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PIO to OCI Conversion




metouk
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Originally posted by Chamgadad

The day this idiot announced merger of PIO and OCI, I knew we are in big trouble.
Indian bureaucrats always find a way a problem to every solution.
Since it is pointless to argue with the idiots, can someone with recent firsthand experience please let me know answers to the following questions
1. Has anyone encountered any issues while travelling to India on a PIO that is valid but does not have the lifelong stamp etc.?


My daughter travelled last month , no issue encountered . As we were travelling with her new canadian passport and her PIO was issued on old passport so I was expecting some questions or concern but luckily no question was asked .


 
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Post ID: 229980 24-01-16 18:29:27
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Chamgadad
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thx for the info
Thanks for the info
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Originally posted by metouk

Quote:
Originally posted by Chamgadad

The day this idiot announced merger of PIO and OCI, I knew we are in big trouble.
Indian bureaucrats always find a way a problem to every solution.
Since it is pointless to argue with the idiots, can someone with recent firsthand experience please let me know answers to the following questions
1. Has anyone encountered any issues while travelling to India on a PIO that is valid but does not have the lifelong stamp etc.?


My daughter travelled last month , no issue encountered . As we were travelling with her new canadian passport and her PIO was issued on old passport so I was expecting some questions or concern but luckily no question was asked .





 
Post ID: 230001 25-01-16 22:45:18
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photohobbyst1
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I am happy to report that I succeeded in following this stupid process and getting atleast one childs PIO converted to OCI.

On first visit, they did not take one childs application as the Place of birth on the form (u fill it online and then take a print out) did not exactly match the passport, so be sure to have the passport handy when filling that online form.

It took a month since I submitted to when it was ready for pickup. When I went to pickup, I submitted my second childs application and now waiting a month to see what happens. This time I was prepared to fill their idiotic asks and some I did not as I argued with them. He grudingly took the form saying, don't tell me if it does not get done.

Even after I showed him an email that I had received from CGI Torontos OCI dept indicating that only things that need to be submitted are

1. Print out of Online filled form
2. Photo
3. Photocopy of current passport
4. Photocopy of existing valid PIO card.

He starts asking, do you have a print out of successfully uploading photo, thumb impression of child and documents (passport and pio card), parents Indian passport photo copy.

This really irritated, despite showing him the email and a print out from CGIToronto's site on the PIO to OCI conversion, which also asks to just submit these.

He finally grudingly took it saying you will have to track the application yourself and provide if anything is missing.

So all I can advise is to take a print of this web page
http://cgitoronto.ca/content/pio-0

Take screenshots of each and every screen as you fill the online application and take a print out of that. You can take a photocopy of the Indian passport of parents (if doing for child), but really don't need to.

The big mistake they do is asking for all the things that is needed when one is applying for OCI without realizing that burden of proving indian origin is already done when we got the PIO card.

So stick to that argument and be prepared. Also, the fees should not be more than $9 change and reject the stupid $50 courier charge to send the PIO card. Just go and pick it up. And for pickup remember to get an authorization letter signed by other parent, just in case they ask. They did not ask me, but I heard others being asked.


Quote:
Originally posted by Chamgadad

The day this idiot announced merger of PIO and OCI, I knew we are in big trouble.
Indian bureaucrats always find a way a problem to every solution.
Since it is pointless to argue with the idiots, can someone with recent firsthand experience please let me know answers to the following questions
1. Has anyone encountered any issues while travelling to India on a PIO that is valid but does not have the lifelong stamp etc.?
2. Has anyone tried to convert the PIO recently at BLS online site? If yes did you have to mail the PIO or visit them in person?
3. Any tips to make the conversion process as painless as possible?

I did travel to India 4 times last year on a PIO w/o any issues.
Thanks in advance for your time.





 
Post ID: 230064 28-01-16 13:46:09
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metouk
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Hi , I am going to submit OCI form . My daughter in 3 years old . How can I attach thumb impression ? It seems that I have to take her thumb impression on one page , take photo of it and then attache it with online application ?
Please guide me


 
Post ID: 230471 08-03-16 06:32:53
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JRF
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Till date I repent having caught in this OCI / PIO wind.. Should have stayed with visa..

