India @ war with Canada .Which side would you be ?
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Posted on: 22-09-06 10:35:41
But this is a typical of this discussion board. People go off topic by tearing down the points into minute issues and going off on tangents.
Allow me to set the record straight.
1. The title says this : India @ war with Canada .Which side would you be ? A simple enough question.
2. I bring the issue into focus for those with dual citizenships.
3. Jake3D makes the point that patriotism is a "relative" notion. One governed by the current spin between India and Canada.
4. I counter the "relative" idea and reaffirm my absolute patriotism to Canada. This is vis-a-vis the title.
5. and Jake3D takes offence to my pooh poohing the idea of "relativity" and makes the point that by changing my patriotism it is not absolute. He follows up by throwing some more tests of patriotism. It was not directly related the title but not too far off.
6. I take the opportunity explain what I mean by absolute patriotism. Vis-a-Vis the title, I am an absolute Canadian Patriot.
7. Yet again we have the pulling out of dictionary and finding the meaning absolute and the meaning of patriotism. What does this have to do with the topic at hand?
Let me say this. Absolute patriotism is the idea that I am patriotic to only one nation. One cannot have divided patriotism. That is unpatriotic to both nations involved in the war. This speaks to the title and dual citizenship. In a war between any other country and Canada, I stand with Canada. The other country involved, be it India, China, US, or Ireland, may spin my moral compass if they wish. My patriotism is not going to be affected. I may not agree with the war, the tactics, the leaders but I am still patriotic to Canada.
BV
Argue as much as you want but....
But this is a typical of this discussion board. People go off topic by tearing down the points into minute issues and going off on tangents.
Isn't this healthy? If this was not for discussion, then this would have been a poll: which side you would take? and the final answer would be in percentage.
"This is a discussion board".
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Originally posted by Big Vee
7. Yet again we have the pulling out of dictionary and finding the meaning absolute and the meaning of patriotism. What does this have to do with the topic at hand?
Are you sure theres no relation
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Let me say this. Absolute patriotism is the idea that I am patriotic to only one nation.
I agree...its an 'IDEA'.
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One cannot have divided patriotism. That is unpatriotic to both nations involved in the war.
We'll go in circles with this one
. Situations demand different responses. Both responses can be deemed 'Patriotic'. Quote:
In a war between any other country and Canada, I stand with Canada.
But not with the canadian establishment if it was acting AGAINST the concept of what Canada SHOULD BE/IS....this is your own admission
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I may not agree with the war, the tactics, the leaders but I am still patriotic to Canada.
We all are including the dual citizens
If you still dont get it. I'm not disagreeing with your definitions or your spin. I consider myself a Canadian citizen and NOT an Indian citizen. Forget dual citizenship, I did not even consider OIC(overseas citizen of India), instead I opted for the PIO(person of indian origin) inorder to make some investments there. My core beleifs may be very similar to yours...however that does not mean the people who do not think like me are wrong or on morally unsound ground, as you are implying in your 'judgements' on people who do take dual citizenship.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Big Vee
7. Yet again we have the pulling out of dictionary and finding the meaning absolute and the meaning of patriotism. What does this have to do with the topic at hand?
Are you sure theres no relation
Quote:
Let me say this. Absolute patriotism is the idea that I am patriotic to only one nation.
I agree...its an 'IDEA'.
Quote:
One cannot have divided patriotism. That is unpatriotic to both nations involved in the war.
We'll go in circles with this one
. Situations demand different responses. Both responses can be deemed 'Patriotic'. Quote:
In a war between any other country and Canada, I stand with Canada.
But not with the canadian establishment if it was acting AGAINST the concept of what Canada SHOULD BE/IS....this is your own admission
Quote:
I may not agree with the war, the tactics, the leaders but I am still patriotic to Canada.
We all are including the dual citizens
If you still dont get it. I'm not disagreeing with your definitions or your spin. I consider myself a Canadian citizen and NOT an Indian citizen. Forget dual citizenship, I did not even consider OIC(overseas citizen of India), instead I opted for the PIO(person of indian origin) inorder to make some investments there. My core beliefs may be very similar to yours...however that does not mean the people who do not think like me are wrong or on morally unsound ground, as you are implying in your 'judgements' on people who do take dual citizenship.
Its all relative . You hate me dont you
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You know you are a desi when ........ You spew forth the virtues of India, but don't want to live there...............You've never had a tanning salon membership
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Originally posted by Loser
Citizenship is like Marriage. You accept the good and the bad of your partner when you do the Sat Pherey.
Within acceptable(to both partners) limits.
e.g- physical abuse, infidelity(i.e: breaking of trust) etc.
You guys sound like some crazed clerics crying about an 'absolute' religion/god .
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