Has anyone ever seen hate speech coming out of Hindu prayers?
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Originally posted by RaOne
Hey Luckysaab,
Not a big fan of writing long paras, so I will write in points.
1. Alwar assault by gorakshaks – The goraskshaks broke the law; it is shameful; a blot on the secular democracy of India. The criminals must be tried and punished. Period.
Can we call him a Hindu terrorist?
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2. Never been to a temple? : You should go once. All are welcome there, whether you believe or not believe! Hinduism embraced atheists 2000+ years ago. Also no one had to go to the place of worship that were spewing hate speech. Wrong things come out eventually.
Unlike many in here I believe all religions are good and are primary civilizing force and for the most part instill absolute ethical standards. If you talk about violence historically people have used all ideologies to commit violence. Consider Communist Russia and China in recent times with tens of million of deaths. I'm not accusing Hindus, as a group, of violence so don't need to go to a Temple to prove anything. You might need to visit your local mosque and report back the hateful things you hear. Everyone is welcome.
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3. Condemning wrong takes guts I and other posters here have equivocally condemned the lynching, whereas you pussyfooted when I asked your views on Gazwa-e-hind and the two verses quoted by Tarek Fatah (see below for the link). The ignorance you feigned is called hypocrisy.
Where did you and others condemn the lynchings? I have said in the post you linked that "We all need to condemn all crimes". You seem to be interested in posting only the crimes committed by Muslims which are many but they are neither alone nor majority. You are welcome to show me when you posted crimes committed by a Hindu or Christian. Double standard anyone?
http://canadiandesi.com/read.php?TID=37308
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4. Terrorists vs. criminals Are you comparing gorakshaks to terrorists driven by values that are incompatible with free speech, gender equality, science and human rights? I hope you read the newspaper. What is the worst gorakshaks could do – make India beef free? Are they bombing innocent people to get to heaven? Are they beheading non-believers? Are they seeking refuge in other countries and terrorizing the society? Victimhood is an easy card to play, introspection and facing the truth is hard.
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Same thing - why would you kill someone for something he doesn't believe in. You seem confused - you talk about free speech and human rights and then talk about making India beef free? India is not a theocracy.
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I pointed you at the stars and all you saw was the tip of my finger
Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada
Posted on: 06-04-17 19:28:50
Not evryone believe in Mohandas Gandhi's "If someone slaps you on one side of your face, turn the other one to him"
Non-violence does not always mean cowardice.
You keep slaping and always expect people to stay calm ?... it dosent always work there r always few elements which will lose patience and act stupid.
Learn to respect others feeling then there is no problem...
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'Some goals are so worthy, it's glorious even to fail.' (Param Vir Chakra awardee Lt. Manoj Pandey)
Luckysaab,
As usual your reply has many logical fallacies. So I am not going to waste too much time here; I will just point out a few of the fallacies below in bold.
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1. Alwar assault by gorakshaks – The goraskshaks broke the law; it is shameful; a blot on the secular democracy of India. The criminals must be tried and punished. Period.
Can we call him a Hindu terrorist? Fallacy- False analogy or comparing apples and oranges
2. Never been to a temple? : You should go once. All are welcome there, whether you believe or not believe! Hinduism embraced atheists 2000+ years ago. Also no one had to go to the place of worship that were spewing hate speech. Wrong things come out eventually.
Unlike many in here I believe all religions are good and are primary civilizing force and for the most part instill absolute ethical standards. If you talk about violence historically people have used all ideologies to commit violence. Consider Communist Russia and China in recent times with tens of million of deaths. I'm not accusing Hindus, as a group, of violence so don't need to go to a Temple to prove anything. You might need to visit your local mosque and report back the hateful things you hear. Everyone is welcome. Fallacy -
Ignoratio Elenchi or missing the point
3. Condemning wrong takes guts I and other posters here have equivocally condemned the lynching, whereas you pussyfooted when I asked your views on Gazwa-e-hind and the two verses quoted by Tarek Fatah (see below for the link). The ignorance you feigned is called hypocrisy.
Where did you and others condemn the lynchings? I have said in the post you linked that "We all need to condemn all crimes". You seem to be interested in posting only the crimes committed by Muslims which are many but they are neither alone nor majority. You are welcome to show me when you posted crimes committed by a Hindu or Christian. Double standard anyone?
Fallacy- Avoiding question.
Don't hide behind "we all need to...". Answer the specific question!
http://canadiandesi.com/read.php?TID=37308
4. Terrorists vs. criminals Are you comparing gorakshaks to terrorists driven by values that are incompatible with free speech, gender equality, science and human rights? I hope you read the newspaper. What is the worst gorakshaks could do – make India beef free? Are they bombing innocent people to get to heaven? Are they beheading non-believers? Are they seeking refuge in other countries and terrorizing the society? Victimhood is an easy card to play, introspection and facing the truth is hard.
Same thing - why would you kill someone for something he doesn't believe in. You seem confused - you talk about free speech and human rights and then talk about making India beef free? India is not a theocracy. Fallacy- Straw man - you are putting words in my mouth. Did you miss the word "worst" in my reply?
Read my #1 and 4 one more time. I and other posters condemned the actions of gorakshaks
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Originally posted by RaOne
Fallacy- False analogy or comparing apples and oranges
Lol, if hindu kills someone it is 'False anology', if muslim kills someone then it is 'terrorism'...
Location: Brampton, Ont, Canada
Posted on: 07-04-17 11:33:42
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Agony is at least we condemn the wrong doing of Hindu criminals.
Where you guys hide behind minority/victim excuse to prove terrorist right ...FUNNY ISN'T IT ?
Again, What those stupid cow Rakshak did was wrong and they should be punished... but it sad to see you guys don't see different the between terrorist and criminal.
instead of fighting here why don't you advice your Muslim fellows to sped more time getting educated then wasting time in sharia/madressa teaching - Education might drive them away from mullah mentality and that may help them in long run as well as other community
Can you guys do that ? - answer is NO - because deep inside you all believe what whatever mullah are doing is to protect Islam so you will not raise a voice againts it....
Most of us openly condemn the act of any Hindu's, who hurt/kill innocent ... while i hardly see that coming out of so called moderate ( educated) Muslims
If you still have problem understanding the root cause then i have nothing else to say...
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'Some goals are so worthy, it's glorious even to fail.' (Param Vir Chakra awardee Lt. Manoj Pandey)
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Originally posted by Blue_Peafowl
but it sad to see you guys don't see different the between terrorist and criminal.
I don't know what you call a person other than "terrorist" when he/she gets inspired by religious beliefs and goes on killing others...
Hum aah bhi karte hain to ho jate hain badnaam,
Wo qatal bhi karte hain to charcha nahin hota
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Originally posted by pipedream
Hum aah bhi karte hain to ho jate hain badnaam,
Wo qatal bhi karte hain to charcha nahin hota
Urj kiya hain,
Ek Aap Ho Ki Kitne Achche,
Ek Aap Ho Ki Kitne Pyaare,
Ek Aap Ho Ki Kitne Sachche,
Ek Hum Hai Ki Jo Juth Pe Juth Bole Ja Rahe..!
