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AshwaniG   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-16 13:41:41

I guess we are in a very safe position to JUDGE that only FEW OF US can be successful in hauling multi crores from here. Rest everyone who comes here in future will be a big failure .
So don't dare to dream and certainly not follow positive people like Full House who is the only person seen going over and beyond his means to help people in need.

Immigration and related advise is never a one size fits all.

Good luck to future aspirant. I am glad that I didn't followed many posters here in my decision taking days.

I am one of the happy immigrant who had struggled my fair bit in initial years but will take the same decision even today if I had to.


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northyork_desi   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-16 13:45:26

Just to clarify, EE in context of IELTS and PR might mean Express entry , not Electrical Engineering. If thats the case, look at your responses and see if those makes sense. Also its doesnt make sense to attack FH, he was merely answering a query from OP, and he was the only one responding to the OP's questions about IELTS.

So much enthusiasm in the board to discourage new immigrants, wonder if there is any ulterior motive behind it or if its due to genuine interest in the well being of a fellow desi.




hchheda   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-16 13:52:17

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Originally posted by northyork_desi

Just to clarify, EE in context of IELTS and PR might mean Express entry , not Electrical Engineering. If thats the case, look at your responses and see if those makes sense. Also its doesnt make sense to attack FH, he was merely answering a query from OP, and he was the only one responding to the OP's questions about IELTS.




Good observation NYD.
:cheers:

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So much enthusiasm in the board to discourage new immigrants,




Maybe Trump supporters
;)

Hiren



hchheda   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-16 13:53:50

Quote:
Originally posted by AshwaniG

follow positive people like Full House who is the only person seen going over and beyond his means to help people in need.

Immigration and related advise is never a one size fits all.

Good luck to future aspirant. I am glad that I didn't followed many posters here in my decision taking days.

I am one of the happy immigrant who had struggled my fair bit in initial years but will take the same decision even today if I had to.



So true.. well said

:cheers:

Hiren



Full House   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 20-10-16 16:17:23

I sincerely want to help just one Immigrant into Canada, without all of us having to fight to keep him out. Only a few enter into Canada with silver spoons in their mouth and I have yet to see the mouth and the spoon in it. It sure is a great country and a lot of us want to come to it or help some one get an entry and make a GO of it. I will surely step in and go one better and see if I can get him/her settled into a decent place, a decent job or into nice educational institution and move on in life as smoothly as possible. For me that gives me a small satisfaction. Did I give him my door number or a blower to get in touch with, NO. Do I supplement his income? NO. Does he pay me for all of this? NO. All of this is done VOLUNTARILY and in GOOD FAITH and I wish all the best that goes with it and hope that they prosper well in life.

Rules were there, but no one knew them well or good to tell others. But we now have them all at our finger tips to read and understand and interpret and explain to others. That is this age of the INTERNET. So, more power to it. I do a little research to find a nice way to explain to a new comer. I also show him/her where it is from that I got it. So, they can also read it.

JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE OP's POSTING.:

ONTARIO.: Ontario only has a PNP PROGRAM.

IELTS ..: Is an Exam for A Language Course.

EE. : Is surely the sign of an Express Entry. IT is also used in Electrical Engineering.

Bachelor Degree. : Bachelor of ARTS, Commerce, et all..

"" Bangladesh, India and Pakistan mostly follow the colonial era British system for classification of degrees. Arts referring to the performing arts and literature the corresponding degree are Bachelor of Arts (BA) and its master is called Master of Arts (MA). Management degrees are also classified under 'Arts' but is nowadays considered a major new stream, Bachelor of Business Administration (BBA) and Master Of Business Administration (MBA). Science referring to the basic sciences and natural science (Biology, Physics, Chemistry etc.) the corresponding degree are Bachelor of Science (B.Sc.) and its master is called Master of Science (M.Sc.). Another new set of Information Technology degree conferred specially in the field of computer science, Bachelor of Science in Information Technology (B.Sc.IT.) and Master of Science in Information Technology (M.Sc.IT.). The engineering degrees in India follow two common patterns. Bachelor of Engineering (B.E.) and Bachelor of Technology (B.Tech) both representing a bachelor's degree in engineering and Pakistan Engineering Degrees are Bachelor of Engineering (B.E.) and B.Sc. Engineering both are same in curriculum, duration and pattern. where as B. Tech. Degree holders in Pakistan are not considered as Engineers as per Pakistan Engineering Council criteria for engineers they are considered as technologist in Pakistan. Medical Degree ? Bachelor of Medicine & Bachelor of Surgery (MBBS), Bachelor of Dental Surgery (BDS),(BCA)-Bachelor of Computer Application and (MCA)-Master of Computer Application. ""

All of this is academic and a 'Bachelors' could easily might be any one of these. Mmm I am waiting for the OP to chime in.

Good Luck O.P. ( Where ever you are in the cloud.)

FH.

Now to the nitty gritty.... :
Distribution of Points within the CRS
The CRS awards points for a candidate?s age, level of education, language ability in English and/or French, work experience (both in Canada and abroad), whether he or she has a job offer in Canada, and whether a Canadian province has issued him or her a nomination certificate through one of the enhanced Provincial Nominee Program (PNP) categories. Additional points may be awarded to candidates who obtain a province-recognized certificate of qualification in a trade.

