Posted on: 18-01-05 14:06:24
General Labor : I think (and correct me if am wrong) it means continuously doing physically challenging work.
Depending on the employer who u r working for, Typically :
a) Work in packaging department (do the packing)
b) Work in QA department (check packaged items, etc..)
c) Work in Shipping department (load trucks)
d) Sewing machine operators
e) Pressing (Ironing)
etc, etc...
I think any work that involves physical labor (majuri) falls under this category.
Let me explain by giving u a general idea of what how some people live here...(assuming they are doing labor work)
U get paid minimum wages. Work 8/12 Hrs a day...non-stop...with just 2/3 breaks per day. Cant take phone calls(some companies). You get paid by the minute. (Go out to take a phone call that lasts 10 minutes and they cut ur pay.) They pay you 1and1/2 times when u work extra hours(evenings/weekends), which most people would gladly do just to be able to afford their desires. You dont get vacations. Dont get to spend enough time with ur kids. Saving is tough. Making ends meet is tough. And when u go to India, u go spend like a lakh in a month and show everyone that ur rich and life is wonderful out here. Its like 
On the brigther note, if i may will, u will be earning in dollars and will be able to live on ur own. Assuming u make 8$/hr(varies by provinces) and work 40 hrs a week, u make 320/week i.e. 1280/month. After taxes, its like 900/month. 900*35=31500/- Rs/month.... Sounds good, doesnt it? well, if ur paying 900$/month rent for an appartment, with 2 people doing labor work, u WILL save some money, and will be more than willing to put in those gruelling extra hours...
U dont wanna depend on anyone. In the initial days u cry at the end of every day. After a while u get used to it, and can laugh about it. U can buy a second hand car in like 2 years.
bison
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Orginally posted by crenshaw
Companies - especially larger employers - take their safety standards very seriously and also expend a fair amount of resources in ensuring that abuses to not occur. They do that for a reason - they could be subject to huge fines if found to be in violation, besides the negative publicity from being labelled as having an irresponsible corporate culture....
They are very few in Toronto. They hire directly rather than going thru palcement agencies. BUT where do the majority of immigrants get work / labour jobs from. Agencies, correct? These agencies will send them to companies where rules are not followed or rather any rule exists for these companies.
You have a very good experience of Canada. From labour job to a office work environment, it is a 180 deg turn. Believe me, I have experienced.
You may be taking care that law are followed becuase of your dedication and being a new immigrant. Officials who are in Canada for quite a length period, they don't care how work is done.
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The compliance thing is a 50 - 50. Where the employee is not willing to take the initiative the employer just doesnt care.
The place where I work is ISO9000 certified. So everything has a basic standard below which it never goes. Or so you would think. but it does.
But anyways We could argue about it forever and I am not going to do that.
There are a very large number of smaller compnaies who dont give a shit about rules. the people they employ are temp of temp.....By which i mean on a day to day basis. You go to the agency before 7 am in the morning with your steel toe boots and wait to be literally handed an assignment for a day or two or something like that.
Mine is not that type. I am a temp working on hourly basis for 40 hours a week upto a max of two years. After which they lay you off because there is a rule which says you have to hire a person as a permanent employee if he/she has been working at your place for 2+ years.
Even if there was 100% compliance it would not change the nature of the Job which is very physical in nature.
To the original poster, go to the local wholesale / warhouse area in your town/city and that is basically the nature of work that labor jobs have here or for that matter anywhere in the world. If you live in Delhi go to Sadar Bazaar or azadpur sabzi mandi
and you will know. reminder that i am talking about the job and not about compliance to rules. The actual act.
The work revolves around 3 - 8 hour shifts.
7 am - 3:15 pm
3:15 pm - 11:30 pm
11:30 pm to 7:00 am.
Sometimes companies have just 2 shitfs. My company is going to change it into 2 shifts of 10 hrs duration and Just 4 days a week.
Pay varies from 8 - a max of 13 $ CDN for temp positions. If the company hires you then it will increase to 15 + and if you stay long enough to 20 - 25.
One thing is if you stay long enough at one place you are likely to be given less labor type of jobs like support (driving, supervising etc..). Which is very very easy compared to the former. That way you get 20 + / hr for doing very little work. I see people who have been hired and perm never leaving the company. they have been there for an average of 10 - 35 years
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If you need any more info do not hesitate to ask.
BTW, am I the only one on Cd who is in a labor job or maybe the only one who admits to it. Comon out Guys, you have nothing to lose. there is dignity of Labor in Canada. thats what they have me believe.
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Orginally posted by bison
a) Work in packaging department (do the packing)
b) Work in QA department (check packaged items, etc..)
c) Work in Shipping department (load trucks)
d) Sewing machine operators
e) Pressing (Ironing)
etc, etc...
good overview, i missed the various departments within say a warehouse.
There is receiving (unloading a truck).
Also DIO is right. The worst culprits are the temp aganecies (both small and big). There is virtually no way to track them and what they do (and dont do). The only way if you feel your are in an absolutely untenable situation is to walk out of it, right then and there.
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Why don't people do jobs as security guards instead of labour jobs? Is there any special requirement for those jobs? I see quite a few ads in the classifieds everyday that have requirements of security guards etc. and they have no past experience conditions. The pay, I guess, would be the same as what one would get in labour jobs and it won't be physically exhausting. So what's the deal? Why labour jobs in preference?
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Diogenes
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The Cynic
I dont get it.
U come to this country looking for a "brighter future" and start with a labor job in order to meet the ends. Fine. Will u have enough time to look into the job u want or trained to do? Will u have time to do that? U have to attend interviews, looking over ads in newspaper and internet, etc.
Looking for a job itself is a job. If someone is working second shift, they may do ok (scheduling interviews before lunch, etc), otherwise they have to take time off from work. If u work for an agency, there may be a problem.
DIO
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Orginally posted by DiogenestheCynic
Why don't people do jobs as security guards instead of labour jobs? Is there any special requirement for those jobs? I see quite a few ads in the classifieds everyday that have requirements of security guards etc. and they have no past experience conditions. The pay, I guess, would be the same as what one would get in labour jobs and it won't be physically exhausting. So what's the deal? Why labour jobs in preference?
This is one more scam going on in Toronto. Similar to your idea, agencies are aware that new immigrant will look for lesser labour jobs. The advertisment you are talking off is a big scam on the name of training for security jobs. These agencies tell you that Canada has opening for many many security jobs. BUT you have to pay $200 for the training and after that you get qualified to apply for security job. Once you have paid and take training from them, suddenly there are no more open jobs in security.
Everybody is trying to rip off money from immigrant.
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