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ramar2005   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-02-07 09:51:33

Mr. Cho Ramaswamy a great journalist, an eminent parliamentarian, lawyer, and highly succesful script writer, stage and movie artiste.
He has analysed the speeches made by the Tamil Nadu Law Minister and the Chief Minister at a wedding function. It is this sort of analysis with clinical precision, that makes him predict the future political scenario at both the Centre and the State with a great level of accuracy.

http://indiainteracts.com/columnist/2007/02/23/Absolute-power-will-render-laws-meaningless-/

Absolute power will render laws meaningless

"Written byCho Ramaswamy and Translated from Thuglak by TSV Hari.

It is obvious that the intoxication of absolute power is steadily taking control of the cerebrum of the ruling party. It has forced the opposition parties on the back foot by initiating innumerable litigations; threatened journalists by referring to them by their castes; chased away voters by indulging in rowdyism; put the fear of unknown into several with the threat of nationalisation; public meetings were hindered by using the pliant police...
And the latest attack has been on the judiciary.

Minister Arcot N Veeraswamy had launched a vile diatribe against judges during a marriage ceremony. "[Judges] do not have the right to criticise the elected Chief Minister, they do not have the legal authority to demand to know the government's reaction on [any] matter...I do not think that the judges have more power than the elected Chief Minister and who has given them the power to usurp his rights? It is not right on their part to think that they can rule Tamil Nadu..." was his refrain.

Pray what did the [High] Court say to invite such a verbal assault?

The minister has gone on record listing two instances.

[1] A [High Court] judge who admitted that the he doesn't have the rights of cancelling the [Chennai] Corporation elections had asked, "whether the state government was willing to accept electoral observers."

This has triggered the rising temper of the minister.

"Why is the court talking about electoral observers after admitting that it does not have the power to interfere with the elections? Do they think that this is some kind of rowdy justice," the minister angrily demanded to know.
It is obvious that the courts knew their inability to interfere with the elections when they requested the government about a possibility of having electoral observer[s]. If the courts had the power to do so, they would certainly have stayed the elections. In the absence of such powers the judge has tried to explore possibilities of getting the election conducted in some kind of acceptable fairness.

The minister has termed this "rowdy justice."

It is quite normal for the courts to attempt to get reactions from both the plaintiffs as well as the respondents for amicably settling an issue.
Obviously the sense of fairness is lost on those who habitually indulge in foul play.

The judge has only explained the course of natural justice.

"Can the courts advice the Chief Minister?" Veeraswamy has asked. That good advice would be useless on this government is besides the point. But, a command to ban advice [even from the courts] is the height of arrogance.

Due to the very fact that the courts are the final dispensers of justice, provision has been made [in the Constitution] necessitating the need for the President of India (read central government) to seek their permission. On several instances the central government has acted according to the wishes of the judiciary. Many improper consequences have been avoided by this practice. I do not know whether it is a rational practice to wish newly weds well by launching a broadside against the judiciary. But it is evident that this event will not result in the government's improving its standing in the eyes of the masses.

[2] The minister's annoyance is connected to the affair of a girl student's lifeless body floating in a school well at Omalur [in Salem district]. The matter is being heard in the courts. When the issue of appointing a probe into the matter cropped up, the government bluntly told the court that it has no such intention. But [within days] the government appointed its own enquiry commission. The government sought to know the rationale behind it.

Why did the government appoint the commission even as the matter was being heard in the courts despite saying the exact opposite? Was it an endeavour to bury the incident? If not, what else was the reason? Naturally these doubts have perturbed the courts and as a result they have condemned the move. That was enough to inflame the minister. "Have the courts been accorded rights not possessed by the Chief Minister?" he asked.

If the executive errs, it is the prerogative of the judiciary to restore parity and this has been clearly stated in the Constitution. A Chief Minister may issue an order. But the courts have the rights to sit in judgement over the commissions and omissions of the CM. This simple fact seems to be lost on the minister.

If the minister is so ignorant about even rudimentary aspects of governance, he is unfit to hold office. If he has wantonly made these remarks his continuance is a danger to this government.

Okay. The minister has greeted newlyweds in this fashion and as per established forms of rationalism. If their future will be uneventful, we will indeed be happy. But Chief Minister [Karunanidhi] himself was present during the function and Veeraswamy insulted the courts in his presence. Did the Chief Minister condemn his cabinet colleague? He didn't. Was he at least apologetic? Unfortunately not. On the contrary, on his part, [Karunanidhi] not only praised the minister, he also condemned the judiciary.

