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Location: Western Hemisphere
Posted on: 21-05-10 09:38:39
Location: Western Hemisphere
Posted on: 21-05-10 09:38:39
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Originally posted by ljlijash
Come on guys, instead of debating , let's do a reality check !! Answer frankly !!
How many of you here can say that you are where you started(financially and mentally) after you came to Canada??
How many of you can say that I would have been better off in my homeland ??
Let's see the outcome of these questions !!
I agree with imwhoever. It's not a straightforward response. I can claim that I am better off where I am today (in N.A). But, I have no comparison because I've never lived my adult life (beyond bachelor's degree) in India. N.A is my home. As a family, we have built ourselves an above average financial foundation to keep us going for our child's education and our retirement.
Mentally? Maybe this is more applicable for those who are eternally unhappy about everything here other than, perhaps, the currency of their income.
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Dimple2001
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Originally posted by dimple2001
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Originally posted by ljlijash
Come on guys, instead of debating , let's do a reality check !! Answer frankly !!
How many of you here can say that you are where you started(financially and mentally) after you came to Canada??
How many of you can say that I would have been better off in my homeland ??
Let's see the outcome of these questions !!
I agree with imwhoever. It's not a straightforward response. I can claim that I am better off where I am today (in N.A). But, I have no comparison because I've never lived my adult life (beyond bachelor's degree) in India. N.A is my home. As a family, we have built ourselves an above average financial foundation to keep us going for our child's education and our retirement.
Mentally? Maybe this is more applicable for those who are eternally unhappy about everything here other than, perhaps, the currency of their income.
Agreed, many of you haven't experienced the so called "India shining" factor.... But come on , just for the sake of it , leave aside all your worries, and consider only the financial aspect of settling in canada and answer the question... Take it in the right way and more of fun rather than a serious matter !
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Originally posted by ljlijash
Agreed, many of you haven't experienced the so called "India shining" factor.... But come on , just for the sake of it , leave aside all your worries, and consider only the financial aspect of settling in canada and answer the question... Take it in the right way and more of fun rather than a serious matter !
My God, so much negativity/pessimism in some of the posts. And it always feel members of this forum are moving in circles. New members will post the same query that has been posted by other members in past, and same discussion will start again - Canada v/s India
For OP mentioning about doing odd jobs to survive, see posting by guy called "aditya2007". See his enthusiasm before coming to Canada and how frustrated he feels in just one month after arrival in Canada.
Second, based on my own experience, it is easy to say that I am ready to do anything, but after having lived a comfortable life in India, to pick up a broom or to work as a labourer in a factory with a boss who is less talented you needs a different mindset. And it is a rude shock.
Second, not every immigrant in Canada feels stuck or feels that he/she is too old to go back to India and start afresh. There are many who enjoy their life here. Many who have found successful career, making a comfortable living and enjoying their life in their country of residence.
And why only financial aspect to be considered while immigrating? What about quality of life? Agreed that if you are not in a well paying job, you will be unhappy with life, but once you find a good paying job, things do change for you.
How about freedom of speech, thought and information? How about the fact that media censorship is minimal? How about the fact that your councillors/MPP/MP are easily accessible compared to India? The infrastructure is well maintained, corruption level is minimal. You don't have to stand in long line while dealing with government - most services are online.
Ever been to any tourist spot in India and seen number of hawkers there? You will never see that nuisance in Canada - not to mention tourist friendly cities with readily available information. Being a tourist in Indian cities can be a nightmare.
And Gopalpai - why do you consider gays/lesbians as your enemies? Ontario's ex- health minister, who might be a mayor of Toronto in near future is gay. Glen Murray, ex-mayor of Winnipeg and currently an MPP for downtown Toronto riding is gay. Federal transport minister John Baird is gay. And if I am not wrong, one of the minister in McGuinty government is lesbian. Do you think all these people are evil? So are writer Irshaad Manji and NDP politicain Farouqe Al-Khaki.
In nutshell, life is not a bed of roses anywhere you go. Struggle is a reality of life, in one form or another.
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Originally posted by meghal
Quote:
Originally posted by ljlijash
Agreed, many of you haven't experienced the so called "India shining" factor.... But come on , just for the sake of it , leave aside all your worries, and consider only the financial aspect of settling in canada and answer the question... Take it in the right way and more of fun rather than a serious matter !
My God, so much negativity/pessimism in some of the posts. And it always feel members of this forum are moving in circles. New members will post the same query that has been posted by other members in past, and same discussion will start again - Canada v/s India
For OP mentioning about doing odd jobs to survive, see posting by guy called "aditya2007". See his enthusiasm before coming to Canada and how frustrated he feels in just one month after arrival in Canada.
