Originally posted by JRF


That way Modi considers everyone Nautanki, hope you watched his latest CNN-IBN interview.
How many different angles one could ask question on a particular issue ? why not prepare a straight solid answers than responding with rudeness.





I have not seen this interview but seen many others where he responded to some very tough questions with a lot of transparency. Let me know if you want links. So saying something like "Why does he run from interviews" is ridiculous.


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Delhite   
Member since: Nov 04
Posts: 938
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-03-14 09:41:14

The people of Delhi still remember that one month of AK’s governance when Delhi Government offices worked without any corruption and delay - Period.


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febpreet   
Member since: Jan 07
Posts: 3252
Location:

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 28-03-14 12:00:32

Quote:
Originally posted by BlueLobster

Quote:
Originally posted by JRF

Well, many like Modi because he represents their state, language, culture and even principles. Its natural.



Actually, this could not be further from the truth. The opposite is true. Many don't like him because he does NOT represent their state etc. And this may be natural, but not good for India overall.

If your above statement were true, then you would've seen Gujaratis promote a lot of other candidates with the same fervor. Secondly, you should know gujarati support alone did not make him the PM nominee. So your point about this being some gujarati thing is totally invalid.

Quote:

I am very confident that AK would fail miserably (if he forms a govt with 1 in billion probability), the Govt staff will bring him to roads if he tries to eliminate corruption as it is very deeply rooted in the veins (thanks to the brits who purposely spoiled the society as they wished, they knew they will leave one day, they did their best to leave a mess aligning with their other European counterparts). It is not like some one seeks bribe for their better lifestyle, it has been seeded in the brain, very very few will stick out of it. Lying, backdoor pursuit for any work is quite a part of thinking. Modi is well aware of this and the Govt staff knew well that he would let them live where as AK likely would not.



Therein lies the problem of a complete lack of accountability and something where I find the support for Kejriwal so frightening. So if he succeeds in something, he is great. If he fails, it is because other people are bad. A leadership position isn't about finding faults, it it about taking accountability. And Kejriwal showed a fine example of that with his "leadership" of Delhi. Agitating without any strategy or outcome is NOT leadership, India will find that out very quickly if this guy is elected. A country of over a billion people isn't a platform to run "let's just try this out and see experiments".

If Kejriwal had a solid track record of administration at the scale of a state or a country (which amounts to WAY more than removing corruption btw), I would be behind him. He has zero and he royally blew the one chance he had in Delhi. Do you really want a drama queen like this running a country like India?

You know in office when everbody's going out for lunch? And someone asks "where does everyone want to go?" And nobody says anything. And then so that someone decides "Let's go to place XYZ". Suddenly some guy jumps out and says "I don't want to go there because blah blah blah". But he does not say where he wants to go, so nothing moves forward. Kejriwal is that guy who has no clue about direction or getting stuff done. Luckily those kinds of guys don't get leadership positions - but we'll see in India.

Quote:

More over, if the progress in Gujarat is what you think the rest of the India should follow, you should also know that many other states might not like the ideology of Gujarati principles, it might not match their lifestyle. Again, I am not judging anything but just highlighting the undeniable incompatibility.



I don't understand this point. You're playing this along state lines again and I see a bit of bias. I don't see it this way at all - this is now about India. I'm under no illusion that Modi is perfect or BJP Is perfect. But it'll be a travesty if someone like Kejriwal will be able to dirupt the elections enough to create a chaotic situation. If India allows him to do that, then India deserves the ensuing chaos (similar to the one in Delhi).

Finally, this is why there are elections. The people of India will speak on what they want and I think its part and parcel of the democratic process that we have different opinions on what the output of this should be.



Great! You did good here.

Now, can you please add Kejriwal's name to the voting on top of this forum page?



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