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The weak died on the way,
Only the strong arrived.
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Post ID: 230473 08-03-16 09:03:54
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chandresh
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So what does pixel mean in this case? I thought the size of the photos were in mm/cm

Applicant applying for OCI-Card in lieu of PIO Card, please note-

1. It is mandatory to upload Applicant's image and Applicant's signature image during OCI-Registration.

2. Both the images must be in jpeg or jpg format, with max size 200kb.

3. The height and width specifications of Applicant Photo are as follows:

The minimum dimensions are 200 pixels (width) x 200 pixels (height).
The maximum dimensions are 900 pixels (width) x 900 pixels (height).

4. The height and width specifications of Signature Photo are as follows:

The minimum dimensions are 200 pixels (width) x 67 pixels (height).
The maximum dimensions are 900 pixels (width) x 300 pixels (height).

5. Kindly be ready with both these images before starting the registration process.

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Chandresh

Advice is free lessons I charge for!!

 
Post ID: 230486 08-03-16 19:55:39
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Full House
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Your knowledge base has moved up vertically now.

Here is a little bit of help. Please read and get to understand the same if you can. You don't have to know everything. But it will suffice if you understand the same. May be I will link all of these at a later date. But they all are a part of the JPEG Pictures and PIXELS that we are going to discuss here.

Here we go..:

There can be printed pixels in a page, also pixels carried by electronic signals across from a device to a receiver, they represent digital values, or pixels on a display device, or pixels in a display of s digital camera, which is photo sensor elements. This list is not exhaustive examples and so, depending on context, synonyms include pel, sample, byte, bit, dot, and spot. PIXELS can be used as a unit of measure such as: 2400 pixels per inch, 640 pixels per line, or spaced 10 pixels apart etc., just to give an idea as to the field we are referring it to.

The common measures dots per inch, dpi, and/or pixels per inch, ppi, are sometimes used interchangeably, but have distinct meanings, especially for printing devices, where dpi is a measure of the printer's density of dots that gets placed on a paper. Just to give you an example, a high-quality photographic image may be printed with 600 ppi on a 1200 dpi inkjet printer. Even higher dpi numbers, such as the 4800 dpi quoted by printer manufacturers since 2002, do not mean much in terms of achievable print resolution, because there are limitations, due to the speed at which it can deposit and the performance of the print heads.

Some call it RESOLUTION, so, pixel counts can be expressed as a single number, as in a two-megapixel digital camera, which has a nominal two million pixels, or as a pair of numbers, as in a "640 by 480 display", which has 640 pixels from side to side and 480 from top to bottom, such as in a VGA display, which amounts to a total number of 640?480 = 307,200 pixels or 0.3 megapixels. This will give you an idea how the calculations are derived.

The pixels that they quote of these color samples, that form a digitized image, such as a JPEG file received as a picture attachment, may or may not be in one-to-one relationship with screen pixels you see, depending on how a computer displays it as an image, or you see it on a lap top screen. But in computing, an image composed of pixels is generally known as a Bitmapped Imager or a Raster Image, and this is for your information. The word raster originates from the TV Scanning of patterns, and it has been widely used to describe similar halftones in printing also and also in the storage techniques of the Images..

"I will limit these PIXELs and the counts to the subject matter in hand and to the Cameras that we handle.

One megapixel, or 1MP, is a million pixels. This term is used not only for the number of pixels in an image, but also to express the number of Image Sensor elements of a Digital Camera or the number of small dots as displayed. Just to give you an example, a camera that makes a picture display of 2048?1536 pixel image, which is Equal to 3,145,728 finished image pixels, typically uses these rows and columns of sensor elements and is commonly said to have "3.2 megapixels" or "3.4 megapixels", which is a "TOTAL" pixel count."

Most of the Digital cameras use photosensitive electronics, either Charge Coupled Device (CCD) or Complementary Metal Oxide Semi Conductor (CMOS) image sensors, which consists of a large number of single sensor elements, which are built into it and each of which records a measured intensity level of the colours it senses and reproduces the same onto its screen and also for recording it into its memory.

