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Posted on: 11-06-15 07:32:38
I know talking on mobile is also prohibited in Canada during job.
Donot give general statements and confuse people.
I am writing this mail to refute this general statement.
In IT, No one cares. They are only concerend with the deadline. Even in medium IT offices they use Gtalk to communicate. You just put busy in it and do your personal errands. Desi's are the culprits. You will not get caught though fellow desi's are fully aware of yoru activities.
I used to work in a private office (in Canada) . I could speak on the mobile as well as use the internet. My boss was on the first floor and I was in the ground floor.. My boss also used internet. If you finish your work on time, no one is going to stop you from talking on the phone (personal or otherwise). In the 4 offices that I had worked in Canada, no one stopped me from using the internet or phone.
Of course, there are some places where you canot use it. You canot use it while you are doing shift duty (labour) nor can you use it when you are on TTC.
I had many people who used telephone / internet on the job like security guards (mostly night time) and Gas station attenedants.
Murali
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HW36 ,
You are highly disoriented / contradictory in your writings (and thoughts) ...
One the one hand you say that all men in India are like that (work shirkers and all ) and that's why they employ females ... I don't think you have come across the better quality of men in India who dominate high offices and salaries .. and perhaps spent your time with the pan chewing ones .
Then you say you are a graduate from xyz ... I wonder how would you generalize all men in India if you have worked in high positions ... You come across people of your own segment in work life.
Talking of qualifications , what makes you feel that you are super qualified and others are not ..Fyi ..TK might be better qualified than you are .
You are right ... people did hard work before and never capitalized on that ... but this statement suits you the best ... we don't know what you did 20 years back but your positing / thoughts and mannerisms on CD make us doubt your qualifications 
Madam nobody salutes the setting sun , everyone salutes the rising sun ... (proverb from India which you would have heard )... it matters less what you were but what matters is what you are today and the fact is that if you were to try your luck in Canadian job market , You would have a very hard time getting a decent job... and perhaps they would refuse to believe your alma mater also ...
And then you comment on others work culture ..... What a joke ??
Lastly --- you always cry that people are personally attacking you ... but do not spare a chance on taking a jibe or a pot shot at TK .You jibe @ him for food banks and kijiji but you are also a gold digger on kijiji & elsewhere yourself.. Best double standards one can exhibit...
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
Of course, there are some places where you canot use it. You canot use it while you are doing shift duty (labour) nor can you use it when you are on TTC.
The only work settings, where you are not allowed to use your cellphone or internet are the Call-Centres, Banks, and where the public dealing, either by phone or person is highly prevalent.
In an office setting, if it's a desk job, whether clerical, IT, Administration, or Managerial, apart from the fair usage policy (barring illegitimate sites and social network) I think you can browse the internet intermittently and as long as it doesn't hamper your deadlines and day to day tasks. Of-course, excess use is unwarranted and frawned upon too. Sometimes, offenders are given warnings and/or termination. In IT, the policy is not strictly enforced due to the nature of the work where you have to research in excess in order to find certain solutions. So, it's not uncommon in IT to see people of each strata browsing the internet - news, emails, maps, forums, etc. Applicable universally, whether be it India or Canada.
It's not a big problem now a days, when you have internet on phones and can type away while sipping the tea in the cafetaria or taking a break.
Don't be surprised, if you will see in a few decades that freedom to Internet would be included in the Charter of Rights and Freedom. Of-course, I am talking about the First World Countries.
So, chill. Noone should be concerned as to how much time others are spending over the Internet, or whether they might be using company's or their own personal time. As long as their own Managers are ok with it, why would you or I care?
Have fun!
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
Automotive technician, Car Salesmanship, Technical Trainer etc.... I'm open for all Auto-jobs. I don't mind travelling long distance either. Kuch toh mil jaaye
The question is how far are you willing to go in Canada :
1. Can you change your name from Markandey to Mark or from Samithurai to Sam?
2. Are you willing to fudge your resume (this is being probagated by Canadians themselves). They will ask you to lower your degree or fudge experience as per the job requirement. I may go one step ahead by asking you to put a (false) diploma from a Canadian college. I have done that myself.
3. Are you willing to put aside all your Indian practices and follow Canadian? Like eating with Fork and spoon, each chicken or soup only for lunch (of course only at office).
4. Are you willing to change your accent to Canadian?
5. Are you willing to shave your mush? Esp. if you are having balancing problem, you have to shave it off.
6. Are you willing to party with your collegues to move up the ladder?
The more your are flexible, the higher you can go.