Hailing Veeraswamy's remarks, the Chief Minister said, "at least after this, let honesty and justice prevail in this state."

In simple language, the CM has pointed out that the courts had functioned badly in the past and have been duly chastised by his cabinet colleague. In short, he hoped that the judiciary would make amends and behave "properly."

If this was the height of haughtiness, the CM's further remarks put his earlier observation in the shade. "Our enemies should understand that the central government depends on us for support and change their behaviour accordingly," he said.

The "advice" of the CM to the judges, in common parlance would read thus: "Hey errand boys of the judiciary! How dare you go against us? The central government does my bidding. What can you do anyway? In future, realise this fact and learn to behave subserviently."

It must be noted that the Chief Minister has referred to the judges as his "enemies."

Though the CM didn't say it in so many words, the message meant for the judiciary is clear.

The audacity of a Chief Minister in expecting the courts to kow-tow his line simply because his party is part of the coalition government at the centre is extremely dangerous. [Political parties based in] Andhra Pradesh, Kerala, West Bengal, Maharashtra, Assam, [the Union Territory of] Delhi, Puduchery, Punjab are also part of the UPA at the centre. Will judges in these states have to heed the threat of the TN government and accept whatever the CMs [heading the political parties in those states] do as the legal gospel?

Very good! This is an excellent lesson in jurisprudence.

Apart from these warnings of dire consequences to "enemy" judges, the CM has added a parting shot based on a blatant lie.

Judges should understand that Tamils throughout the world are supporting the DMK government in Tamil Nadu, goes the additional warning.

At least 55 percent of the voters in Tamil Nadu have not supported the DMK government. On the contrary they are against this regime. Nobody has so far conducted a census of the Tamils living all over the world. Therefore, this is a pompous threat. Such political muscle flexing slogans may look good during party rallies because that is what they are meant for in the first place.

But it must be recorded here that such sloganeering is in bad taste.

The speeches of the minister and the Chief Minister can be considered as contempt of court. Be that as may be, this also shows that that the DMK is intoxicated with absolute power – both at the state and the centre. The threats to the judiciary are a warning to the people of the state. If we are to be governed by people who have lost their mental balance, laws will be rendered meaningless. "


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Desi Raja   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-02-07 11:31:59

Quote:
Originally posted by ramar2005

Mr. Cho Ramaswamy a great journalist, an eminent parliamentarian, lawyer, and highly succesful script writer, stage and movie artiste.
He has analysed the speeches made by the Tamil Nadu Law Minister and the Chief Minister at a wedding function. It is this sort of analysis with clinical precision, that makes him predict the future political scenario at both the Centre and the State with a great level of accuracy.

http://indiainteracts.com/columnist/2007/02/23/Absolute-power-will-render-laws-meaningless-/

Absolute power will render laws meaningless

"Written byCho Ramaswamy and Translated from Thuglak by TSV Hari.

It is obvious that the intoxication of absolute power is steadily taking control of the cerebrum of the ruling party. It has forced the opposition parties on the back foot by initiating innumerable litigations; threatened journalists by referring to them by their castes; chased away voters by indulging in rowdyism; put the fear of unknown into several with the threat of nationalisation; public meetings were hindered by using the pliant police...
And the latest attack has been on the judiciary.

Minister Arcot N Veeraswamy had launched a vile diatribe against judges during a marriage ceremony. "[Judges] do not have the right to criticise the elected Chief Minister, they do not have the legal authority to demand to know the government's reaction on [any] matter...I do not think that the judges have more power than the elected Chief Minister and who has given them the power to usurp his rights? It is not right on their part to think that they can rule Tamil Nadu..." was his refrain.

Pray what did the [High] Court say to invite such a verbal assault?

The minister has gone on record listing two instances.

[1] A [High Court] judge who admitted that the he doesn't have the rights of cancelling the [Chennai] Corporation elections had asked, "whether the state government was willing to accept electoral observers."

This has triggered the rising temper of the minister.

"Why is the court talking about electoral observers after admitting that it does not have the power to interfere with the elections? Do they think that this is some kind of rowdy justice," the minister angrily demanded to know.
It is obvious that the courts knew their inability to interfere with the elections when they requested the government about a possibility of having electoral observer[s]. If the courts had the power to do so, they would certainly have stayed the elections. In the absence of such powers the judge has tried to explore possibilities of getting the election conducted in some kind of acceptable fairness.

The minister has termed this "rowdy justice."

It is quite normal for the courts to attempt to get reactions from both the plaintiffs as well as the respondents for amicably settling an issue.
Obviously the sense of fairness is lost on those who habitually indulge in foul play.

