Many parents are striking against the new physical education curriculum


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happywoman36   
Member since: Oct 13
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Location: Toronto

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-05-15 11:27:55

Sending your child to school today (this week) does not mean that you support the new Health & Phys Ed Curriculum (or that you do not have valid concerns). Sending your child to school means that you value your child's fundamental right to an education and will not use your child as a political tool.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/karyn-pickles/ontario-sex-education-curriculum-update_b_6746012.html

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H4UYHYwawCPw_IDAWWY34KEy2hBEi9kx0C1_UXadA7g/edit?pli=1#gid=1482154131

https://professionallythinking.wordpress.com/2015/03/03/much-ado-about-something-thoughts-on-the-release-of-ontarios-2015-health-and-physical-education-curriculum-one-week-in/

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/05/04/fact-checking-10-claims-made-by-parents-against-the-ontario-sex-ed-curriculum.html


Should we use our children as a political tool and not send them to school to protest against the new sex education curriculum??

I am sending my children to school. how about you all??

thnks in advance for all the reply.


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Rajagopal   
Member since: May 11
Posts: 348
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-05-15 15:01:39

From my discussions with knowledgeable people in school boards, i gathered the below input:

1) The existing sex-ed curriculum was largely written in 1998 when tools like facebook, youtube, whatsapp, tinder etc were virtually non-existent. Even internet porn was in nascent stages.

2) The new curriculum is designed to counter the side-effects of the above new technologies and prepare our children to absorb the information from the *INFORMED* sources.

3) The only other choice is for them to google on the internet. Of course, the first site that pops up will be a porn site. E.g. Try typing *nal sex and see what comes up. :-)

I don't know about you guys, but i am not too keen on sitting with my children to go over the intricacies of sexual terms and terminologies. I will leave that job to the trained professionals.



hchheda   
Member since: Aug 05
Posts: 2245
Location: Woodbridge

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-05-15 16:09:26

I request all parents whether you have a school age kid at home or not to review some of the objections highlighted by larger coalitions.

http://www.campaignlifecoalition.com/index.php?p=Sex_Ed_Curriculum

There is a concerted effort by the supporters to brandish the opposing parents as Homophobic, backward and opposing sex education in schools. This is not 100% true. The opposition is only for the objectionable content, not towards everything contained in the curriculum.

Also, it is not necessary that everything old is outdated. We today are products of the same old education and are doing well, why would the kids of this generation, who are much smarter and have access to more resources not perform well? It is important to update and include new information as times change, but objections listed above are not about those updates. They are about overstepping the boundaries and the parents have all the rights to question and stop the govt in doing so.

Compounding the fact is that the govt is trying to keep the curriculum secret, does not wish to share/debate and the premier intentionally calling many protesters homophobic. Not to forget that this curriculum was highly influenced by an alleged pedophile - you can imagine his motivation when developing these topics for kids.

My personal objection is that the school system wants to promote sexual activity as a means for 'pleasure' which is absolutely alarming. They should be promoting the emotional aspect of love and not encouraging teenagers to practice anal sex and oral sex as a 'safe act' to perform. Imagine the peer pressure on kids to engage in these activities because it is advocated in school and implied that everyone is partaking in it. Those who do not partake will be considered left out and isolated.

As parents we don't have to discuss the graphic intricacies of sexual activities, but we do need to sit with them at appropriate age to talk about safety, hygiene and respect. At the same time we need to understand their expectations of privacy to explore the graphic aspects of this activity on their own. With so many resources at their disposal, the curious mind will find his/her own information - the school need not advocate or get involved.

The graphic curriculum also opens the doors for uninhibited discussions of pleasurable sexual activities between teachers and students, removing the respectful boundaries between the 2 also opening up avenues for sexual exploitation of students at the hands of teachers under the guise of education. Are parents too shy to take interest in talking about it with their kids, willing to take this risk regarding the safety of their kids? Will masturbation breaks become acceptable during instruction period since the teacher just taught them that it is a natural urge and OK to indulge?

I have read some of the myths/faq being circulated by the media who support this curriculum and am appalled at the mis-information they are spreading to justify their stand by posing leading questions to respondents.

Hope there is a respectful discussion without name calling and personal insults.

