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Do you pray to a god or bully?




rahul_singh23
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Religion and selling God is a multi billion $ industry. People do not mind to donate money to temple, gurdwara or church but they have no money to buy a burger for hungry person.
The most funny thing specially in India is doing service in temple or gurdwara but have 2-3 kaam wali at home. Why not send kaam wali to temple or gurdwara on your behalf as you are paying for the service?


 
Post ID: 234416 29-03-17 14:24:12
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febpreet
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Originally posted by rahul_singh23

Religion and selling God is a multi billion $ industry. People do not mind to donate money to temple, gurdwara or church but they have no money to buy a burger for hungry person.
The most funny thing specially in India is doing service in temple or gurdwara but have 2-3 kaam wali at home. Why not send kaam wali to temple or gurdwara on your behalf as you are paying for the service?



I was just discussing about it yesterday with my mom. These places of worship have been amassing billions of Dollars/Rupees, but I rarely see any School/Hospital/College/Vocational Institution for poor within their vast premises. Some do, but just a namesake and minuscule. With the scale of money they have, why don't they open these institutions for poor and needy? But, no they will keep replacing the already decorated walls year after year. This clearly is a scam, and all our families duly participate in one.


 
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Post ID: 234418 29-03-17 16:57:27
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JRF
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Yeah man, I should have realized decades back. I should've religiously worked on becoming some religious hancho and enjoyed all the luxuries and fun of life.. in place of pursuing this damned IT and become a drone like now.
Salah, bahut dher hogaya abi.
Any idea, how to start ? clues are welcome.. Jealousy of all the fun these guys enjoy.. while screwing around everything possible in their way.

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Originally posted by febpreet

the organized religion (all of them) is the biggest scam that humanity ever created.





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Post ID: 234419 29-03-17 17:37:55
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febpreet
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Any idea, how to start ? clues are welcome..



I have some clues. Let me try...

1. Pick any religion - the most familiar to you would be better.
2. Read some religious books - not necessarily be a Ph.D. There is a self-help section in your local library or at best, Chapters/Indigo.
3. Buy a good quality gown or robe. Try Amazon, or Google:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=robe&oq=robe&aqs=chrome..69i57.815j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=religious+robe&*
4. Try visiting some places of worship and get in contact with the Head Honcho.
5. Contact TV channels for the the 'Religion Hour', start with local ones then you can Graduate to International.
6. Enjoy the fruits (Followers, money, fame, free travel, Mercedez/BMW, and paid for life to eternity...).

It's not that difficult. All you need is the determination.

Oh! Sorry, I forgot. Once you establish yourself, don't forget to spew some bigoted and hateful statements against other Religious outfits that you don't belong to. This is an utmost MUST.

All the very best.


 
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Post ID: 234420 29-03-17 17:49:42
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Full House
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These guys were there at the right place at the right time. They created a vision. Then a very nice scenery and put them in there, one by one, like current day virtual reality. They did not have any eye piece or a movie to watch, if they did then they all would have jumped into it. It was done in a very slow fashion, just one by one, but it was brutal. Pray, they might have, but begged for mercy. But it was pure slaughter.

And you don't want to be there and be the next one to do it for the rest of them. If I were you, I will keep a good distance from them. As far away as possible from these scammers. And if you want to know..

They all will get behind the better things in life that everyone here enjoys, Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech and just when you think that you got them, they will go and hide behind their own pet rock and just burrow themselves under it. All you see is a pile of S*it where they went.

We will see much more than what we have ever seen. Hope it is not where we all live and it is some where else. I don't wish it on anyone either.

So, don't go there, if at all you can, keep away from it.

You are a good man McGee.

FH.


 
Post ID: 234422 29-03-17 23:49:20
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san-hugo
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Yepp, thats the right message - 'stay away from it' else you get sucked into it without you know. Once there, You will start to justify it, first to yourself , time and again and then to others. You will call it soothing, soulful, profound, and blissful. You will crave that others join you. Be like you. To an outsider or one from other religion you will look stupid but you will neither know nor will bother because of your beliefs.... and faith. You will do it every day in the morning , at times in the evening, some times 5 times a day thinking that is supreme-st thing to do. You will fold hands, bend, walk bare feet. you will ask your kids to go for it so that they get sucked and then you watch them doing it , feeling proud, feeling better with immense satisfaction. They will not look stupid to you unlike to others from different religions. But not to care because we are us they are them. We belong to better one , they got bad deal though internally you are'nt so sure. but what the heck lets do it anyway , it does no harm , what if it is true then?. better to do it. if not my body, my soul will go to heaven. I 'll see my kids from 'up' there like my whole tree is doing right now , watching me from up there who inturn are being watched from upper layer , so on and so forth and saying to you as you read this post that 'beta yeh sab mat parra karo, iska kya hai likkhta rehta adharmi hai narak main jayega'. you stay course..

Exactly , BS is the word.







