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Originally posted by tungrus


One is free to believe what he/she wants to ...but don't expect others to have the same belief....at least give them the freedom of choice....

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they don't have the guts to stand up and protest...and most of them are silent supporters of the "greater cause"... i.e. global islamization!!

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Originally posted by Fido

I am wondering why our dear CDs who keep on coming up with goodness of Islam are silent about the Paris happenings ..

I wonder what Metouk and Tungrus have to say here .. whether they support or denounce these attacks ?? ... Which will also indicate whether they favor ISIS action & ideology or not ??

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After much introspection (yes, I did one), I strongly believe we (including me) should stop pointing fingers. Let people don't say a thing if they don't want to, but the ones that are vocal should make some viable strategies to root out the evil by way of making policies. I mean, Politicians. I don't know how, and not sure using what means.

We must understand that the ones that are pointing fingers are not quite free from blemishes themselves.

Organized religion is anyway a mess. If it were not this religion, then would've been something else.

To me the following should be the way forward :

1. Education - People should be taught to 'think' and 'reason' instead of blindly following a leader - whether political or religious.

2. Acts of mass terror SHOULD NOT make headlines - instead dealt as local crimes. Special help may be provided to local police by Federal and Security agencies, but the less publicity these rouges get, the more it hurts their cause. Even on social media like WhatsApp and FB, we should not be party to circulating stories of terror.

The only reason these groups execute these acts is to draw attention and increase their profile internationally. If they are denied this privilege, they will eventually fade away. No one wants to fight a war where their achievements will not be highlighted, talked about.

3. Voting in democracy should be made a privilege, not a right. A voter (and a candidate) needs to demonstrate their ability to understand issues of local, state, federal and international importance before being given the right to vote/run for office. This will force politicians to work towards a goal instead of using money/muscle power to win elections.

Hiren

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Let me provide you with a scenario where in you see a group of people living a quiet life and a very peaceful one at that and see that the others in different parts of the world having a better standard of living and living prosperously and also have more funds allocated towards all of the materials to fight a war, the ones who are not so materialistic and not so educated and extremely religious, fail to see the democratic principles upon which we all are based here and live here, some times biting a bullet, hoping to see a better day and we hope that we will have our turn to move up and rule the roost at a later date, do our biding and follow the principle of "live and let live".

My feeling is it is not so everywhere. A few do not have the patience. Also when you provide them with all of the toys of the war and a principle to follow that stands very much opposed to what it is that we call democracy here, they take up a cause, we call it the religious one and end up sadly as a martyr to such a cause, and it has become a way of living there in that neck of the woods.

Now we also know that when such a cause rises its ugly head HERE we see such a situation arising everywhere and even though they might be stray and sporadic, we do not know when and where they will strike again. But they do know where the weak spots are and also where they can get some support too. So, it is for us to get smart and group ourselves as one and fight it and plug in all of the holes and avoid the same in the future. Did we fail here... YES... (I will stop here and don't want to write an essay to point out our weakness.)

FH.

Here is a link to one such material that I read and I am posting a link to it hoping that you will also read and enjoy the materials. I am not a follower of that group.

http://www.ishafoundation.org/blog/sadhguru/masters-words/no-more-of-gods-soldiers/

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