Planning to go to canada after 12th


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pokiri   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-08-10 13:31:30

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Originally posted by a3venom

3. Diploma courses.
One of my friend came from New Zealand this week and told me bout these diploma courses. He did a one year diploma in Accountancy and now he's got a job that pays him $40,000 per annum. Are similar programs available in Canada?




First of all, why do you want to settle for a Diploma when you can study further and became a true professional. In IT, 40K p.a doesn't sounds like a decent amount. Normally good IT consultants make around 100K. With a diploma, You start with 40K and stay there forever. You wont get 30% hike every year like in India.

If you already decided to come here, You will try it anyway and good luck. My suggestion will be doing masters abroad but not Diplomas. Its difficult to convince at your age. I advised this to my colleague's son here in Canada and to my cousin in India. Both want to have their job immediately after their +2 and they did it.



a3venom   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-08-10 13:40:20

Isn't it possible to get admission into a degree program on the basis of your diploma?



febpreet   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-08-10 14:13:14

Hi a3venom,

Here's my take on this. Others might have a different viewpoint, but this is my opinion and guidance to you based upon what I have seen during my 5.5 years here in Canada. Honestly, noone can predit future and can easily tell you how things going to be in the next 4 years, and neither can I.

Note: Hope you would find my long post tolerable :).

1. Education:

I believe if you get admission to the bachelor's level IT program in a good and top rung university here (e.g. Toronto, British Columbia, McGill, etc.) then your chances of success are relatively high. Especially if you compare with the other immigrants who acquired degrees from foreign universities. Considering you will be studying hard and have a good command over your core specialization coupled with IT certifications. Yes, slump is there and I can't deny outsourcing, but there are jobs in IT. They were there 5 years ago and they exist now as well. I don't think any country can outsource the whole industry, esp. IT. The advantage that you will have over other skill based immigrant are: Co-op Canadian experience, Campus placement, new Graduate hirings by companies like Rogers, RIM (Blackberry), and couple of other.

Mainly, Oracle, Datawarehousing, Project Management, Business Analysis, Microsoft technologies are in Demand on the Software side. Networking/Datacentre is another field that requires a good command over the subject to find employment. For your friend in Accounting, go for either CMA or CGA. Sorry, I don't have much Accounting experience so can't elaborate for the same.

2. On Campus employment: Someone mentioned you can't work while studying. As far as my knowledge goes, you CAN for a certain no. of hours. You need to review the particular university website for more info on 'on-campus employment'.

3. Music interests: Canada, because of it's large Indo-Canadian population is showing much interest than ever before to the Fusion music. If the quality of your music (hip hop + Punjabi + Hindi) is good, mixed with the better product placement, marketing, etc. then country notwithstanding, it will succeed. You have to go out there. I am not saying all musicians succeed here, thus to provide you a conflicting info, but it depands upon you and you alone. Noone can predict what you have to offer. You got to ask yourself.

4. Salaries for IT professional: If you have a core technologies' command then yes, you can earn starting salary of $40,000 (not unusual). If you're below average then you might have troubles finding jobs. Again, depands upon you and the skills you possess. IT and Finance are two fields that fare better than other industries.

5. Comparison with India: India with growing economy and more outsourcing on it's way should definitely be a better choice. IT salaries are going over the roof than ever before. Any Tom, Dick, Harry (IT Prof.) who knows how to move a mouse could land a minimum $40,000 job these days. May be I am wrong but this is what I have seen in my friend circle. But, if you're worried about the state of affairs in India, vis-a-vis Infrastructure, Curruption, Cleanliness, then my dear friend Canada is for you.

The bottom line is what I stated earlier, no-one can predict future. Canada is no different than any other country on this planet. You work hard, you reap the fruits, simple. Nothing comes free, and especially when you migrate get ready to make sacrifices, more than double hard work, and local competition.

The rest is upto you, and solely your decision commands your life.



a3venom   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-08-10 14:36:25

Thanks a lot for taking out the time to respond.
Respect!:) :)

Actually , i saw an employment profile - http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/eng/document/serials/eprofile07-08/profile08.pdf

This states that around 60-70% of the graduates from Diploma programs in Ontario Colleges get satisfactory employment.

Is this information reliable?



a3venom   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-08-10 14:54:34

I know it may sound stupid, but this is my perfect idea (till now , subject to change ) of what I'm gonna do -
Get a diploma ( 2 years ) in my field of interest - That makes me eligible for a post grad work permit.
Try and get a job on the basis of that diploma.
Work hard and save money for an year - Apply for PR.

If i get PR , I continue education in the form of a degree and do my MBA later on.

Get a better job , get settled.


I know most of this is too perfect , but this is just an "IDEAL" case for me.



a3venom   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-08-10 14:59:21

When i compare with what i can do with my current situation in India, it's a lot better.
In India it's kind of impossible to get into a "reputed" B. Tech college without 2 years of hard hard hard hard book-worm type study.
It's like 5 months left for my boards [CBSE XII] and that's what I'm preparing for.

With my current preparation of competitive examinations [ IITJEE, AIEEE n all], I'm sure to end up with a salary of 15-20k INR per mo, which is way below the 40k CAD per annum figure.



a3venom   
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Post ID: #PID Posted on: 31-08-10 15:12:02

Thanks for your input.
So, based on the hard work i put in, do i stand a fair chance of that "40K" employment after completing my Diploma?



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