" So a picture that you take is ONLY as good as the Camera that you use to take them with."
xxx

Paper sizes. Don't want to get too deep into this subject matter, Except to tell you that the standard Letter Size Paper that we use is

8.5 in x 11.0 in. http://desguide.com/blog/standard-international-paper-sizes/

We use US. ANSI Paper Sizes. Which are 8.5 x 11.0 inches for the letter size.

http://desguide.com/blog/standard-international-paper-sizes/

xxx

https://www.iprintfromhome.com/mso/UnderstandingDPI.pdf

If the one above did not help.. : Read on...

http://easybasicphotography.com/image-resolution-pixels-print-sizes.html

If nothing works..: Then call The Ghost Busters... Here they are.

http://www.onlinepassportphoto.com/OCI_photo_specs_India.html

http://www.blsindia-canada.com/photo_spec.php

http://www.immihelp.com/nri/images/sample-photos.jpg

http://www.immihelp.com/nri/sample-photographs.html

https://www.in.ckgs.us/resources/pdf/photo-spec-final.pdf


These pictures posted under this are interactive and if you click on any picture it will take you to a webpage that will provide you ample instructions and explanation. So, Explore.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=images+of+passport+pictures+for+different+countries&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=923&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlw-KqprnLAhWD7D4KHZ8UDXcQsAQIGg#tbm=isch&tbs=rimg%3ACWI_1JERTBu8ZIjjsBmIDZC_1syrOViQLq97PqsmjnYBewZ6DL0PyIRp-jUZ6yziTubLjP4Zk4MLt3tkxdJzv2ngCXMioSCewGYgNkL-zKETwWEp7t_1mdeKhIJs5WJAur3s-oRPybthF_1NwfcqEgmyaOdgF7BnoBHt4SmZ3xihnioSCcvQ_1IhGn6NREeCLZZ9j1j1XKhIJnrLOJO5suM8R33Q-uZ-OTO4qEgnhmTgwu3e2TBHxqXQzJNCi3ioSCV0nO_1aeAJcyEdy0vW2EP31G&q=images%20of%20photos%20required%20for%20passport%20pictures%20different%20countries

https://www.google.ca/search?q=images+of+passport+pictures+for+different+countries&espv=2&biw=1280&bih=923&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlw-KqprnLAhWD7D4KHZ8UDXcQsAQIGg#tbm=isch&q=images+of+photos+required+for+passport+pictures+different+countries
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Quote:
Originally posted by chandresh

So what does pixel mean in this case? I thought the size of the photos were in mm/cm

Applicant applying for OCI-Card in lieu of PIO Card, please note-

1. It is mandatory to upload Applicant's image and Applicant's signature image during OCI-Registration.

2. Both the images must be in jpeg or jpg format, with max size 200kb.

3. The height and width specifications of Applicant Photo are as follows:

The minimum dimensions are 200 pixels (width) x 200 pixels (height).
The maximum dimensions are 900 pixels (width) x 900 pixels (height).

4. The height and width specifications of Signature Photo are as follows:

The minimum dimensions are 200 pixels (width) x 67 pixels (height).
The maximum dimensions are 900 pixels (width) x 300 pixels (height).

5. Kindly be ready with both these images before starting the registration process.





 
Post ID: 230521 11-03-16 16:16:23
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Chamgadad
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Quote:
Originally posted by JRF

Till date I repent having caught in this OCI / PIO wind.. Should have stayed with visa..


We did get some hassle free runs to India with PIO. Thanks to dumb Modi it is over now but we can always go back the visa route.



 
Post ID: 230688 19-03-16 09:19:08
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mkannuri
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I recently travelled to india and got my son's PIO card stamped with "Life Time Valid" at immigration check point.
Initially the immigraiton people are reluctant and directed me to convert into OCI but i insisted them to stamp.

Hope this serves the purpose and no need to go to inidan embassy in my life time (Sick of the process).

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Post ID: 230793 28-03-16 19:20:46
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elmer fudd
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This just in.

The deadline for conversion of PIO card/status to OCI card/status has been extended from 30-Jun-2016 to 31-Dec-2016.



www.mea.gov.in/press-releases.htm?dtl/26929/Merger+of+PIO+and+OCI+Cards


 
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