Murali
Not true at all. Not a single word. I didn't do nothing of this, least of which following Canadian food habits; and have done alright so far. Still eat 'Roti-Daal, Sabzi' at work sitting together with my Western colleagues. It's their problem, not mine. I am in IT and waited for 2 years before I could land a decent IT job that I wanted. Until then, it was all a struggle in call-centres.
As long as you have a solid communication and presentation skills, perseverance to try something different if this and that doesn't work, train yourself a bit per Canadian standards despite of struggling hard, then I think you should do alright. If you are an Engineer, try starting out from Technician and/or Technologist and move up from there. I have seen few and they did pretty decent following this approach.
Please understand, India is a huge country with endless mom n pop Private colleges/institutions, but very few decent institutions (IITs, IIS, BITS, RECs, DCE, DU, etc.). Now, when the news reports of fake degrees reach offshore to the Western Countries, the brunt of it has to be faced by immigrants to a certain extent.
As long as one is willing to be a bit flexible (not what you professed above) in his/her approach, Network, and work smart (not hard) in achieving it, then Canada is not a bad place to be.
The problem is this:
1. Everyone wants to live in GTA, even if they have to struggle. The place has become strikingly crowded with the highly educated factory workers.
2. No effort in trying to find a relevant employment in other Provinces/cities, i.e. Nova Scotia, SK, Winnipeg, Victoria, Prince George, etc. Give yourself 2 years and you can still come back to GTA.
3. Becoming comfortable in a minimum wage factory job that also pays the overtime - as long as couple together are making $5000/month, they think it should suffice.
4. Relying too much upon the trusted circle of friends, and hence stick to one place without any efforts to move where the jobs are (read #2). Something like, "Arey mera sara friend circle peecchey chhoot jaayega." Heard the same words from my wife 3 years ago when the opportunity was knocking to move to GTA. Anyhow!
5. No backup plan to move back to India if things don't work out.
6. Sell all assets back in India before immigrating here - thus, burnt the bridges deliberately. Nothing to fall back upon and hence stuck.
7. Carrying whole family along, rather than one member who should first try to settle in before calling everyone in. This puts added pressure on the breadwinner to work, work, and work without upgrading their skills. Result? Stuck, with no time to upgrade.
8. Too much impatience by seeing big houses, cars of people that immigrated here a decade earlier. Thus, the cycle of factory and minimum jobs continues without putting an effort to give yourselves a bit of time for upgrade/professional training.
Immigrating to Canada is not a child's play. One has to start afresh - academically and financially. Also, if you're in late 40s or 50s, please don't even think about it.
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
Moderators,
I think it is time to lock this thread as mud slinging is going on. Too many personal vendatta (under assumptions).
At the cost of being abused, I think it is hightime that HW 36 is banned from CD.
Murali
HW36 is a great asset to CD .
Location: God's own country
Posted on: 12-06-15 00:15:28
Not true at all. Not a single word. I didn't do nothing of this
Your point is well taken but in the minds of Gora's it is firmly imbedded. Canadian Gora's are very shy to speak out.
Just read Redflagdeals Charcha page. I used to read it before. They confuse a lot between refugees and skilled immigrants. For them 99 % of people (Immigrants / refugees / temp) are refugees.
There have been very funny observations like many immigrants come to Canada because healthcare is free and can be exploited.
During my 9 years in Canada, I have experienced sutle discrimination. In my office, Gora's were treated by the rules (Overtime after 44 hrs., experience letter / portfolio after you quit). This was not given to Desi's.
I worked in a white's only office in Kitchener. I had told them that I was born here and that I had a dip. in Arch. from centennial. Their behaviour towards me was totally different. They treated me as one of theirs (though I really had a tough time to get their Kitchener accent and they spoke in very quite voice prompting me to always ask - pardon). In the same office, there was an office manager from Cuba. She did not know proper accent of ENglish. But since she was white and had a western look, she was well respected.
In the same city, I did one HR course from Connestogo college. In one instance, my professor told us to get into groups of 6 and do a Discussion. The other 5 would not even hear me. They totally ignored me and my views in the GD.
IT is different. In many IT companies, Desi's are a majority and the treatment is different. However, in many other small offices / labour camps / dealerships, the more you try to become 'Canadianized' the faster you will grow.
Murali
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Posted on: 12-06-15 08:44:52
First line of HW36 in the above is highly unwarrented.
Request HW36 / Moderators to please remove the sentence and also lock this thread, as we can expect mudslinging in the hours to come.
Murali
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