The judge has only explained the course of natural justice.

"Can the courts advice the Chief Minister?" Veeraswamy has asked. That good advice would be useless on this government is besides the point. But, a command to ban advice [even from the courts] is the height of arrogance.

Due to the very fact that the courts are the final dispensers of justice, provision has been made [in the Constitution] necessitating the need for the President of India (read central government) to seek their permission. On several instances the central government has acted according to the wishes of the judiciary. Many improper consequences have been avoided by this practice. I do not know whether it is a rational practice to wish newly weds well by launching a broadside against the judiciary. But it is evident that this event will not result in the government's improving its standing in the eyes of the masses.

[2] The minister's annoyance is connected to the affair of a girl student's lifeless body floating in a school well at Omalur [in Salem district]. The matter is being heard in the courts. When the issue of appointing a probe into the matter cropped up, the government bluntly told the court that it has no such intention. But [within days] the government appointed its own enquiry commission. The government sought to know the rationale behind it.

Why did the government appoint the commission even as the matter was being heard in the courts despite saying the exact opposite? Was it an endeavour to bury the incident? If not, what else was the reason? Naturally these doubts have perturbed the courts and as a result they have condemned the move. That was enough to inflame the minister. "Have the courts been accorded rights not possessed by the Chief Minister?" he asked.

If the executive errs, it is the prerogative of the judiciary to restore parity and this has been clearly stated in the Constitution. A Chief Minister may issue an order. But the courts have the rights to sit in judgement over the commissions and omissions of the CM. This simple fact seems to be lost on the minister.

If the minister is so ignorant about even rudimentary aspects of governance, he is unfit to hold office. If he has wantonly made these remarks his continuance is a danger to this government.

Okay. The minister has greeted newlyweds in this fashion and as per established forms of rationalism. If their future will be uneventful, we will indeed be happy. But Chief Minister [Karunanidhi] himself was present during the function and Veeraswamy insulted the courts in his presence. Did the Chief Minister condemn his cabinet colleague? He didn't. Was he at least apologetic? Unfortunately not. On the contrary, on his part, [Karunanidhi] not only praised the minister, he also condemned the judiciary.

Hailing Veeraswamy's remarks, the Chief Minister said, "at least after this, let honesty and justice prevail in this state."

In simple language, the CM has pointed out that the courts had functioned badly in the past and have been duly chastised by his cabinet colleague. In short, he hoped that the judiciary would make amends and behave "properly."

If this was the height of haughtiness, the CM's further remarks put his earlier observation in the shade. "Our enemies should understand that the central government depends on us for support and change their behaviour accordingly," he said.

The "advice" of the CM to the judges, in common parlance would read thus: "Hey errand boys of the judiciary! How dare you go against us? The central government does my bidding. What can you do anyway? In future, realise this fact and learn to behave subserviently."

It must be noted that the Chief Minister has referred to the judges as his "enemies."

Though the CM didn't say it in so many words, the message meant for the judiciary is clear.

The audacity of a Chief Minister in expecting the courts to kow-tow his line simply because his party is part of the coalition government at the centre is extremely dangerous. [Political parties based in] Andhra Pradesh, Kerala, West Bengal, Maharashtra, Assam, [the Union Territory of] Delhi, Puduchery, Punjab are also part of the UPA at the centre. Will judges in these states have to heed the threat of the TN government and accept whatever the CMs [heading the political parties in those states] do as the legal gospel?

Very good! This is an excellent lesson in jurisprudence.

Apart from these warnings of dire consequences to "enemy" judges, the CM has added a parting shot based on a blatant lie.

Judges should understand that Tamils throughout the world are supporting the DMK government in Tamil Nadu, goes the additional warning.

At least 55 percent of the voters in Tamil Nadu have not supported the DMK government. On the contrary they are against this regime. Nobody has so far conducted a census of the Tamils living all over the world. Therefore, this is a pompous threat. Such political muscle flexing slogans may look good during party rallies because that is what they are meant for in the first place.

But it must be recorded here that such sloganeering is in bad taste.

The speeches of the minister and the Chief Minister can be considered as contempt of court. Be that as may be, this also shows that that the DMK is intoxicated with absolute power – both at the state and the centre. The threats to the judiciary are a warning to the people of the state. If we are to be governed by people who have lost their mental balance, laws will be rendered meaningless. "



What can you expect from a bunch of Hooligans who are ruling on the basis of language and caste divisons they created !!!!



balaq8   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 24-02-07 12:37:14


State is doing well in all fronts. Please dont give importance to Cho's comments. He knows only to critisice. He can not offer any solution.
Read this news to find how TN is attracting more industries

Now Nissan Motor to build factory here in Chennai.
The Mahindra-Renault-Nissan combine has decided on Chennai as the location for its 8-lakh units per year car manufacturing facility. According to foreign news agencies, the three companies and the Tamil Nadu government will make an announcement on the project on Monday. The facility, which will be the largest in the country, will be scaled up in two phases — 4 lakh units every year by 2009 and 8 lakh vehicles by 2012.

