FRANCE banned all religious symbols from their schools, should Canada do the sam
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Posted on: 12-05-05 14:31:27
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Orginally posted by Das-FX
It is obvious that you have missed my point. You are turing the issue into something else, when you could have simply realized your mistake in words and been done with it.
Now you are talking about cultural dress, so I don't see your point. The law extends to religious headgear only. In North American schools, children cannot wear baseball caps, so therefore no other cultural head gear can be worn. What is the point you are trying to make. I wish you would express yourself in a clear and concise way.
As for the use of the term redneck, do you even know what that means?
What was your point again?
I am making the point that dressing is a cultural thing and not religious. In case of arabs there is a cultural aspect to it.
The frech should just ban it without alluding to religion or that it will tame fundamentalism.
Yes i know what redneck means. what do you think it means?
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Orginally posted by Das-FX
Other cultural head gear has already been banned in schools. One cannot wear them purely based on cultural tradition. Religious headgear was protected from these rules (as they currently are in Canada), however now this has changed. So really, they have no option but to allude to religion cause every other piece of headgear was already banned in schools.
What other cultural head gear do arabs were wearing that got banned?
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Please share with everyone your definition of a red neck. You first used the word so I'd love to hear what you meant by it.
Merriam-Websters:
Main Entry: red·neck
Pronunciation: 'red-"nek
Function: noun
1 sometimes disparaging : a white member of the Southern rural laboring class
2 often disparaging : a person whose behavior and opinions are similar to those attributed to rednecks
I can tell you I dont mean it in a disparaging way.
He likes to watch Nascar, go to a rodeo, watch Wrestling and shoot rifles...and live in a trailer park...nothing wrong with that.
Cowboys might do some or all of it.
Now yours, please
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Orginally posted by Das-FX
Before this law in France, any and all headgear that was not associated with religion was banned in schools. (ie. Baseball caps, baret, Arab caps, etc). Any religious headgear was permitted based on Freedom of Religion. Now, with the law, all headgear, religious or otherwise is not permitted. I cannot express this in any clearer way.
ok.
I stand by my earlier point that geting rid of religious symbols will not get rid of fundamentalism. I mentioned colonialism because of a reason other than the point I made in that post. And that is, the reason for Islamic fundamentalismlies does not lie in France, it is somewhere outside. Specifically it is somewhere in the way Islam is interpreted by some (wahabi) and in the mindset of the West that it can at its whim decide their fate. there are others. It is all related.
I am just looking at a slightly bigger picture.
Better just get all the caps or whatever and burn it at the champs elysees.
Yeah, that should do it.
BTW, Its Beret and not Baret.
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As for your definition of a red neck, this is not your own words. You cheated and simply copied the words of someone else.
Cheating?
I believe we have been through quite a lot here on Cd, this is the first such accusation.
So if I had not quoted the source and just typed it out as if I was saying it, then would you still say I had cheated?
Its the Merriam - Websters Dictionary and represents an officially recognized meaning.
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If you want the real definition of the word redneck, here it is. It is used to desribe farmers. Why? Because as they are out working in the fields all day in the sun, their necks would often become sunburned. So a farmer could be distinguished by his or her “red neck”.
I know about this. I have been in North America for 9 years.
you dont miss this kind of thing even if you try.
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Now this word has been used also to describe people (usually Caucasian) who live in rural area. It is considered a disparaging remark as they are thought to be narrow minded.
I know this too. The above meaning says that.
I have actually worked with east texans (as redneck as it gets) and a few of them were pretty proud of it. And they dont mind people saying things about them. They are very down to earth, simple and have a great sense of humor.
But I would still go by the Dictionary.
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It has nothing to do with what kind of racing you like, or other sports. If you traveled more, you would see plenty of non-whites who like Nascar, wrestling, live in trailer parks, and wear cowboy hats, including people of East Indian decent.
What makes you think I havent travelled enough?
Or is that your way of personalizing this discussion.
Sorry I dont do that. You might find some others here who will readily oblige.
That is what they mostly do when they are not working.
Its the 3 Rs, raslin, racin, riflin....among many other passtimes.
I am sure you watch TRAILER PARK BOYS. If you do you know what I am talking about. If you dont, you should. its Canadian and damn good.
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Lastly , French are ok. Just ok. Not more , not less. For every virtue they possess as a people , there is a vice. Just like any other country / people.
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Orginally posted by Das-FX
You really got me there! My goodness, I made a spelling error, you really showed me.
Yes.....DOnt worry its quite common here ...i.e. correcting spelling mistakes.
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As for my claim of cheating, well it all goes back to what I originally asked. I asked for YOUR definition of the word and what YOU thought it meant. If I wanted to know how the Merriam - Websters Dictionary defined that word, I would have looked it up myself.
Next time save us and yourself the trouble and look it up in the dictionary.
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As for becoming personal, I see nothing wrong with that. If anything can be said negatively about North America, it is far too impersonal at times. Good or bad, I have no problem getting personal.
But I do. It shows immaturity. Though If thats your style, then so be it.
Be ready for appropriate responses.
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In this specific situation, I suggested that you had not traveled enough due to the way you implied that the hobbies of Nascar, Wrestling and Guns is only one of Redneck Caucasians. Because in my opinion, one who has traveled throughout North America would know that this is not true.
I am not implying. I am saying thats the way it is.
Forget about how much I have travelled or not, Knowledge can be had through other means. I could sit at the Mississauga Central library and learn about anything I wanted. And come here and tell you. I would be right.
But that might be cheating.
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