Hiren



meghal   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 05-05-15 20:59:19

Quote:
Originally posted by hchheda

I request all parents whether you have a school age kid at home or not to review some of the objections highlighted by larger coalitions.

http://www.campaignlifecoalition.com/index.php?p=Sex_Ed_Curriculum

Hiren



CDs. Before you read the above quoted link and make decision, be careful whom you are supporring. Campaign for life is a rabid right-wing Christian organization, who is against abortion, stem cell research, homosexuality, euthanasia and other such issues. Recall the case of recent Indiana girl of Indian origin, who was jailed for botched abortion

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/03/pregnant-woman-feticide-charge/26838389/

Also recall the case of Savita H. in Ireland, who was refused pregnancy termination on religious grounds, and she died in the hospital

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ireland/10119109/Irish-abortion-law-key-factor-in-death-of-Savita-Halappanavar-official-report-finds.html

Are you really against issues like assisted suicide and stem cell research?

Also, Toronto Star has give an good article clearing lots of misunderstanding on this issue

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/05/04/fact-checking-10-claims-made-by-parents-against-the-ontario-sex-ed-curriculum.html

And I believe you have the option of taking your kid out of the class if you don't want him/her to attend the class.

And remember, at the end, you are answerable to your kid, when he/she grows up and asks why he/she was not allowed to attend the sex-ed class.

You cannot ghettoize yourself from the mainstream Canadian society and then cry foul, when somebody discriminates against you.

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My personal objection is that the school system wants to promote sexual activity as a means for 'pleasure' which is absolutely alarming.




Why is sex not a pleasurable activity? Why it should be tied to reproduction? And do you have data to prove that that refraining kids from sex education will lead to abstinence?

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With so many resources at their disposal, the curious mind will find his/her own information - the school need not advocate or get involved.




What do you prefer? Kids surfing porn website when parents are not looking around, or at least a responsible teacher teaching what is appropriate and what is not?


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The graphic curriculum also opens the doors for uninhibited discussions of pleasurable sexual activities between teachers and students, removing the respectful boundaries between the 2 also opening up avenues for sexual exploitation of students at the hands of teachers under the guise of education.



This curriculum brings Ontario at par with Quebec and other provinces and Scandinavian countries. Do you have any data to prove that such behaviour occurs in these countries/provinces?




Rajagopal   
Member since: May 11
Posts: 348
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-05-15 06:36:50

Quote:
Originally posted by meghal


Also, Toronto Star has give an good article clearing lots of misunderstanding on this issue

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/05/04/fact-checking-10-claims-made-by-parents-against-the-ontario-sex-ed-curriculum.html

And I believe you have the option of taking your kid out of the class if you don't want him/her to attend the class.

And remember, at the end, you are answerable to your kid, when he/she grows up and asks why he/she was not allowed to attend the sex-ed class.

You cannot ghettoize yourself from the mainstream Canadian society and then cry foul, when somebody discriminates against you.




+ 1.

Thank you for the Toronto star link. Hopefully, that will clear the misconceptions of what the new curriculum really is and what it is not.




Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-05-15 11:22:38

My take on this is that the curriculum is not completely right or completely wrong. There are some parts of which are right like making kids aware of the things in a correct controlled manner but at what age and till what extent.

If you are teaching all this in school and knowing that kids would be in an experimental mode , given their tender age and the freedom the environment provides , things may go from bad to worse .

This is something akin to teaching about marijuana or guns ... for sure it will spurt a usage if awareness is provided ... unless and until it is done @ a responsible age...

Sex is pleasurable .. that's right but can also be a problem if not done or controlled responsibly and a major distraction also plus have emotional after effects as well ....

And this same gender thing .... would it not raise confusion in their minds when they are trying to identify themselves majorly as belonging to either sex .... Isn't the same gender relationship an exception and not a norm .

I am of the view that they should be made aware of these things but in a restricted controlled environment and at an appropriate age - This should be done with having a wider audience and consensus with parents.


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Fido   
Member since: Aug 06
Posts: 5286
Location: Canada

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 06-05-15 11:27:49

Quote:

What do you prefer? Kids surfing porn website when parents are not looking around, or at least a responsible teacher teaching what is appropriate and what is not?



Is there a guarantee with the s/x ed being taught , kids would not be browsing porn sites ??? .


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