Nissan is believed to be jointly developing a small car for the Indian market with its alliance partner Renault. Tamil Nadu’s gain is Maharashtra’s loss.

You can get more details from this link > http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Nissan_Motor_to_build_factory_in_India/articleshow/1670530.cms.


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Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-07 01:46:42

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Originally posted by balaq8


State is doing well in all fronts. Please dont give importance to Cho's comments. He knows only to critisice. He can not offer any solution.
Read this news to find how TN is attracting more industries

Now Nissan Motor to build factory here in Chennai.
The Mahindra-Renault-Nissan combine has decided on Chennai as the location for its 8-lakh units per year car manufacturing facility. According to foreign news agencies, the three companies and the Tamil Nadu government will make an announcement on the project on Monday. The facility, which will be the largest in the country, will be scaled up in two phases — 4 lakh units every year by 2009 and 8 lakh vehicles by 2012.

Nissan is believed to be jointly developing a small car for the Indian market with its alliance partner Renault. Tamil Nadu’s gain is Maharashtra’s loss.

You can get more details from this link > http://ec-onomictimes.indiatimes.com/Nissan_Motor_to_build_factory_in_India/articleshow/1670530.cms.</font>


Just because Chennai is attracting more investment does not mean that " State is doing well in all fronts." Going by this standard, perhaps Saudi Arabia is also doing great job! (they attract much more investment than Chennai). DMK and its allies are the most castist and communal fanatics. One of the lessons that we learnt in "Civics" subject was on Pros and Cons of Democratic system. One of the obvious drawbacks of the system is "Democracy is rule by mediocrats" which is so true in case of Chennai . DMK , in substance, is no different from Nur Maliki's Democratic govt in Iraq.

Seems that you are one of the fanatical disciple of half blind crook Karuna nidhi



balaq8   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-07 09:23:34

Hi Nightmare!
Karunanidhi or Jayalaliha, both are basically same, no big differnces.
What I want to tell is , despite this TamiNadu is doing well and I showed one example. It is not possible to show you all achievements here.
Both leaders are doing well to bring the state forward .

I think your comparison of SaudiArabia to Tamilnadu is unwise!


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Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-07 10:02:53

Quote:
Originally posted by balaq8

Hi Nightmare!
Karunanidhi or Jayalaliha, both are basically same, no big differnces.
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I agree. Both have criminal record and psyche! They represent true character
of MAJORITY of Tamils.
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What I want to tell is , despite this TamiNadu is doing well and I showed one example. It is not possible to show you all achievements here.
Both leaders are doing well to bring the state forward .

I think your comparison of SaudiArabia to Tamilnadu is unwise!


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Bring the state forward!! Ha ha ha. They are jockeying for "backwards" . You know Tamilnadu is the only state in India with 70% reservation. If chennai is developing (economic progress), which I believe is true, then it is not because of criminals like Karunanidhi or Jaylalitha, it is DESPITE them. The Chennai story is quite similar to Indian story which has started showing economic progress inspite of Sonia, Manmohan and communists. Credit for this should go to Indian entreprenuers and professionals and not to politicians.

However, the gang of crooks represented by present UPA is trying their best to harm India and Indians. Only time will tell who prevails. I hope and pray Indians prevail and not UPA policies
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ramar2005   
Member since: Sep 04
Posts: 1233
Location: India.

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-02-07 11:16:52

Whatever economic growth in TN or even India, owes it to the Deiva Bakthi, Desa Bakthi, basic family values and the importance to education given by the lower and middle class sections of the society. It is among these classes that Mr.Cho and his writings are popular. The economic growth is definitely not to any of the politicians of this era. In TN, their contribution to economic growth is as much as Cho's contribution in bringing about the M&M-Nissan project. To borrow his own style, we can say none of the rulers in TN during the last 40 years can be accused of possessing the qualities mentioned in the first sentence.
Regarding the charge the Mr.Cho Ramaswamy does not give any solution to problems, his contribution to TN is extraordinary for the last 50 years. As a journalist, he has been boldly criticising corrupt politicians, some of whom having connections with smugglers and extremists. This does take a lot of courage.


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