Certain factors, as well as combinations of factors, are rewarded more than others. Moreover, candidates with an accompanying spouse, common-law or conjugal partner (hereafter ?spouse?) see a slight difference in how the various factors are weighted, as certain spousal factors are also taken into account.

There are a total of 1,200 points available, of which 600 may be awarded for a job offer or provincial nomination. Of the remaining half, up to 500 are available for human capital factors in their own right, and 100 for skills transferability combinations of those human capital factors. Of the 40 Express Entry draws that have taken place so far, 35 draws have seen ITAs issued to candidates who had neither a job offer nor a provincial nomination.

Increasing CRS Score
The nuances of the system dictate that there are numerous ways in which a candidate in the pool can increase his or her ranking. These nuances are important, as even a seemingly slight change in one factor?for example, improving a language ability from intermediate level to initial advanced?can have hugely positive effects on one?s ranking. Although many potential improvements may seem obvious, others are not so obvious.

Education
Let?s first look at education, a highly valued factor under the CRS. There is much to consider on this front, but we?ll begin with candidates who enter the pool under the CEC program. Although FSWC candidates who studied outside Canada must prove their education credential(s) by way of an Educational Credential Assessment (ECA), CEC candidates may enter the pool without an ECA or Canadian credential. Some CEC candidates might enter the pool, sit back, and wait for an ITA. They could be waiting a long time, however, and often in vain, but they can increase their score by having their level(s) of education assessed. Doing so can bring up to 200 points?150 for human capital, with a bonus 50 in combination with Canadian work experience and/or language ability. Having a bachelor?s degree assessed can bring up to 170 points. So, educated CEC candidates in the pool with no ECA, I have a simple question: what are you waiting for? Get your ECA as soon as possible.

There are other potential ways in which candidates from all three programs may claim additional points through education. For candidates with more than one post-secondary credential, getting each credential assessed is recommended. Canadian equivalencies may vary from one credential to another, the CRS awards points for multiple credentials, and any credential may help a candidate become eligible under a PNP. If an Express Entry PNP category opens and you need to react quickly, it is crucial to have a fully updated education section in your profile. Proving all your education, and not just what might be deemed the highest level, can be important in this regard.

Furthermore, completing an additional level of education can also be beneficial. Some candidates are only a few courses or months away from completing a degree, diploma or certificate that, when assessed, would help to improve their ranking under the CRS. Other proactive candidates may consider enrolling in a higher level of education, knowing that completing the program would increase their chances of realizing their Canadian immigration goals.

Language
Language is another crucial factor, as it is worth up to 260 points. Fluent English and/or French speakers may have maximized their points potential on entry to the pool. Candidates with room for improvement in language test results, however, should consider preparing for and re-taking a test. Any improvement across any of the four abilities (speaking, writing, reading, and listening) may bring a corresponding improvement in CRS ranking, but the big payoff occurs when a candidate reaches initial advanced level (Canadian Language Benchmark 9) across the board. When this happens, he or she may trigger a higher threshold in the combination factors and receive up to 100 points, in addition to the points received for the language factor in its own right.

A final note on language?bilingual candidates should take language tests in both English and French. By not doing so, they are leaving up to 24 points on the table, unclaimed.

FROM. : http://www.wesstudentadvisor.org/2016/08/immigration-to-canada-tips.html

Have I got to read all of this? Why not?!

fh.
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Originally posted by cloud9

I would like to know that how much score is needed for Ontario in IELTS for EE, if a person is 40 years of age with Bachelor degree and 18+ years experience. Does IELTS higher score such as 8 band or so effect the entry chances??





Canada_Ka_Bhikari   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-10-16 05:48:10

Only lower middle class and poor class people, who are uneducated or semi-literate should come to Canada.

If you are rich class, upper middle class or even middle middle class, don't bother coming here. If you are a professional like Engineer, Doctor, Architect, CA, MBA , which most Indians are, just forget it, don't bother.

Some educated immigrants come here and do some so so dead end low level jobs , which are not even in their field, and manage to eat decent food from a grocery store, get some decent rental apartment (not ownership ) and drive a decent used car, suddenly start thinking that they are a successful immigrant and have made it.

But the fact of the matter is they are just second class citizens on the fringes of the society in the grand scheme of things in Canada. Just because it is PHOREN and Canada, they falsely believe they are successful.But if the exact same thing if they were doing in India, they would be cursing India.

Deep inside they know what the real truth is and the superficial stuff is not going to mask it.

In India a doctor or an architect will work in his profession. The same person will work as a low level X- Ray technician or as a autocad draftsman respectively. And then call himself a successful imigrant..lol..just because he gets to live pay check to pay check in a so called first world country called Canada, when he is really living in a third class country.


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Canada_Ka_Bhikari   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 21-10-16 06:09:31

Educated People after coming here, lower their bar, lower their standards , lower their class , lower their expectations and accept the sad reality called Canada and get resigned to their fate. The option to go back has also closed now, so they are neither here nor there.

They know this is as good as it is going to get, even though they had a much much better social life, professional life, family life, personal life ,position and standard back home.

Once you lower your standards and start lying to yourself, and don't want to accept the mistake of immigrating to Canada, its easy to call yourself a successful immigrant.


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