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Originally posted by morning_rain
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Originally posted by web2000
You never speak out when ur honest govt misuses the tax payers money for its own use. Tax payers never get the service they pay for. How u will jusitfy that?
You feel shameful when common man (Mango people) misuse the system. Even on this forum u cannot admit (That costs u nothing) when I pin point the problem in the system.
I did not allude to the intentions of the federal government. Its also not technically correct that taxpayers do not get services they pay for. What services do you feel are missing ? I say this because on one hand there are numerous complaints about how high taxes are (and this is nothing new) yet on the other hand there are more expectations on the government to provide more.
Two wrongs dont make a right. A taxpayer (or 2 million) misusing the system doesnt make them smarter than the system and they shouldnt pat themselves on the back that they beat the system. What they have done is ensured that the costs continue to go up and essentially its disrespectful to your neighbors/fellow citizens that do pay their taxes and dont misuse programs because they understand the true intention is to help those less fortunate.
For many people it is a dog eat dog world, but as someone else mentioned on another thread - stop and think. What do you (or anyone) do on a regular basis to make the world a little better place for others?
What is ur opinions about the solution I gave in my previous post?
There is another experience I had when asked my local MP to certify my documents. he blindly refused it and told me to go to some other place. I believe that it is his duty and he is being paid from our tax money to serve us. It was just because he had no way to charge fee. On an average an MP makes approx $140,000 a year for doing nothing and don't want to sign a single document. It took me a week to get a person who agreed to do my job at reasonable cost. None of ur free service work for which I pay the tax. Politician here are worse than any other country. U don't have to pay bribe in every office but u pay more at one window and u never notice that.
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Location: British Columbia
Posted on: 03-11-09 11:14:24
Location: British Columbia
Posted on: 03-11-09 11:14:24
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Originally posted by web2000
What is ur opinions about the solution I gave in my previous post?
There is another experience I had when asked my local MP to certify my documents. he blindly refused it and told me to go to some other place. I believe that it is his duty and he is being paid from our tax money to serve us. It was just because he had no way to charge fee. On an average an MP makes approx $140,000 a year for doing nothing and don't want to sign a single document. It took me a week to get a person who agreed to do my job at reasonable cost. None of ur free service work for which I pay the tax. Politician here are worse than any other country. U don't have to pay bribe in every office but u pay more at one window and u never notice that.
I did not respond to your 'solution' because its overly simplistic and doesnt take into consideration various other factors that are involved in health care rather than just salary differentials.
I dont know if MP's can certify documents. My understanding is that only Notaries or lawyers/judges or other court professionals can. I dont think even a Commissioner of Oaths can do it. Im not certain.
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Originally posted by ILOVENA
I am amazed at the energy levels of TK. He won't stop ranting. But yes I must thank him for the entertainment value.
I will try to reply to these wild, & unreasonable rants. I am not sure I will succeed, given the fact that TK is unstoppable.
\"The CIC in New Delhi conducts interviews to see if we are fit for this country professionally but it never warns us that we will be discriminated based upon our colour, ethinicity, soft skills etc?\"
Have you heard of \"Caveat emptor \"? For the most part, it would mean \"buyer beware\" - mostly to the purchase of goods, but I have taken the liberty of extending the term to the service of immigration, provided by the Canadian Government.
How can the Government warn a prospective immigrant that \"we will be discriminated based upon our colour, ethinicity, soft skills etc?\".......... First of your feeling of discrimination may be nothing but sheer paranoia. And then, with due respect, when it comes to self assessment, most of us give ourselves more marks, than we actually deserve. That being said, this state could be more related to the mind, than reality.
Even assuming for a moment that this is true (even though I have never felt discriminated against in my many years here).......... that would be akin to a warning at the Delhi airport reading \"Rampant corruption here - beware, you must be willing to bribe each step of your way\".......... wouldn't that be funny?
Secondly, why should the Government \"welcome us here\" at the airport? I don't think you know, but time was, when persons of certain \"highly skilled categories\" were actually met at the airport by a government official , and even provided free accommodation at decent hotels, in the 60's. One of my relatives who is currently an expert in avionics was one among those who got such a red carpet welcome.
Today it is a question of numbers, and besides If we can take the risk of transition into an alien culture, why should we expect to be spoon fed?
This incessant rant about being a \"VISIBLE MINORITY\", discrimination, blah, blah, blah must stop, for heaven's sake........ Tk - you should take a hard look at how so called \"forward communities\" have been treated back home, in order to make way for \"minorities, scheduled caste and scheduled tribes\".
I would think it shameful to think that because I am a \"visible minority\", I should be treated with royalty. I find it ridiculous to expect the Government here to dictate terms to the private sector as to what qualifications to put in place, to hire a person............. this is not a dictatorship, the soviet republic or an eastern block country - even there I am not sure the Government did this either.