 
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Post ID: 234423 30-03-17 00:39:16
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febpreet
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Quote:
Originally posted by san-hugo

Yepp, thats the right message - 'stay away from it' else you get sucked into it without you know. Once there, You will start to justify it, first to yourself , time and again and then to others. You will call it soothing, soulful, profound, and blissful. You will crave that others join you. Be like you. To an outsider or one from other religion you will look stupid but you will neither know nor will bother because of your beliefs.... and faith. You will do it every day in the morning , at times in the evening, some times 5 times a day thinking that is supreme-st thing to do. You will fold hands, bend, walk bare feet. you will ask your kids to go for it so that they get sucked and then you watch them doing it , feeling proud, feeling better with immense satisfaction. They will not look stupid to you unlike to others from different religions. But not to care because we are us they are them. We belong to better one , they got bad deal though internally you are'nt so sure. but what the heck lets do it anyway , it does no harm , what if it is true then?. better to do it. if not my body, my soul will go to heaven. I 'll see my kids from 'up' there like my whole tree is doing right now , watching me from up there who inturn are being watched from upper layer , so on and so forth and saying to you as you read this post that 'beta yeh sab mat parra karo, iska kya hai likkhta rehta adharmi hai narak main jayega'. you stay course..

Exactly , BS is the word.



Spot on! The last one with 'BS' hit the nail.


 
Post ID: 234429 30-03-17 12:27:41
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JRF
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Hahaha I laughed incessantly for 5-6 minutes..


Quote:
Originally posted by san-hugo

Yepp, thats the right message - 'stay away from it' else you get sucked into it without you know. Once there, You will start to justify it, first to yourself , time and again and then to others. You will call it soothing, soulful, profound, and blissful. You will crave that others join you. Be like you. To an outsider or one from other religion you will look stupid but you will neither know nor will bother because of your beliefs.... and faith. You will do it every day in the morning , at times in the evening, some times 5 times a day thinking that is supreme-st thing to do. You will fold hands, bend, walk bare feet. you will ask your kids to go for it so that they get sucked and then you watch them doing it , feeling proud, feeling better with immense satisfaction. They will not look stupid to you unlike to others from different religions. But not to care because we are us they are them. We belong to better one , they got bad deal though internally you are'nt so sure. but what the heck lets do it anyway , it does no harm , what if it is true then?. better to do it. if not my body, my soul will go to heaven. I 'll see my kids from 'up' there like my whole tree is doing right now , watching me from up there who inturn are being watched from upper layer , so on and so forth and saying to you as you read this post that 'beta yeh sab mat parra karo, iska kya hai likkhta rehta adharmi hai narak main jayega'. you stay course..

Exactly , BS is the word.




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The cowards never started,
The weak died on the way,
Only the strong arrived.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yK1i9cLAMM

 
Post ID: 234432 30-03-17 13:18:55
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gktaurus
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Quote:
Originally posted by febpreet

Quote:
Originally posted by JRF


Any idea, how to start ? clues are welcome..



I have some clues. Let me try...

1. Pick any religion - the most familiar to you would be better.
2. Read some religious books - not necessarily be a Ph.D. There is a self-help section in your local library or at best, Chapters/Indigo.
3. Buy a good quality gown or robe. Try Amazon, or Google:
https://www.google.ca/search?q=robe&oq=robe&aqs=chrome..69i57.815j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=religious+robe&*
4. Try visiting some places of worship and get in contact with the Head Honcho.
5. Contact TV channels for the the 'Religion Hour', start with local ones then you can Graduate to International.
6. Enjoy the fruits (Followers, money, fame, free travel, Mercedez/BMW, and paid for life to eternity...).

It's not that difficult. All you need is the determination.

Oh! Sorry, I forgot. Once you establish yourself, don't forget to spew some bigoted and hateful statements against other Religious outfits that you don't belong to. This is an utmost MUST.

All the very best.



Well, this is a business like any other and should be treated as a service provided. You dont ask the same to a doctor who also provides a service and ask them to build schools, or help the poor. Going by the same logic, not sure why these so called spiritual leaders are expected to do the same and feel guilty of using the wealth they earn. Nobody is forcing people to go to these leaders and pay them their hard earned money.

I honestly believe people are not fools to simply give away their money. They get something in return, whatever that is and there is a price for everything. It is not that easy to become a spiritual leader also. These guys have some amazing charisma in them and simply making use of their talent to earn money and followers.

As long as these leaders do not influence people to harm others in the name of religion which then becomes a legal issue, I have no issues them earning their money and enjoying as well. If you dont believe them, then dont follow, as simple as that.



 
Post ID: 234434 30-03-17 16:57:53
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hchheda
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I share a similar opinion. They wouldn't be rich and powerful without mango people supporting them. Initially I assumed it must be the weak and illetrate who indulge, but I see there are many well settled and educated individuals who follow them even in the western countries. So naturally what ever tonic they are serving should be really appealing.

We do have to understand that there is a difference between being religious and being fanatic. Being religious makes us morally responsible for our actions and it is intended for self satisfaction only. It is when power and greed enter that the fanatism for territory, size of followers and fight for social systems conforming to the religious beliefs start. Extreme interpretation of specific hadeths of religious scriptures are cited out of context to further one's agenda. A prayer is personal, harmless and has soothing effect. It gives us strength to overcome the momentary difficulties we are facing. It's helps in giving strength to our near and dear ones in their difficult times. A sermon/satsang/lecture goes beyond and could be used to influence a larger group. It could be used for greater good or misused for personal gains and agenda.


Before passing judgement let's step back and also look at the platform delivering the news. With the access to wider audience, ownership of media and in turn the content that gets distributed is extremely tinted. Depending on the geographical location and the prevalent media there, the narrative changes from one extreme to another. So if we have very strong emotions in a particular subject, assume we have been owned and the media owner has achieved it's objective.

Peace to all.
Hiren


 
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