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Ash20   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-09-08 19:39:38

John Howard is not current (but former) prime minister of Australia. Current Prime minister (since Dec. 3, 2007) is Kevin Rudd.


Quote:
Originally posted by mumdxbcan

Read below, as I got this in email
(This is what Australian Prime Minister say)

I know few people will say block/closed this thread


Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.


Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'


'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'


'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'


'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'


'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'




mynameisraj   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-09-08 20:08:08

Whoever said those words ought to be commended. I concur 100%. Yes, we do need such leaders. Absolutely do. I really don't care about the religion in question but the position that has been taken.

If these words are made up, someone needs to really say it :)



jake3d   
Member since: Sep 03
Posts: 2962
Location: Montreal

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-09-08 21:19:07

Quote:
Originally posted by mumdxbcan

Wow! again IKNOWNOTHING

I am surprised you didn't request to block/closed this thread also.

See I am not obsessed with any religion
But I am PROUD of religion which I belongs to & nothing wrong with that

My concern is FEW people give impartial treatment to one particular religion called 'H' ( not writing name as again some one will take objection)



An old controversy given new wings. Like people have pointed out this happened way back during the old PMs tenure. I agree with some of the statments but i think religion should be kept out of the state, Christian or not.

And stop saying things like one religion is given impartial treatment. there's nothing of the sort. Christian right wingers say the same thing about christianity.

http://logosresourcepages.org/OurTimes/multiculturalism2.htm
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/10/2/102405.shtml
'The two most powerful molders of opinion in the nation, the media and Hollywood, are at the head of the line in the war on Christianity, frequently ridiculing and disparaging Christians in ways they would never dream of employing against any other group of Americans. '

Hindus say the samething
Muslims say the same thing
Jews say the same thing.
Every one seems to want to show how proud they are of their religion by playing victim.


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Iknownothing   
Member since: Jan 08
Posts: 429
Location: Ohio

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-09-08 22:33:10

Quote:


Hindus say the samething
Muslims say the same thing
Jews say the same thing.
Every one seems to want to show how proud they are of their religion by playing victim.



For once I would agree with you....



Nightmare   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-09-08 23:09:19

Quote:
Originally posted by Ash20

John Howard is not current (but former) prime minister of Australia. Current Prime minister (since Dec. 3, 2007) is Kevin Rudd.


Quote:
Originally posted by mumdxbcan

Read below, as I got this in email
(This is what Australian Prime Minister say)

I know few people will say block/closed this thread


Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.


Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'


'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'


'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'


'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'


'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'





Mr. Howard lost election perhaps because of this kind of bigotary.

Australia was never land of whites. They killed most of natives and converted the rest. There is enough material on the net documenting killing of Australian aboriginals. Again, Australia, like Canada NEEDS immigrants to run their economy.

As regards Hindu being discriminated, the reason is that they are not united and fight amongst themselves in India. Who respects weakklings in the world? Instead of complaining, they need to put their house in order. Some introspection is warranted before crying loud and complaining. Well, Mr. Howard or Bush can not change the world and make it the way they like it. History will prove that Muslims will be in bargaining position in next 25 years in Europe and many other countries (India included) and are bound to influence world politics in future, whether one likes it or not.



Iknownothing   
Member since: Jan 08
Posts: 429
Location: Ohio

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 25-09-08 23:20:25

Quote:
Originally posted by Nightmare

Quote:
Originally posted by Ash20

John Howard is not current (but former) prime minister of Australia. Current Prime minister (since Dec. 3, 2007) is Kevin Rudd.


Quote:
Originally posted by mumdxbcan

Read below, as I got this in email
(This is what Australian Prime Minister say)

I know few people will say block/closed this thread


Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.


Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.'


'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'


'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!'


'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'


'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'





Mr. Howard lost election perhaps because of this kind of bigotary.

Australia was never land of whites. They killed most of natives and converted the rest. There is enough material on the net documenting killing of Australian aboriginals. Again, Australia, like Canada NEEDS immigrants to run their economy.

As regards Hindu being discriminated, the reason is that they are not united and fight amongst themselves in India. Who respects weakklings in the world? Instead of complaining, they need to put their house in order. Some introspection is warranted before crying loud and complaining. Well, Mr. Howard or Bush can not change the world and make it the way they like it. History will prove that Muslims will be in bargaining position in next 25 years in Europe and many other countries (India included) and are bound to influence world politics in future, whether one likes it or not.



For the nth time...this didn't come through the Australian PM, click on the links provided by Viggy.

Moreover you have an entirely new theory of Hindus being discriminated......that is not whats being discussed here.



seenappa   
Member since: May 03
Posts: 254
Location: Brampton

Post ID: #PID Posted on: 26-09-08 03:11:28

Quote:
Originally posted by Nightmare

History will prove that Muslims will be in bargaining position in next 25 years in Europe and many other countries (India included) and are bound to influence world politics in future, whether one likes it or not.



Not very sure which crystal ball you are gazing into.
But, the way present events are taking place in the world...very few Muslims will be left in another 25 years are so.

For the nth time. NO. Obama is not a Muslim and neither does he consider himself a friend of one. (In regards to your 'influence in world politics').

In future, please provide credible sources for any blanket statements you wish to make.

seenappa



Contributors: Iknownothing(4) mumdxbcan(2) JRF(1) hchheda(1) Ash20(1) mynameisraj(1) jake3d(1) Nightmare(1) viggy(1) seenappa(1) febpreet(1)



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