So my dear TK, stop ranting and start living! Read one positive thing each day, improve your skills, what ever your passion lies in (and please use spell check - it helps!). Chalk out a plan, and if you believe in the power beyond, ask Him for courage to change the changeable, and accept that you can't (and I am not referring to the \"discrimination\" you always write about, endlessly).
Fill the empty spaces in your mind with courage instead of terms like \"visible minorities, and aborigines\"........ Stop being paranoid , and yes if you believe that you feel unwanted here despite your best efforts, do something independently or go back home to where your heart might belong. It doesn't matter if you make millions, if your heart yearns for something it might call \"home\".
I know that the last thing you want is - being told that you could be wrong.......... but the fact is that all of us have frailties.......... don't we?
Looks like u belong to teaching community. You are not a practical man and talk about purely theoretical concepts.
TK, At least provides the stat. what is happening here and how the common people not getting there service for which they pay the tax. He talks about the reality and people are discriminated indirectly (Remember, by law u cannot do it directly so they follow other methods).
So if u cannot raise ur voice against the evil things here then better stop.
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Originally posted by ILOVENA
A lot of rants from TK & similar desis comes out of their misunderstanding of the term "qualifications". We in India, believe that we are "qualified" simply because we have the education.
Rather people confuse "education" for "qualification". In order to qualify, you either need to have the skills or experience or sometimes both. Just as an example - just because one has an MBA, doesn't make him "qualified to be a manager"...... To qualify as a manager, one needs skills such a s good people skills, time management, organization, and leadership skills. We from India believe that simply because we have the education, it makes us "qualified"..... It is high time we understood the difference.
About TK's rant about how under qualified "non visible minorities" who had just a 12th grade worked as car mechanics, earning $ 35 an hour. I don't understand why is to hard to understand that you pay your mechanic for his skills - and his being a 12th grade graduate has nothing to do with it.
On the flip-side, you could have a degree in avionics, but you don't qualify as a mechanic if you can't tell the difference between a 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder car. How hard is this, to understand?
Given that an automobile mechanic makes $ 35 an hour, TK could become one, instead of this ranting incessantly!
Don't try to teach the difference between education and qualification. I have seen lot of documentaries here where the well qualified engineers/doctors (Not only education but they had years of experience in their respective fields) were indirectly forced to do odd jobs. I remember that in one of the documentaries they showed that a well qualified surgeon (Came from South Africa and had done eye surgery for 15 years) was put in so much trouble that he finally left the country (Unfortunately he belonged to VM)
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Originally posted by morning_rain
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Originally posted by web2000
What is ur opinions about the solution I gave in my previous post?
There is another experience I had when asked my local MP to certify my documents. he blindly refused it and told me to go to some other place. I believe that it is his duty and he is being paid from our tax money to serve us. It was just because he had no way to charge fee. On an average an MP makes approx $140,000 a year for doing nothing and don't want to sign a single document. It took me a week to get a person who agreed to do my job at reasonable cost. None of ur free service work for which I pay the tax. Politician here are worse than any other country. U don't have to pay bribe in every office but u pay more at one window and u never notice that.
I did not respond to your 'solution' because its overly simplistic and doesnt take into consideration various other factors that are involved in health care rather than just salary differentials.
I dont know if MP's can certify documents. My understanding is that only Notaries or lawyers/judges or other court professionals can. I dont think even a Commissioner of Oaths can do it. Im not certain.
Well, The list of people who can cerify the documents included MP,Oath commissioner. I followed the instructions written in the application kit and MP was eligible to do that. So don't try to escape now and better justify my situation.
Wed 2000 - now you are getting personal. None of what I wrote was intended for you but if you want to get into a slanging match, I have neither the time nor the intention to respond to your lowly comments.
You say I am not a practical person. You probably don't know that I have reached where I am, through sheer perseverance, focus, and determination. You will probably never understand what this means.
As for your being practical, this country is too bad, too corrupt, too backward to be reformed by people like you. I understand your zeal (should I say gripe, gripe gripe?).......... but you won't get far with reforming this country. "We do need more like you", for sure!
On the other hand, why don't you head home and do "seva" for the motherland. That would be better than complaining. One small consolation - there are others who fervently share your belief that "everything about this country is rotten".......... yet they live here (like you said, because "you pay taxes"
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I am glad the federal government has woken up, At least at this time they will allow only those who qualify in the 38 categories they have chosen. For some time, there will be lesser gripers!............ but yes, you can continue your crusade.
Honestly, I feel sorry for your misery.
At the expense of being accused of promoting censorship, I should say this:
As much as we love our freedom of expression, I find that a certain group uses this forum to do nothing but incessantly complain. I adore the moderators here, who bear the pain of getting to hear the same thing, day after day.......... None of the gripers have any practical solutions to the so called "ills in Canadian society".
I only wish we used this forum to help each other rather than engage in a fight that leads us nowhere. As moderators, I am sure you can limit the number of messages on a particular topic.
My two cents.