Second, based on my own experience, it is easy to say that I am ready to do anything, but after having lived a comfortable life in India, to pick up a broom or to work as a labourer in a factory with a boss who is less talented you needs a different mindset. And it is a rude shock.
Second, not every immigrant in Canada feels stuck or feels that he/she is too old to go back to India and start afresh. There are many who enjoy their life here. Many who have found successful career, making a comfortable living and enjoying their life in their country of residence.
And why only financial aspect to be considered while immigrating? What about quality of life? Agreed that if you are not in a well paying job, you will be unhappy with life, but once you find a good paying job, things do change for you.
How about freedom of speech, thought and information? How about the fact that media censorship is minimal? How about the fact that your councillors/MPP/MP are easily accessible compared to India? The infrastructure is well maintained, corruption level is minimal. You don't have to stand in long line while dealing with government - most services are online.
Ever been to any tourist spot in India and seen number of hawkers there? You will never see that nuisance in Canada - not to mention tourist friendly cities with readily available information. Being a tourist in Indian cities can be a nightmare.
And Gopalpai - why do you consider gays/lesbians as your enemies? Ontario's ex- health minister, who might be a mayor of Toronto in near future is gay. Glen Murray, ex-mayor of Winnipeg and currently an MPP for downtown Toronto riding is gay. Federal transport minister John Baird is gay. And if I am not wrong, one of the minister in McGuinty government is lesbian. Do you think all these people are evil? So are writer Irshaad Manji and NDP politicain Farouqe Al-Khaki.
In nutshell, life is not a bed of roses anywhere you go. Struggle is a reality of life, in one form or another.
AGREED TO EACH AND EVERY POINT U SAID !!!!! Wow good post
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Location: God's own country
Posted on: 21-05-10 15:22:53
Location: God's own country
Posted on: 21-05-10 15:22:53
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Originally posted by ljlijash
Come on guys, instead of debating , let's do a reality check !! Answer frankly !! How many of you here can say that you are where you started(financially and mentally) after you came to Canada??
How many of you can say that I would have been better off in my homeland ??
Let's see the outcome of these questions !!
This is exactly what we are all warning you about!
Canada is not for money (in most cases). Similar to what meghal said, it is about the finer things in life like seeing white skinned people, cold, nature, talking to people who speak NA english, Waiting for 12 hours in the emergency for the doctor see your sprained toe, bribe being limited to a case of beer, spending most on your income on essential stuff in life, tutoring your child as the school education is not enough, saving up to visit India etc..
In reality, Canada was good when compared to the year 2000 Indian salary. But from that time, Indian salary and quality of life has gone up umteen times while in NA it has declined. As a reality check, My last salary was $ 16 an hour and my class mate earns Rs 2.5 lakhs / months (taxable) in a housing company in Hyderabad. The least earning in my batch is earning around Rs 60,000 a month (and that is b'cos he did not care to work in the last 10 years).
Job is God here, but then it depends on your skill/ luck / education to get the correct one.
However, I would be lying if I say that Canada does not offer a good quality of life but to enjoy that you need atleast $70,000 to $ 90,000 annual income here and you have to research if you can get that. (it depends on your lifestyle too. But then you being in IT will need atleast $ 90K annual income to get that same life style).
Peace by TK
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Location: Western Hemisphere
Posted on: 21-05-10 15:36:24
Location: Western Hemisphere
Posted on: 21-05-10 15:36:24
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
it is about the finer things in life like seeing white skinned people,
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Dimple2001
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Originally posted by dimple2001
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Originally posted by tamilkuravan
it is about the finer things in life like seeing white skinned people,
Luckily for me I have been using Fair and Lovely for the past 5 years so all I have to do is look in the mirror. Even the white skinned people say that looking at me is one of the finer things in life they aspire to.....
But to return to the original topic, immigrating is a personal decision...no one can tell you whether it is a good decision or not. People on this board are probably skewed against it with the ratio being about 70% against, 30% for. If you are immigrating the factors which are in favour are
1) You are single with no responsibilities or at least with no kids.
2) You are below 30 yrs of age
3) You have good transferable skills
4) You have the ability to network and adapt
5) You have excellent verbal and written communication in English
6) You are mentally tough and have a good backup plan in case all your efforts do not bear fruit.
There are intangibles such as luck also involved.
So keep all these factors in mind when immigrating.
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